New Triumph Trophy.....

[pushr0d]

MCN Editor Marc Potter posted on today's news:

Just when you thought we couldn't uncover any more new bikes this year, we go and find the brand new Triumph Trophy - a bike that's not only massively important for the Hinckley firm but also a historical landmark.

It's 20 years since the reborn factory's original Trophy rolled off the production line and even though the four-cylinder 1200 wasn't exactly cutting edge, it was solid, durable and performed better than it had any right to.

From what we can see of the new Trophy, it's designed to once again go head-to-head with the Germans, closely aping the looks of BMW's R1200RT.

With shaft drive, a wide protective fairing and that glorious three-cylinder engine, it should be very, very close.

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[sammyseaman]

 

[crispiegee1]

It's 20 years since the reborn factory's original Trophy rolled off the production line and even though the four-cylinder 1200 wasn't exactly cutting edge, it was solid, durable and performed better than it had any right to.

I never understand why magazine writers like to say things like "performed better than it had any right to." What does that mean? It sounds like a worthless rhetorical flourish. (To say it's a flourish is to give it too much credit.)  And what "rights" do engines have?

From what we can see of the new Trophy, it's designed to once again go head-to-head with the Germans, closely aping the looks of BMW's R1200RT.

With shaft drive, a wide protective fairing and that glorious three-cylinder engine, it should be very, very close.

I like the sound of that. It is typical of motorcycle companies to one-up each other - if Yamaha has 145 hp, Kawasaki must come out with a bike that has ten or fifteen more.  But to me, if you offer 90% of a premium bike for 70% of the cost, I consider that a better value.

So in other words, if they came out with a Trophy that is several thousand less than an equivalent BMW, it wouldn't matter that it doesn't have quite the total horsepower output or a few less standard features.

[Bowtie76]

I never understand why magazine writers like to say things like "performed better than it had any right to." What does that mean? It sounds like a worthless rhetorical flourish. (To say it's a flourish is to give it too much credit.)  And what "rights" do engines have?



I like the sound of that. It is typical of motorcycle companies to one-up each other - if Yamaha has 145 hp, Kawasaki must come out with a bike that has ten or fifteen more.  But to me, if you offer 90% of a premium bike for 70% of the cost, I consider that a better value.

So in other words, if they came out with a Trophy that is several thousand less than an equivalent BMW, it wouldn't matter that it doesn't have quite the total horsepower output or a few less standard features.

Kawasaki did that.  It was called the Connie (C10)

[crispiegee1]

Kawasaki did that.  It was called the Connie (C10)

I differ only in that the Connie 10 had REALLY old technology. But on the other hand, it worked acceptably, if you could put up with the lousy fuel mileage. Same thing with the KLR... really outdated technology, but as dependable as a shovel.

To me, Triumph counters BMW with bikes that are fully modern (unlike the Kwak examples above), but simply a couple features shy of the "premium" designation. It keeps the bike within reach of those of us who have budgets (or want to have enough left over to buy more bikes and gear).

[Bowtie76]

To me, Triumph counters BMW with bikes that are fully modern (unlike the Kwak examples above), but simply a couple features shy of the "premium" designation. It keeps the bike within reach of those of us who have budgets (or want to have enough left over to buy more bikes and gear).

My Sprint and I agree whole heartedly, But I'll allways have a soft spot in my heart for my old Connie  

[sammyseaman]

My Sprint and I agree whole heartedly, But I'll allways have a soft spot in my heart for my old Connie  

It's actually damage from the vibration of your old connie  

[desert_rider]

It's actually damage from the vibration of your old connie  

     

[Rincewind]

What a surprise from Triumph!  

Pics make it look like a BMW K1300GT - I would have mistaken it for one!



Pics at http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/November/nov1710-triumph-trophy-spy-shots/
and http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/November/nov1710-i-rode-the-first-trophy/

Triumph Trophy is back - 'I rode the first one'

By Phil West -

New bikes

 17 November 2010 12:02

The Triumph Trophy is back - see spy pictures and read the full story in this week's MCN.

