ABS as Standard Equipment for All 2012 BMW's

[Rincewind]

Anticipating new EU regulations which may require all street bikes to have ABS, BMW has voluntarily made all of their bikes ABS equipped as Standard.

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2011/04/19/bmw-makes-abs-standard-on-all-2012-motorcycles/

[bomber]

I like the ABS on my bike (mostly) but I'd like ABS to either be an option, or defeatable.

This is not good news, IMO. Choices are good.

[scottzilla]

ABS is so non intrusive at this point it's silly to even argue about it.

[Rincewind]

ABS is so non intrusive at this point it's silly to even argue about it.

It's not non-intrusive to the bottomline price of the bike.  

[scottzilla]

It's not non-intrusive to the bottomline price of the bike.  

That's bullshit.  EVERYTHING costs money.  The auto industry crys about everything, yet all of the mandated junk they must add to cars over the years (Airbags, for example) have been added with minimal cost to the consumer.
ABS has gotten less and less expensive and the more it is used the cheaper it will get.  For every example you see of a company adding a grand to the price of an ABS equipped bike another company makes it standard on theirs.
 

[bomber]

That's bullshit.  EVERYTHING costs money.  The auto industry crys about everything, yet all of the mandated junk they must add to cars over the years (Airbags, for example) have been added with minimal cost to the consumer.
ABS has gotten less and less expensive and the more it is used the cheaper it will get.  For every example you see of a company adding a grand to the price of an ABS equipped bike another company makes it standard on theirs.
  

You bet it's less expensive as it becomes more common and mature -- which doesn't mean it doesn't impact the price, as you say . . . . . minimal cast on a per item basis adds up . . . .

[Snowbird]

That's bullshit.  EVERYTHING costs money.  The auto industry crys about everything, yet all of the mandated junk they must add to cars over the years (Airbags, for example) have been added with minimal cost to the consumer.ABS has gotten less and less expensive and the more it is used the cheaper it will get.  For every example you see of a company adding a grand to the price of an ABS equipped bike another company makes it standard on theirs.
  

Now, that is b.s.  

[scottzilla]

You bet it's less expensive as it becomes more common and mature -- which doesn't mean it doesn't impact the price, as you say . . . . . minimal cast on a per item basis adds up . . . .

You're joking?  
SEATBELTS add to the cost of an automobile.  Duh.  You are making a pretty dumb point Bomber.

[scottzilla]

Now, that is b.s.  

Your record of proving people wrong is horendous so I won't even ask.

Without using google, the federal gov't told the automakers they must add airbags to all cars by a certain year.  The automakers cried and talked the gov't in to extending the date an additional 2-3 years because they couldn't afford it.  Remember those horrible automatic seat belts?  Those are the resulting compromise the federal gov't and auto makers came up with.
2-3 years later airbags start appearing in all cars.  The cost, LIKE ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORMAL OPERATION OF RUNNING ANY BUSINESS was absorbed and became part of the expense associated with runing said business.
You people aren't naive enough to think corporations pass savings on the the consuner are you??  Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Do you know what the airlines industrys response to the FAA's procedure to run jets with more fuel in light of the recent TWA800 explosion off the coast of LI was??
WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!

[county]

Only dinosaurs are crying about ABS, face it, a bike without ABS is like a bike without brakes.  

Why don't you dinosaurs start a movement to bring back the kick starter while you are at it.

[Croak]

Well, the Luddites can prove they got some use out of a kickstarter.

[stevent]

the power assisted abs on R1150 RT's stunk, I didn't care for it too much. The abs on my GT and GS and even the FLHT I had is totally invisible untill you really drop the anchor, then the bike stops straight and true, no muss no fuss. I doubt I'd own a non abs vehicle around here car or bike. It rains too much not to have it if it's available.    

[Snowbird]

Your record of proving people wrong is horendous so I won't even ask.

 

And there are two "r"s in horrendous.

[scottzilla]

 

And there are two "r"s in horrendous.

Auto spell.
That's your retort, huh?  Point out one misspelled word?  
Pathetic dude.

[mugwump58]

See what happens when you disable your ABS spell check? Think of the children

[Thunderbox]

It's not non-intrusive to the bottomline price of the bike.  

That may be true but you still have choice.  Buy or not buy.  Plus any person with a little knowledge will be able to deactivate any ABS system.

[Rincewind]

That may be true but you still have choice.  Buy or not buy.  Plus any person with a little knowledge will be able to deactivate any ABS system.

A choice for now, but in 2-3 years I expect other companies to take up the flag and offer only ABS models.  IIRC, Honda said 10-years ago that they expected their whole range to be ABS by now (didn't happen yet).  I would bet that Ducati will be the next in line for universal ABS.

[cbsnbiker]

I like ABS. It's fine by me.  

[Lon]

Anticipating new EU regulations which may require all street bikes to have ABS, BMW has voluntarily made all of their bikes ABS equipped as Standard.

Last time I bought a BMW, it was because it had ABS.

One thing though... where's ABS going to "fit in" on a G450X ?  Enduro racers certainly don't want the weight; will this make the G450X less competitive?

[Roadscum]

Only dinosaurs are crying about ABS, face it, a bike without ABS is like a bike without brakes.  

Why don't you dinosaurs start a movement to bring back the kick starter while you are at it.

Thruth is a good rider can stop quicker without ABS then can be done with ABS during an urgent stop. Then there's the situation where there's a little sand or gravel in the road,  a good rider can stop a lot quicker without ABS. ABS is a crutch for those without good riding skills. check oiut some of the reviews in the magizine where they test stopping distance with ABS then with ABS you'lll see what I'm talking about. The difference on the Ducati MS was dramatic.  

Sure  the government always knows what's best for us. Next it will be seat belts on our bikes. More choice and less government mandates are a good thing don't ya think??    

NO name calling please.

 Regards, Paul