Stelvio or a Norge

[Mizzou]

Which one for long distance rinding.  Riding from from VA to Fl then through AL and back.

[SLK50]

  While I've done the S-T thing ( more than once ) I could see myself on a Norge.

  BUT, it's the Stelvio that grabs my attention. I'd go for the standard version

with the cast wheels and and add  the panniers from the NTX.

  It's mostly about how I'd use it, any road, anywhere, any time, loaded for bear.

[Thunderbox]

Which one for long distance rinding.  Riding from from VA to Fl then through AL and back.

They will both do a great job of that.  Just pick one.  Sounds like you have a preference for the Stelvio, so go fo it.

[Biking Sailor]

You need to ride them both!  The Stelvio is taller and little less protection from the elements, or at least seems so.  The Norge sits lower and has the more substantial fairing/plastic up front and around the engine.  Stelvio for unpaved and gravel, go anywhere mentality.  The Norge for a more refined mile eater.  Both will work quite nicely when the pavement gets a bit twisty.  All IMHO of course.  

[WitchCityBallabio]

I have to say that other than my Ambassador with that lovely spring seat, the Stelvio is the best long distance machine I have ever owned. It has a very comfortable riding position, can haul a ton of gear, and the suspension makes most road imperfections just disappear.

[radlefty]

I have 28,000 miles on my Norge and have done 700+ mile days on it with no problem. I've never ridden a Stelvio but as others have said it should be quite capable of touring many miles. I sat on a Stelvio and as Biking Sailor noted, it sits a bit taller then the Norge and it also puts your feet more underneath you, whereas the Norge puts your feet slightly back creating a slight forward lean in the spine. For me, I prefer the ergos and the styling of the Norge, but everyone is different in that regard. Both great bikes, pick the one that fits you best.

[tdeboeser]

 


Us Guzzi wantabe noobs need pic!!

[Dean]

If it were me I'd go with the Stelvio.


Dean

[falconati]

My favorite is the Stelvio, but the Norge sounds better for those roads.

[radlefty]

 


Us Guzzi wantabe noobs need pic!!


Ok, here you go.

[Biking Sailor]

I've seen that pic before, and it still makes me want to run over to NW Arkansas for some "spirited" touring!  

[Mizzou]

How about the Breva 1100?

[Daniel Kalal]

The current Stelvio has a larger fuel tank than most anybody should ever need, but all the earlier models have a rather limited range (measured only by the context of a long trip across remote wastelands).  The Norge doesn't let you move around much at all (it is, after all, at heart a full-dress Breva), but if where you are is where you ought to be; that's fine.

Me?  If this is the only choice, I'd get the new big-tank Stelvio, a taller shield, raise the seat and probably never bother with the bags.

[Thunderbox]

The current Stelvio has a larger fuel tank than most anybody should ever need, but all the earlier models have a rather limited range (measured only by the context of a long trip across remote wastelands).  The Norge doesn't let you move around much at all (it is, after all, at heart a full-dress Breva), but if where you are is where you ought to be; that's fine.

Me?  If this is the only choice, I'd get the new big-tank Stelvio, a taller shield, raise the seat and probably never bother with the bags.

I believe the Norge is a dressed 1200 Sport not a Breva.  2 different beasts.

[Dean]

I believe the Norge is a dressed 1200 Sport not a Breva.  2 different beasts.

You wish.

Dean

[Mizzou]

Dean

Then what is it?

[Dean]

Dean

Then what is it?

It's a Breva with another 100cc of engine and a better set of forks that's it guys. It ain't a Lemans for GODs sake. I won't argue the fact that it's nice. What's even better and what I'd like to own is a 1200 8V Sport set up like my Breva with the cam that the Stelvio and the 8V Norge has, more power in the mid range.

Dean

[Daniel Kalal]

...are 2 different beasts.

You might be thinking Griso?  

1) The Breva/Sport/Norge are esentially same beast with different body panels (and on staggered years, picking up the improvements in the engines from year to year).
2) The Griso has a perimeter frame (not shared with anything else) and generally top-shelf suspension components.
3) Of course, the small-block Breva is an altogether different bike than the big-block Breva.

[Pete Roper]

Yup, that's about it. 1200 Sport and Norge are now available with the 8V motor. Norge, because of its vast and all enveloping fairing also has a thermofan  for the oil cooler (Once again highlighting the fact that the motor is in fact liquid cooled, its simply that the cooland is its own lubricating oil.).

FWIW looking at the pics of the new Cali my guess is that what people are presuming is a 'water' radiator is simply a larger and more visible version of the oversized, fan forced, oil cooler radiater as used on the Norge. Apart from the enormous, ugly, rocker covers the head and barell look identical to the current 8V motor. My guess is that the next generation motor, which people are saying will be needed to meet Euro4 regulations, will have water/glycol cooling and probably DOHC valve operation. Due to the position of the motor in the frame, if they retain shaft drive they will either stick the throttle bodies and injectors in the valley, (Begging the question of where the alternator will be placed. If they want to keep the motor short it would be unwise to go back to crank mounting it.) and exhausts exiting on the sides of the heads or, if they keep the side-draught design they'll have to run a chain drive up the side of the cylinders like the current Hi-Cam motor and then somehow turn drive through 90 degrees in the head to drive the cams. The alternatives would be horribly comples and power-sappingly heavy, although with those weird rocker covers on the new Cali who knows whats happeneing underneath them!

Pete

[Gee-Tee]

If your trip has no gravel or dirt roads a Norge will suffice. If you want to occasionally venture off the beaten path I'd go for this.



I even extended my range with 2.4 gallons by adding this.



Or you can wait for the 2nd generation Stelvio with it's 8.5 gallon tank.