With Triumph’s recent success dominated by Speed and Street Triples and big tourers being absent from its range since 2003, it’s easy to forget how significant the Trophy is to the Hinckley marque.

When Triumph relaunched 20 years ago its first bike wasn’t a Daytona or a Tiger or even a Trident (although two of those three were to follow very shortly after) – it was with the 1200 Trophy. I should know. I was the first journo to ride it.

In fact the word ‘significant’ doesn’t say the half of it. That first ride simply HAD to prove the new Triumph concern’s credibility.

The 1200 Trophy did just that – and more in fact. Over the subsequent, formative Hinckley years, the big tourer, both in 900 triple and 1200 four guises, and including one significant facelift in 1995, went onto to become one of the longest lived of the original Hinckley machines (only finally going out of production in 2003) and a vital steady seller.

Back then the Trophy certainly wasn’t cutting edge. But its solid, durable engineering, credible performance and contemporary (if conservative) style and spec were revolutionary enough at a time when British motorcycles were either jokes or classics or both.

The Trophy set Hinckley, literally, on its way. It’s return now looks set to take the firm into new territory yet again.

[marc11]

Wow I like what I see so far.  More and more, everyday my next bike seems to be getting closer and closer to being a Triumph.

[Yankee Dog]

I sure enjoyed my 02 Trophy, but I dont think I can wait until they finally get around to releasing a new one. Besides, I am fearful, it will be a bit portly, with all the "required" accoutrements motorcycles seems to need these days. I think I will keep my sights on the GT.  

yankee Dog

[pushr0d]

Mark my words...

I say that the Sprint GT was made 'bigger' than the ST to clear the market for a new 'Daytona' liter-class bike.  The new bike will use a de-stroked version of the mill in this new Trophy, and will probably be a screamer.

I predict the new Daytona will be the next 'spyshot' we see.  I'm guessing six months.

It seems they'd want to come up with another name.  Having two bikes with the same name is a bit confusing, eh?

[ScottB]

What, like the Tiger, the Tiger and the Tiger?  

[Rincewind]

Looks like the new Sprint GT hardcases were co-developed with this bike in mind.  Maybe the exhaust as well.

Some weird-ass risers on this test bike.

pushr0d - I hope you're right about a new liter-size Daytona.  

[marc11]

Those risers look adjustable.  Take the top spacer above the bar out and put it under the bars and the bars are higher, use different sized spacers in different configs and have different bar heights.  Or it could just be like the Ducati ST4 was, loosen some lock screws, slide the bars up or down on the shafts and tighten at the new height.  It that is what it looks like, that is freaking brilliant.

Footpegs look like that have some sort of adjustment plates on them too.  Both of these things could be just for development reasons to find the ideal heights for production, but man, if they were adjustable like that....

[pushr0d]

I'm thinking they're using the 'infinitely adjustable' risers to tweak the location of the production bikes' bars.

They may do the same thing with the pegs and levers.

Get the tall guy and the short guy and have them take the bike out and see how it fits...

[Yankee Dog]

yeah, I suppose actualy "selling" something to John Q. that could be adjusted to fit most anyone would make too much sense.  

Yankee Dog

[ANZAC]

More good news from Triumph  

Everyone has been waiting for this bike and I am sure Triumph will make it a winner.

[GRN]

Hmmm... liked my Sprint ST a lot, and the GT is at the top of the short list... new Trophy sounds good too, but maybe too much like the ST13 I'm trying to get away from.

[ConPilot1]

Looks very similar to a BMW RT.

I like it.

[falconati]

Looks delicious.  Also looks like you could drop 50 lbs by changing the stock exhaust  

[maddjack]

Looks very similar to a BMW RT.

I like it.

