Laser advance real estate lane marker

[GTS_Rider]

Is it wrong?...

[birdrunner]

No,  yes,   er maybe

I am firm in my indecision.

[GTS_Rider]

No,  yes,   er maybe

I am firm in my indecision.

I sense you need more info...

My intent is to paint a dot on the road, that will be passing cagers,  apx. 100 yards before my actual physical arrival. I'm working with a 200mw laser from China (50 bux). Fo sho, it's strong enough you definitely don't want any direct beam to eyeball contact. I'm thinking mounted under my headlight with a downward angle, there's no chance of even collecting a side-view mirror reflection for any cagers...

Eh, not fully implemented yet, but wiring and testing from 12v power-source has been completed...

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[birdrunner]

I see some driver get distracted by the light, crash and sue you.

Bump up the laser intensity, and destroy all obstacles.

[kevin_stevens]

Cool!  And when you corner hard, you can blind oncoming drivers and send them careening right into your path!

Sanity check - when people do this when they see you coming - rethink.

KeS

[jimmy]

I can predict with absolute certainty that you will not be able to avoid crashing when you run over all the cats that will chase that laser!  

[M.Brane]

My intent is to paint a dot on the road, that will be passing cagers,  apx. 100 yards before my actual physical arrival.

 So you want drivers concentrating on funny green dot 100 yards ahead of you instead of on you or what's in front of them?  

 Cagers are distracted enough already methinks, and the ones that are truly distracted ain't gonna notice your marker. Those that do aren't gonna understand. They'll just be like "WTF izzat?"

[coho]

Some, probably many, will immediately drive right over it.  Either intentionally or by target fixation.

[GTS_Rider]

I can predict with absolute certainty that you will not be able to avoid crashing when you run over all the cats that will chase that laser!  

   Yeah, my cat's already bored with it, but perhaps I can round up and provide some exercise for other neighborhood kittahs...

[GTS_Rider]

...Cagers are distracted enough already methinks, and the ones that are truly distracted ain't gonna notice your marker. Those that do aren't gonna understand. They'll just be like "WTF izzat?"

Yeah, this will be used in lane-splitting situations. My thought is that the ones that 'do' notice getting passed by a green dot on the roadway will look around for a source and perhaps make room for me when I actually arrive...

But Hey, it is what it is, a wacky experiment.

Any other predictions of the outcome of this experiment?

Zero effect?

Pied Piper Kitteh Parade?

Mass death and carnage?

Arrested by homeland security and sent to Guantanamo?

[M.Brane]

Arrested by homeland security and sent to Guantanamo?

 Maybe not that bad, but I'm sure any LEOs that notice won't be amused. I've known more than one person who got in trouble for "having fun" with lasers.

[jvick98]

My laser gunsight experiment fizzled, can't see it in bright sunlight.

Jim

[GTS_Rider]

 Maybe not that bad, but I'm sure any LEOs that notice won't be amused. I've known more than one person who got in trouble for "having fun" with lasers.

Yeah, I've done a little bit of research on 'laser laws'. The one we all know, point it at an aircraft, you're likely going to federal prison. Some states have laws on the books for pointing it at a leo. Of course pointing it directly at the operator of a motor-vehicle is also a big no-no, can't remember exactly which states have specific laws enacted already.

I'm pretty sure there's no specific law 'yet' prohibiting pointing a laser at the roadway from a moving vehicle. For sure, if caught in the act, I'm sure there's 'something' they can figure out to write me for...

 

[GTS_Rider]

My laser gunsight experiment fizzled, can't see it in bright sunlight.

Jim

Yeah, I think gunsight lasers are typically < 5mw. Mine at 200mw is maybe 50 times more powerful. It's still visible in full sunlight, but perhaps still not bright enough to really be 'noticed'. At night-time it may well be too friggin bright. My commute includes both day and night riding, so we'll see...  

[bomber]

I am confident that you'll forget to un-deploy it, having is shine into the mirror of someone in front of you, or, as others said, into oncoming traffic when you corner.

While YOU may know that the lil green dots means you will be there in a moment, no one else will . . . commo only works when both ends are expecting it, and understand.

[Leanintree]

I'm pretty sure there's no specific law 'yet' prohibiting pointing a laser at the roadway from a moving vehicle. For sure, if caught in the act, I'm sure there's 'something' they can figure out to write me for...

I'm VERY certain that you should start saving now for your lawyer. No matter whether there is a law specifically regarding your proposed usage, you WILL have to attempt to explain it to the 5-0, and you WILL end up having to pay out for citations, or court costs, or legal representation to mitigate this goofiness' effect on your license.

Why would you offer yourself up as a sacrificial lamb for no good reason? Really? If you ask to be harassed, you shouldn't be surprised when you get what you ask for.

LT

[zer0netgain]

Can laser light be "diffused" by a lens to make a wider, harmless light beam with limited range?

