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« on: March 21, 2011, 03:07:35 PM »
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2011-kawasaki-zx10r-vs-2011-bmw-s1000rr-shootout-90571.html

186 rwhp...

ZX10 apologists are saying a remap takes the ZX from 165 to 180 as this is an emissions thing.

But the Beemer does this legally.  Holy moley.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 03:09:28 PM »
Freakin' ridiculous how gutless liter bikes have become. Thumbsdown
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 08:31:20 AM »
My K13S is underpowered and overweight...
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 08:36:38 AM »
Quote from: Major 662 on March 22, 2011, 08:31:20 AM

My K13S is underpowered and overweight...



The k13S was overweight at inception.  Not underpowered though.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 08:52:47 AM »
What I find interesting is how different the various 1000's deliver their power. The CBR is 20 RWHP stronger than the new 2011 ZX-10 at 9000 rpm, the previous 3rd gen ZX-10 is 15 RWHP stronger, and the, BMW is 10 HP stronger. A street rider will see 9000 rpm a lot more often than 13,000 rpm. The latest issue of BIKE compared a broken in BMW (192 RWHP), new 2011 ZX-10 (175 RWHP -non restricted Euro version), previous 3rd gen ZX-10 (169 RWHP), and the CBR at a limp wristed 165 RWHP. But the new Kaw has the best electronics package and chassis while the CBR is old school- no engine modes, traction control, anti wheelie control,etc.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 09:22:08 AM »
Only 165rwhp? How can Honda owners even show their faces?

How embarassing for them.



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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 10:21:16 AM »
they'll clearly get passed like they're standing still
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 09:10:36 PM »
This must be what it's like for crack addicts and I lead a pretty tame existence.  I remember the first time I rode a XL1200.  Coming from a tired 750 (or maybe it was the PC800) it felt like it was going to rip my arms off.  Then came the first yehaw moment on the first ZRX at a something like 80 at the rear wheel of which I'm using maybe 50 or 60.  Guess it pays to be a cheap date.  Other than bragging rights and insurance payments I have no idea what I'd do with 185.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2011, 09:22:49 PM »
Quote from: 2DFlyer on March 22, 2011, 09:10:36 PM

This must be what it's like for crack addicts and I lead a pretty tame existence.  I remember the first time I rode a XL1200.  Coming from a tired 750 (or maybe it was the PC800) it felt like it was going to rip my arms off.  Then came the first yehaw moment on the first ZRX at a something like 80 at the rear wheel of which I'm using maybe 50 or 60.  Guess it pays to be a cheap date.  Other than bragging rights and insurance payments I have no idea what I'd do with 185.



Coming to the National meet?  If you do, and I manage to make it, I'll let you ride my 220 RWHP bike.  Mainline it, baby.  Mainline it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2011, 10:32:27 PM »
Quote from: miles on March 22, 2011, 09:22:08 AM

Only 165rwhp? How can Honda owners even show their faces?

How embarassing for them.



The rain mode on the BMW restricts the engine output to "only" 149hp.   Lol

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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2011, 10:55:10 PM »
Quote from: miles on March 22, 2011, 09:22:49 PM


Coming to the National meet?  If you do, and I manage to make it, I'll let you ride my 220 RWHP bike.  Mainline it, baby.  Mainline it.


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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 07:36:38 PM »
That is me on my Ducati Monster 696 at NJMP followed by a rider on a BMW S1000RR.  He never passed me.  

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 09:33:35 PM »
I got to ride a ZX-10R from the Kawasaki demo truck this weekend (along with a Z1000, Ninja 1000 [twice], and a C-14 with a passenger).

My first impression was how comfy it was compared to the BMW.  This was a product of three things - the seat was much wider further forward, the bars angles were considerably flatter, though they weren't actually much higher, and the suspension was a *lot* more plush.

The bike was noticeably down on power compared to my BMW, even though we only got one solid 10-100mph sprint; although the delivery felt more immediate and direct.  (NB - this turns out to be the BMW mode choice.  I normally ride around in "Sport", the softest dry road mode.  I switched up to "Slick" mode today to compare and it was as, um, "responsive" as the Kawasaki.)

It felt a lot bigger, particularly a lot *longer*.  I think this was a perception caused by the styling of the windscreen, which reaches out to the nose of the bike.

Can't wait until the other Japanese manufacturers respond - in 2013 we should have a heck of a liter bike shootout.

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 09:41:46 PM »
BTW, the C14 *sucks*!!!

WTF did they do to the ZX-14?  Slow, noisy, vibey, did I mention slow, wind noise in every windshield position, damn it was slow, NO acceleration in a "OD" (sixth gear) rollon, clunky.  Ick.  I admit that I had a passenger aboard, and the suspension did handle the load fairly well.  But damn that was an unimpressive experience.   Thumbsdown

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 04:25:13 PM »
motorcycle-usa.com has a new shoot out.

BMW #1
Honda #2

The all conquering new ZX10 #3....

To be fair a Guzzi was not in the mix, otherwise the results could have been very different.
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