I thought the picture was of a BMW  

[crispiegee1]

I thought the picture was of a BMW  

I really don't like built-in mirrors like that, but I suppose they are also to cut the wind hitting your hands. Just makes it look like a car... I know Honda and BMW do that too.

Looks like another hit from Triumph, though.

[Orson]

When shooting for the RT, Triumph has aimed high. I rented a 2001 RT and came away mightily impressed with its handling in the twisties.

Kudos to Triumph for having the gumption to go after the RT  

I will eagerly wait in anticipation of the comparison tests  

re: the mirrors. They appear a lot like RT mirrors probably because RT mirrors work great. No leaning to peak over your shoulders.

[crispiegee1]

re: the mirrors. They appear a lot like RT mirrors probably because RT mirrors work great. No leaning to peak over your shoulders.

I figured as much. Just looks strange to me.

Kudos to Triumph for having the gumption to go after the RT  

I would go as far to say that there is no motorcycle manufacturer who can compare to the gumption and audacity Triumph has. In 20 years, they have gone from a feisty start-up (built from the ashes of a troubled company with a reputation for poor quality) to a company offering some of the best motorcycles in their classes and one of the most popular and desirable marques today.

[Orson]

I would go as far to say that there is no motorcycle manufacturer who can compare to the...

we need to have a word with you over in the Moto Guzzi section  

then you can come back and explain that your comments were misconstrued  

[crispiegee1]

we need to have a word with you over in the Moto Guzzi section  

then you can come back and explain that your comments were misconstrued  

I was wondering if you'd comment on that paradox.  

The difference to me is that Guzzi makes bikes that will be appreciated by a special kind of person. You need to "get it" to love a Guzzi. And of course, Guzzi makes one type of engine in just a couple of displacements.

Triumph, on the other hand, makes ever style and configuration of road bike, with twins and triples of assorted sizes. The can go head-to-head with the Japanese and trounce them (Daytona 675, Street Trip) and even go up against the Germans (Tiger 800 XC) with a competitive-if-not-outright-better adventure bike (though the same could be said for the Stelvio vs GS1200A).

I recommend a Bonneville to new riders without reservation, whereas the M-G 750 doesn't quite have the same attraction. Guzzi is my favorite old brand and Triumph is my favorite new brand. I don't see myself as ever owning a vintage Triumph, but the modern ones are great. I'm much more likely to buy another vintage Guzzi, but wouldn't rule out a new one either. Or a slightly used 1200 Sport or maybe Norge GT in the future. Oh yes, and a Stelvio.

[coho]

I thought the picture was of a BMW  

Close.  I'm pretty sure there's some ST1300 dna in there somewhere, too.

Totally looks like...

[Yankee Dog]

....................................... ..........................
Close.  I'm pretty sure there's some ST1300 dna in there somewhere, too..........................

   I hope it doesnt weigh as much as one.    

Yankee Dog

[ANZAC]

I've ridden the ST1300 and I like it.  Triumph would be smart to focus on that bike.  The ST1300 offers lots of weather protection, great seating position and is stable underway.

I hope they remember to put the British Flags on the fairing again    

[Tar Snake]

The difference to me is that Guzzi makes bikes that will be appreciated by a special kind of person.

Ah.... so that's what they learn about in Special Education, Guzzis!

[Orson]

Ah.... so that's what they learn about in Special Education, Guzzis!

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[GRN]

   I hope it doesnt weigh as much as one.    

Yankee Dog

I hope in this case it's a bit more RT like... a mix of the best of the 2 with GT nuts would be a helluva a STeed.

[jstark47]

I hope in this case it's a bit more RT like...

+1    R1200RT weighs 200 lbs less than the portly ST1300.  No sport tourer needs to weigh over 700 lbs.  An "RT-like" bike with a Triumph-like price would be welcome.

[coho]

post reported to moderators  

So you told yourself about it?


 
(Please don't ban me!)