That could let you project a bright "spot" onto the road that only goes X yards ahead of you and would otherwise pose no threat if someone was to glimpse at the light itself.

[RRdvark]

Add on the fancy movement controller so you can make it shine words or pictures ahead of you.  That can eliminate the communication problem.  Then you can also rent your bike out to local bands as a portable concert laser show.

[kevin_stevens]

Can laser light be "diffused" by a lens to make a wider, harmless light beam with limited range?

That could let you project a bright "spot" onto the road that only goes X yards ahead of you and would otherwise pose no threat if someone was to glimpse at the light itself.

Ooo, like a "headlight"!  

KeS

[Cheap Weenie]

This has got to be one of the worst ideas ever.

[OrangeSVS]

Add on the fancy movement controller so you can make it shine words or pictures ahead of you.  That can eliminate the communication problem.  Then you can also rent your bike out to local bands as a portable concert laser show.

+1

Why not get one of those effects lasers that do pretty patterns?  That'd be pretty cool.    

[GTS_Rider]

This has got to be one of the worst ideas ever.

Winning!    

[coho]

[GTS_Rider]

...Then you can also rent your bike out to local bands as a portable concert laser show.

 

[GTS_Rider]

...Why would you offer yourself up as a sacrificial lamb for no good reason? Really? If you ask to be harassed, you shouldn't be surprised when you get what you ask for.

LT

This here's a good question. I mean, the whole 'theoretical' project actually goes 100% against the grain of my current riding style. I'm normally all about accepting and riding like I'm invisible and go for stealth.  Hey, I ride a black bike with gray gear and helmet. No loud pipes or horn here. When I get cut-off in freeway traffic, I just move the F outta the way. Never use the horn button or give a 1 finger salute during or after such encounters. I just keep on keeping on, in a 'I knew you'd do that' sorta way...

So, back to the why, I guess it's because after all these years, I still have a geek-streak. Really it's just a random thought that may never go to full implementation. Though, I do now possess all the key ingredients including the laser, 12v to 3v converter, mini-toggle switch, etc.

So far it's just a thread I started for entertainment purposes...  

 

[OrangeSVS]

Well, FWIW, I was partly serious about mounting one of those laser projector things ahead of your bike. It'd be a pretty light show.    

[carpe_diem]

You know they have these things that are legal and won't blind somebody:



https://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=2

[GTS_Rider]

Yeah, I couldn't stand not to try it. My current main commuter bike is now equipped with laser beam....

First  observations , it's barely viable in full day-light, unless you ping a road reflector and then you light it up with a green ping. I think one cager reacted to the green-ping and move over, though I can't be sure and more research is need....

Night-time usage is more suicidal, any cops for miles would sight that shit and say 'wtf?'




  

  

[M.Brane]

 My current main commuter bike is now equipped with laser beam....

 I assume this would be the yellow bike that came to stay with me for a while. Too bad you don't have a yellow laser. That would be too good.

 PS any word on SV tags yet?

[Imapilot]

Yeah, I've done a little bit of research on 'laser laws'. The one we all know, point it at an aircraft, you're likely going to federal prison.

And yet you would be amazed how many we send to jail every month still for it..... 

And sorry for digging up an old post,  i just can't believe how many people dont know that rule so i was happy to see someone accually DOES!! 

[GTS_Rider]

The GTS laser-bike is back! It's been parked for a while due to floppy rear fender mostly, but I just updated the rear-fender last weekend with all the spec fasteners and this will be my winter commute vehicle, since it's got abs and all.

Any-case, the laser beam is still working for me on testing the last week. On cloudy day, it worked well to clear fellow moto-rider from the split lane. They may not notice the green spot ahead of them on the pavement, but when I aim it just right to dazzzle the reflector on the road, he was actually looking in his mirrors, and moved over right away...  

I'm sure to get hassled by the police if they catch me using it, but otherwise it's just fun, especially at night and really bright....

Might need to try to catch some video and see how it turns out...

[playinatwork]

Can you make it strong enough to sear a deer?  Now we're talking about a useful tool.

[CLAY]

Might need to try to catch some video and see how it turns out...

Yes!  This looks interesting...

[Dan K]

How did I miss this thread first time around?

[Gary B.]

 So you want drivers concentrating on funny green dot 100 yards ahead of you instead of on you or what's in front of them?  

 Cagers are distracted enough already methinks, and the ones that are truly distracted ain't gonna notice your marker. Those that do aren't gonna understand. They'll just be like "WTF izzat?"

+1

Bad idea.

[GTS_Rider]

+1

Bad idea.

Yeah, after a couple weeks more experimental use, I'm agreeing it's a bad idea. I did try to capture some vid, but it's so far from reality, not worth posting...

