New CB1000R on the dyno

[atadaskew]

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/6/1036/4/Motorcycle-Blog-Post/Honda-CB1000R-Horsepower-and-Torque-Dyno.aspx
 
108hp?
Really?
 
Kawi's Z1000 makes about 125.
Same for Yam FZ1
 
Honda's own CBR1000RR makes 155.  Why should this bike make 33% less power than that?
 
Don't the Vtwin liquid cooled nekkid bikes from Ducati, Aprilia and KTM also make a lot more than the CB1000?
 
What is this, 1995?

[Mookie]

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/6/1036/4/Motorcycle-Blog-Post/Honda-CB1000R-Horsepower-and-Torque-Dyno.aspx
 
108hp?
Really?
 
Kawi's Z1000 makes about 125.
Same for Yam FZ1
 
Honda's own CBR1000RR makes 155.  Why should this bike make 33% less power than that?
 
Don't the Vtwin liquid cooled nekkid bikes from Ducati, Aprilia and KTM also make a lot more than the CB1000?
 
What is this, 1995?

Wow.  I'm not one to dismiss a bike that's been "detuned" but taking something that did make near 160 HP, bringing it down to 108 and STILL only has 64 ft/lbs seems criminal.  Yeah it's a pretty flat torque curve and it really kicks in early but still, that's kinda sad.

[stromgal]

Well, everyone knows you'll die if you try to take a nekkid bike over 100 mph!!1!

[Cvergi01]

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/6/1036/4/Motorcycle-Blog-Post/Honda-CB1000R-Horsepower-and-Torque-Dyno.aspx
 
 
What is this, 1995?

LOL, my 95 RF900 made 130 or so stock

[1KPerDay]

LOL, my 95 RF900 made 130 or so stock

Reallllllllyyy.....

[Cvergi01]

or



http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Suzuki_RF_900_RS2_1996.aspx

[atadaskew]

LOL, my 95 RF900 made 130 or so stock

Ok, maybe I shoulda said "What, is this 1985?"

 

[2DFlyer]

I'll take the torque curve if that's the trade off.  It looks more like the speed triple curve which is an absolute hoot to ride but Triumph did manage to squeeze another 20 ponies out of the 1050.  So will anyone riding within reasonable street limits ever notice it being down on power compared to other rides?

[Mookie]

I'll take the torque curve if that's the trade off.  It looks more like the speed triple curve which is an absolute hoot to ride but Triumph did manage to squeeze another 20 ponies out of the 1050.  So will anyone riding within reasonable street limits ever notice it being down on power compared to other rides?

I imagine you'd notice if you've ever ridden a CBR1000RR - it doesn't have a torque curve quite that flat but it's not exactly a slouch (78 lb/ft).

[DogBoy]

Well, everyone knows you'll die if you try to take a nekkid bike over 100 mph!!1!

Troof!

[mike in oregon]

Hmm.  The 2007 Triumph Speed Triple I used to own made about the exact hp and torque.  With and arrow exhaust and factory tune this brings it up to 120 rwhp and 70 ft.lbs at the rwl.  I imagine similar potential with a pipe and fi flash for the cb1000r.  Main difference is the torque comes full steam at 3 grand for the Speed 3 vs 5 grand for the Honda.  

I think the honda looks a lot better than the Kawasaki.  What I'd really like is a naked cross-plane engined naked fz1!

[miles]

Well, everyone knows you'll die if you try to take a nekkid bike over 100 mph!!1!

Yup.  It's true- it has happened to me hundreds of times.

[2DFlyer]

What I'd really like is a naked cross-plane engined naked fz1!

 Now right there could be a winner if Yamaha came up with styling to match the sound of that motor  

[Giaka]

Z1000 > CB1000R

[gritsngravy]

Which one of you Stat Sheet Commandos are actually in the market for a naked bike?  

[mike in oregon]

Busted!  I spent my tax refund on a new wood stove and install.  No new naked for me.  Instead, I'll just join in with comments and stats and  .....

[Mookie]

If Honda had come up with something significantly better than my Superduke I'd be all over it.  Instead they've come up with a significantly heavier, less powerful, and frankly, not as attractive bike.  I'm sure it's still a hoot to ride but I'd rather buy a rashed CBR1000RR and make a real streetfighter.

The new Tuono on the other hand sounds awesome.  Unfortunately it's going to be $$$$.  Woe is me, I'll stick the the SD for another year.  

[2DFlyer]

Which one of you Stat Sheet Commandos are actually in the market for a naked bike?  

In the market as in cash in fist ready to pull the trigger or in the market as in always locked and loaded just in case?  I'm content with what I've got for now but I'm always looking for the next one.

[atadaskew]

An interesting comparison:

Honda CB1000R - 107hp, 485lbs, $11K

Ducati Monster 1100 EVO - 95hp (rear wheel est), 373lbs, $12K

For $1K more the Duc includes ABS brakes and traction control.

The Honda may make 10 more hp, but it weighs over 100 lbs more!

[Roadscum]

An interesting comparison:

Honda CB1000R - 107hp, 485lbs, $11K

Ducati Monster 1100 EVO - 95hp (rear wheel est), 373lbs, $12K

For $1K more the Duc includes ABS brakes and traction control.

The Honda may make 10 more hp, but it weighs over 100 lbs more!

The maintenance cost of the Ducati will far surpass that of the Honda and I suspect the Honda will be a more comfy ride. Just trying to be fair and balanced.