[crispiegee1]

+1    R1200RT weighs 200 lbs less than the portly ST1300.  No sport tourer needs to weigh over 700 lbs.  An "RT-like" bike with a Triumph-like price would be welcome.

As I understand, the R-RT is about 560 lbs. and the ST is 700 lbs.  So only 140 pounds difference, according to what I've found.

[GRN]

(ST) 720 - (RT) 570 = 150

[BlueRidgeKat]

So this will be out in.............. 2012 ?

[GRN]

So this will be out in.............. 2012 ?

I would bet yes.

There have been rumors/speculation/wishful thinking regarding a larger displacement. At this time, that bike pictured is a 1050.

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Bored to 1200 for more low end grunt a la 800 Triple from 675 might still be in play and a rather interesting twist, but I kind of doubt that will happen.

[NoDak]

Very interesting.  I think I found my next bike...  If my Sprint ever wears out.

[GRN]

Very interesting.  I think I found my next bike...  

Yup, or next, next bike once I get the off road requirement filled. Something about suggests to me it will encompass many of the things I like about the RT, and few or none of those I don't... silly speculation at best, just an impression.

[maddjack]

I hope the ergos are good for ME , I have been bitching about needing a new Trophy with shaft drive to be made, well looks like Triumph is telling me "Pony UP Maddjack"  

[nomagnashn]

Very interesting.  I think I found my next bike...  If my Sprint ever wears out.

Ditto.  I loved the older Trophy.  I already informed the wife that when this bike came out again, I'd be getting one.

[Rincewind]

I would bet yes.

There have been rumors/speculation/wishful thinking regarding a larger displacement. At this time, that bike pictured is a 1050.

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Bored to 1200 for more low end grunt a la 800 Triple from 675 might still be in play and a rather interesting twist, but I kind of doubt that will happen.

That's a big surprise.  The Tiger 1200 spy pics showed that the new big motor is in development.  I don't know why they wouldn't be using that new motor for a ST rig.

 

[ANZAC]

 

[McHack]

I was all set to love the GT,  but after I sat on it... it still felt like more of a sport bike than I want.

If they build this,  maybe it might go right to the top of my   list.

[stevent]

OK I'll admit it, my 1200 Trophy was my favorite bike of all, better than Harley better than Suzuki, even better than my GS which I happen to be quite fond of. When it got pasted I looked around for a decent replacement but was out of luck. The recent spy shots in Englands MCN of a new shaftie most probably 1400 has definitely got my attention and has me saving my nickles and dimes for a new Triumph
I personally can't wait, what do you think?

 

[BobW]

So far it is pushing all the right buttons. I've had great fun on my Triumphs and the modern offerings are some of the best bang for the buck regardless the OEM, but they need to keep their eye on both maintaining the unique Triumph personality and not taking a low bid approach with suspension, brakes, etc., as they have been prone to do. This demographic will want the Triumph version of the Industry Standard (not a BMW clone per se) and for me a couple hundred dollars here and there at their level will make it a top shelf Motorcycle that I will buy VS waiting for them to possibly offer an upgraded version a few years later.

Cheers  

[2DFlyer]

Need another option for enthralled bystander.  If money were no object, hell yes, but if pointed in that direction I'd have to opt for a used FJR.

[camaroz1985]

I'm trying to convince my step father to wait another year (or until the fall, whenever they are available).  He is wanting to replace his Thunderbird (I think its a '99), and I think this would be the perfect bike for him as he is looking for something sporty, but still comfortable.  He is going to look at the Sprint GT, but I think that will be too sporty for him, and he will end up on a cruiser again because he didn't wait for what looks like an excellent fit for him.  Especially because there is nothing wrong with the Thunderbird, he just has the itch for a new bike.

This is going to be a 2012 right?