On the bad idea part, it's equally distracting to me, when I switch it on and 'try' to determine if there's any cager reaction, and then if it due to the laser, or just the fact they looked in their rear-view mirror when I was gaining on them. No way to determine, without interviewing each cager.

Final analysis, I thing it's cool in a geeky sort of way that my bike shoots a laser beam. I'm shying away from deployment as a regular thing. Best use I've found so far is to momentary deploy the laser to clear slower splitters outta the split lane...  
 
 

[Gary B.]

Hey! Kudos to you for at least trying out the idea!

[TuffguyF4i]

I think this idea sucks.  

Look at the laser laws again.  I belive you will find that anything over 50mw is illegal to buy.  China will not legally import anything above 50.  

[GTS_Rider]

I think this idea sucks.  

Look at the laser laws again.  I belive you will find that anything over 50mw is illegal to buy.  China will not legally import anything above 50.  

Ok Tuffguy, you're entitled to your opinion, but your EOE card has been revoked.  

Never-mind I already stated at the beginning of the thread that I purchased and received a 200mw laser from China. Legal-Schmeegal, have you even bothered a google search?

Any-case, I'm still liking my laser bike after I got over the hump of fascination and now down to limited and appropriate deployments of the weapon. Just tonight, I got off early from work, and when I deployed the laser to clear a slower lane-splitter  from the split-lane, it was almost comical how quickly he got outta my way  

As far as what is legal, I'm not really concerned. I know how I have it aimed it's just hitting the road in front of me when I deploy. I'm not even close for hitting someone in the eye. My laser lane marker is a piddly cheap thing compared to what is available...







 

[Rogue]

Rick, why do you want the device for?  

I say just put on some bright LED lights on your commuter bike to get people to notice you.  I laser seems devious and can just get you in trouble.  

The bright LED auxiliary lights will even HELP you see better instead of being a distraction.  

[GTS_Rider]

Rick, why do you want the device for?  

I say just put on some bright LED lights on your commuter bike to get people to notice you.  I laser seems devious and can just get you in trouble.  

The bright LED auxiliary lights will even HELP you see better instead of being a distraction.  

Eh, I guess you just don't get me, or my wacky experimental ways.  

Too bad ST.N.  v1 crashed and burned, because my two earlier, well documented, lane-splitting experiments went down in flames with it. One was running a bullhorn with a repeated sound-track loop of the the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon where he's trying to make his way down a row of seats in a movie theater (excuse me, pardon me, pardon me, excuse me... etc.). The other was running a shrouded 5 million candle-power spot light ahead of me to announce my short arrival. Kinda glad that one's not around for review, because the set-up was a really bad kludge  .

Any-case, those first two experiments never went past a couple days testing. I'll accept devious and trouble for the laser experiment, but it's made it through testing, and now resides in the novelty sector. I'm keeping this one because it is useful in some situations, and maybe I'm still the only guy that shoots a laser beam ahead of arrival?

Could still be a bad idea, even for occasional and limited deployments. Just for fun, I deployed yesterday on the way to work in grid-lock traffic. You can't really see it in full daylight, but you can see it in shadows, like under an overpass of the freeway. Just as I was coming up on a CHP cruiser that was coming into an overpass, I flipped it on. I managed to get a ping off one of the divider reflectors as well. It sure seemed like he saw it, because he swiveled his head and was looking hard at me as I split by. Still, wtf was he gonna do? He was parked in grid-lock traffic...  







   

[Gary B.]

 One was running a bullhorn with a repeated sound-track loop of the the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon where he's trying to make his way down a row of seats in a movie theater (excuse me, pardon me, pardon me, excuse me... etc.).

 

[M.Brane]

 running a bullhorn with a repeated sound-track loop of the the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon where he's trying to make his way down a row of seats in a movie theater (excuse me, pardon me, pardon me, excuse me... etc.).

 

 You're killin' me dude...

[GTS_Rider]

 

 You're killin' me dude...

Yeah, and just in-case you think I'm making this shit up (I think this was 7-8+years ago)...

I dug up the original bullhorn (or more accurately, Leah told me she knew where it was). I'm wondering if the original soundtrack is still on it. The batteries are long since dead, and it runs on 4 C-cell batteries so it's not like I have any of those lying around. Does anything run on C batteries anymore?  I think I'll need to pick some of those up.

Anyway, here's bad cellphone photo proof of wackyness, years of dust left intact...

[M.Brane]

Yeah, and just in-case you think I'm making this shit up

 Never doubted it at all brotha.  

[Rogue]

 

I like your experiments!  

I don't get to lane split as much as you in really heavy traffic so I don't get the urge to experiment.    My environment is more conducive to stealth running.

[antvq]

Anyway, here's bad cellphone photo proof of wackyness, years of dust left intact...

Is that a jar of moonshine?  If so, it would explain a lot.  



I can't stop laughing at the though of you cruising between lanes with the soundtrack playing.