[BobW]

The time line will be the great unknown. On several bikes they appear to be in fast forward and then it's only out of focus photos of test mules for 3 more years.   A new bike itch is a terrible thing to waste

[MadOzodi]

I'm trying to convince my step father to wait another year (or until the fall, whenever they are available).  He is wanting to replace his Thunderbird (I think its a '99), and I think this would be the perfect bike for him as he is looking for something sporty, but still comfortable.  He is going to look at the Sprint GT, but I think that will be too sporty for him, and he will end up on a cruiser again because he didn't wait for what looks like an excellent fit for him.  Especially because there is nothing wrong with the Thunderbird, he just has the itch for a new bike.

This is going to be a 2012 right?

Yes, I encourage him to wait also...no need to get rid of the Thunderbird!  No idea if it's going to be a 2012.  From what I've read, the test mule was still using the 1050 mill.

[squeezer]

This is going to be a 2012 right?

Motorcyclist said it would be a 2012 model available in late 2011. No idea if they'll actually hold to that schedule, but that was the plan.

[Tom Herold]

Triumph is my brand of choice, having owned several and enjoyed every one. I had a 1200 Trophy for a long time, great bike, no frills and basically bullet proof.

The only reason I went from it to an FJR was I wanted fuel injection and a shaft drive, which the new Trophy is addressing and will put me back on a Triumph for my heavy sport tourer to complement my 675 Street Triple.

I have a standing order with my local dealer to be notified when one will be available to take a look at and pour over for the sordid details  

[crispiegee1]

Need another option for enthralled bystander.  If money were no object, hell yes, but if pointed in that direction I'd have to opt for a used FJR.

I am an enthralled bystander, as well. I don't like monster touring bikes generally (though I do like shaft drive), so a 1.4 liter mill has no appeal to me. I just get excited every time Triumph introduces a new bike.

My ideal setup would have me on a Tiger 800 XC and a sport touring version of the 675 Daytona. At least they built one of them.

[Rincewind]

Voting closes today... it looks like, "bleah" won out.    

I'm glad Triumph is returning to that market, but I'm not very interested in big touring bikes.  They put me to sleep.

[LostBrit]

A friend and I went to a Triumph open day and rode most of their line up. Every bike we rode was very competitive in it's category for style and performance, and usually at the low end on price. This is a hard combination to beat. Which probably explains why Triumph is still showing sales growth in 2010 while others are showing a decline.

As soon as the Trophy is in I will go and check it out, it is likely to follow the trend and give the competition something to think about.

Hopefully they will have at least 1200cc, shaft, minimum 250 miles range (before the light) and slightly more upright than the Sprint GT. I am guessing they will also go back to an inline 4, but a triple would also do well if it hits the other criteria.

[Croak]

Triumph has made it clear they're be doing parallel twins and inline triples exclusively.  It'd take something pretty spectacular to get them to make another 4 banger at this point.

[pushr0d]

I am an enthralled bystander, as well. I don't like monster touring bikes generally (though I do like shaft drive), so a 1.4 liter mill has no appeal to me. I just get excited every time Triumph introduces a new bike.

My ideal setup would have me on a Tiger 800 XC and a sport touring version of the 675 Daytona. At least they built one of them.

CG1,

You don't need the 675 sport tourer.  The 800XC will do the job, and hold bigger bags!  If it's too tall for you, the Street version will be a '675 ST', but with an 800cc mill.

The XC I rode has all the power I wanted.  Not with the 'grunt' of my 955, but it ran very nicely!  The gearbox is so good it's hard to describe.

[GRN]

The recent spy shots in Englands MCN of a new shaftie most probably 1400...

I've not heard any speculation that high... general talk by folks connected to the brand is 1200-1250. I'm inclined to believe 1250 based on the idea that they could take the same approach (same bore, extended stroke) with modifying the 1050 to just shy of 1250 as they did when they sized up the 675 to 800 (799). This approach for a touring bike shooting at the RT would be right on and produce a smooth lower revving mill with a gobs of low end torque.

This would also be consistent with the licensing information. The 800 development bike was spec'd as a 675 based on the info registered to it's tag #. The Trophy development bike is registered as a 1050.

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[Croak]

The problem is, the 1050 is already stroked to hell and back, remember it started as an 885, stroked to 955, then stroked to 1050.  The block won't support much in the way of boring either.

Long story longer, they've pretty much come to end of life with the 885-based motor, the next big triple will need to be a clean sheet.  

[BobW]

^ That's my understanding as well. The 675 has a whole generation of improvements that allowed for the current 800 where as the current 1050 is maxed and they're due for a whole new "big" motor " to meet future applications as well as noise/emissions. Real Big is no problem either with a few Rocket engineers in the house looking to create the next new killer 3  

[GRN]

^ That's my understanding as well. The 675 has a whole generation of improvements that allowed for the current 800 where as the current 1050 is maxed and they're due for a whole new "big" motor " to meet future applications as well as noise/emissions. Real Big is no problem either with a few Rocket engineers in the house looking to create the next new killer 3  

Croak - I forgot the progression leading to the 1050, I agree, makes sense that it's at it's end. You mentioning that actually scuffs a dim memory of reading something quoting Triumph along the same lines regarding the development of the new mill.

I don't see them going super big though... 10 years ago the market was asking for more power, and displacements expanded. Now we're making more power than you really need. A 560 lb VFR 1200 with 172 hp/92 lb.-ft. could (should) be the new platform for Honda ST... why?... because it will weigh in well south of the current ST1300's portly 720+ lb, and run circles around the 110 hp/88 ft-lb R1200RT. The current market wants lighter and in the premium ST segment the RT is the target. Given the love or hate character of the boxer and residual paranoia about their final drive, it's an easy target when you aim a Triumph Triple at it. To really hit the mark in the ST market I believe the emphasis has to be a balance between additional power and moderate weight, the segment already has its quota of whales. Given what we have seen Triumph do in the last few years, I believe that's the direction they will take... it would certainly be consistent with the development of the Tiger 800 targeting the 800GS, and done quite well to boot.

[BobW]

I agree with the target you describe (I was simply giving a little acknowledgement that Triumph certainly could go as big or bigger than any other OEM). I was very happy with my Sprint, yet the new GT doesn't "do it" for me and I was hoping for a new Trophy class bike when they gave us the T-Bird (great bike with modern tech, wrong platform for me). Triumph also has a great conquest sales opportunity with a top notch offering if BMW retires the remaining K-1300 bikes. The 6 is a very interesting and powerful motor, but it's complexity and HUGE platform will help create a bigger void in their ST coverage if the S joins the GT. Not every rider wants a 2 wheeled BMW Buick.

Good times ahead if the economy can give them the needed sales.

Cheers

[rgbeard]

I'll be "second in line", or more accurately, "in line for a second (hand)."

So far I've made it to age 43 without ever purchasing a brand-new vehicle.  I guess I'm allergic to the first years of depreciation and especially allergic to dealing with the games that dealerships play.

So I'll let someone buy one of these in late 11 or early 12, and look for them to have their wife lay down the law.

Those wives are my best friends in a transaction such as this.  

[stevent]

I don't mind paying new prices but I usually try to find a leftover, I save a couple of bucks that way and the dealers are usually more willing to wheel and deal to move last years product. My '02 Trophy was a leftover, likewise my '09 GS and in fact most of the other new bikes I've bought.

I remember now how Triumph said they were sticking to twins and triples, I had forgotten. I actually thought they might have dusted off the design for the 1400 4cyl they had a few years back.....time will tell and a large triple would certainly be cool too. I'm pretty pumped to see what they come out with..

[GRN]

I don't mind paying new prices but I usually try to find a leftover, I save a couple of bucks that way and the dealers are usually more willing to wheel and deal to move last years product. My '02 Trophy was a leftover, likewise my '09 GS and in fact most of the other new bikes I've bought.

I remember now how Triumph said they were sticking to twins and triples, I had forgotten. I actually thought they might have dusted off the design for the 1400 4cyl they had a few years back.....time will tell and a large triple would certainly be cool too. I'm pretty pumped to see what they come out with..

Agreed, late fall purchases on second year of the generation models of my ST13 and Sprint ST saved me over $5K in two years... that funds a few nice long rides!  

[camaroz1985]

I'm trying to convince my step father to wait another year (or until the fall, whenever they are available).  He is wanting to replace his Thunderbird (I think its a '99), and I think this would be the perfect bike for him as he is looking for something sporty, but still comfortable.  He is going to look at the Sprint GT, but I think that will be too sporty for him, and he will end up on a cruiser again because he didn't wait for what looks like an excellent fit for him.  Especially because there is nothing wrong with the Thunderbird, he just has the itch for a new bike.

This is going to be a 2012 right?

He couldn't wait.  Bought a 2008 Rocket III with less than 3K miles.

[GRN]

He couldn't wait.  Bought a 2008 Rocket III with less than 3K miles.

Nothin' wrong w/ that.

[BlueRidgeKat]

Any new information on the Trophy? Theres got to be some more pics out there somewhere.

[CGameProgrammer]

I too am eager to see what Triumph does with this bike, but no, no news. Hopefully Triumph will release more information later this year, as opposed to abandoning or postponing the bike like Honda did with the VFR1200T (though admittedly only sketches of the latter where shown, versus an actual working prototype in the case of the Trophy).

[GRN]

I too am eager to see what Triumph does with this bike, but no, no news. Hopefully Triumph will release more information later this year, as opposed to abandoning or postponing the bike like Honda did with the VFR1200T (though admittedly only sketches of the latter where shown, versus an actual working prototype in the case of the Trophy).

The ST13 is done, and like the transition from the ST11 they are not offering a "new" model this year while dealers clear the leftover 2010's out. There is no official word yet on the "new" ST, but there is official word on a new "P" (police) variant on the 1200 platform that is not a VFR, and appears to be very ST like. We may finally see Honda's new ST offering announced at the end of this year. Hopefully, like versions past, we don't have to wait a year while listening to Europe gloat about how great it is. If they had done it a year ago I might have been interested...

[GRN]

One point forgotten in the previous post... from what I heard the VFR1200 in it's current configuration will not be in the 2012 line up...

[BlueRidgeKat]

One point forgotten in the previous post... from what I heard the VFR1200 in it's current configuration will not be in the 2012 line up...

Doesnt surprise me, this thing was a flop from the beginning.

[GRN]

Doesnt surprise me, this thing was a flop from the beginning.

No doubt... only one of four Honda dealers I frequent have ever sold one, and only one... they sell more NT's and DN's!  

[Rincewind]

New pic, though I think it's from the original set previously linked in this thread... source

[sammyseaman]

New pic, though I think it's from the original set previously linked in this thread... source

 

[ANZAC]

Oh yes - please bring this bike over  

Make sure you hang some Union Jacks on it too just like the old Trophy's  

[tigertom1965]

That last picture is N..I..C..E!!!!
When I saw the original pictures it looked too much like the size of the ST1300.
That looks like it should be smaller and does look a lot like my R1200RT.
The original links said it would be 1200cc and possible going to 1400cc if needed.
I am starting to dig the 2011 1050 Sprint GT though. I would definately need a Scottoiler though. The GT is 581 (Or 591?) lbs wet so what would this new Trophy 1200 weigh? I am guessing over 600 lbs which is too much weight for me and the costs would be much higher since the research costs would be tacked on since it is new.
I certainly hope they keep the GT for sale for awhile after the Trophy comes out. I may just think about trading to the GT but the trophy will be too much weight and money for me.

[caddydaddy]

I certainly hope they keep the GT for sale for awhile after the Trophy comes out.

Since they got rid of the ST, I'd think they'd keep the GT for those who want a lighter Sport-Touring bike.

[Rincewind]

More spy shots c/o MCN via Triumph-Torque

[ConPilot1]

I be likin' that new Trophy. Looks awesome.  

[ANZAC]

The local dealer here in Portland confirmed a late release this year for the Trophy.  "Too many BMW owners looking for a shaft driven bike"  

[Orson]

Bumping this from Page 2  

[camaroz1985]

I won't get to see any new Triumphs (at least not easily), as our local dealer just closed.  I was looking forward to checking this out once it was released.

[falconati]

I hope they use a twin or triple engine.

[Rincewind]

I hope they use a twin or triple engine.

All signs indicate it will share engines with the Tiger/Adventurer/Explorer 1200, which is clearly a big Triple in the spy shots.  

[falconati]

Thank goodness.  

[BobW]

hook................................... ..................  

[Orson]

Bump from Page 2  

[Rincewind]

New spy pics today.  

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/2013-triumph-trophy-spied-again/20142.html

[falconati]

It's an RT?

[Playinthestreet]

It's an RT?

My thoughts as well.

[Orson]

Having toured on an RT, and experienced what a capable SPORT-touring bike it is, I am not surprised that Triumph is using the RT as a foundation for their bike  

[Yankee Dog]

It's an RT?

I liked my RT. And so did the missus. We just didnt like it when the final drive went out. And we dont like the astronomical price of the new ones.

[Rincewind]

Looks a lot like a ST1300 as well.  Heck, all those big tourers and megascoots look alike anyway.  

Funny that visordown link has removed the Trophy pics from their page, but my hotlink is still live.  The further pics that visordown had up are still at their link to motociclismo, where the pics originated.

[Yankee Dog]

Cant say I care overly about the looks. Like you say, they really all look alilke. What I care about are ergos, luggage and engine. In that order.

[Orson]

An RT with a triple has a certain appeal  

[Rincewind]

The Tiger Explorer 1200 initial journalist reviews should be out today or tomorrow.  That should make you Trophy guys salivate as I imagine the new 1200 triple with shaft drive system will be well received.

[caddydaddy]

An RT with a triple has a certain appeal  

Yes, that twin on the RT shakes like a Harley at idle!    A Triple would be  

[Tyrroneous]

While I didn't mind the engine on the RT my wife and I rented last summer, a little more poke in the 'go' department wouldn't be a bad thing on a bike as big as the RT.  What I didn't care for was the transmission on the RT.  The handling was great for a bike its size.  If the Triumph can match the weight and handling of the RT, with a slicker transmission and a gutsier motor, it'll have another bike in the win column.  

[ConPilot1]

I've heard the RT transmission can be a little clunky. Never rode an RT so I can't say.

[Yankee Dog]

I've heard the RT transmission can be a little clunky. Never rode an RT so I can't say.

My 1150 was not as smooth as my Trumpets, but better than my Ural or Uly.  

[Roadscum]

At the I M S in Charolette yesterday the Triumph rep confirmed that the new Throphy will be in dealer showroons in Sept/Oct. BRING IT!!!!

Regrds, Paul

[crispiegee1]

At the I M S in Charolette yesterday the Triumph rep confirmed that the new Throphy will be in dealer showroons in Sept/Oct. BRING IT!!!!

Regrds, Paul

When I first read this, I thought, "This guy doesn't even know how to spell 'Trophy.'"  Then I got it.  

[Rincewind]

Here is the first longer review with high-res pics... [of the new Tiger 1200 not the Trophy   ]

http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-triumph-tiger-explorer-1200/20167.html

[Cablebandit]

I think you hit the wrong thread or link or something.....

[Rincewind]

   Stupid me and my multi-tasking.  

[kendenton]

I've ridden the new Tiger Explorer with that 1200cc triple - let me tell you this ain't no BMW Boxer motor!  I loved loved loved that new motor!  Very smooth, tons of grunt down low and a big top-end hit.  Not Connie14 territory for ultimate power, but it will leave the RT in the dust.