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« on: August 22, 2011, 06:25:41 AM »

First of all I was looking at the Bags-Connection Cargobag motorcycle luggage system but decided to get a cheaper version of the same style bag due to budget constraints. Maybe there's a lesson here  Shrug
Anyhoo, this is the bag: http://www.gearscanada.com/products/details/83/7/navigator-tail-bag.html

So after my little three day bike trip this past weekend I have a couple observations on the Gears Navigator Tail Bag.

The good: The mounting system is solid. When you “cinch” it down you're golden. I never had to retighten. The bag mounts so solidly that I mounted a large waterproof duffel directly to it with ROK straps. It never moved.

The bad: It holds a decent amount of stuff but it's a serious pain in the ass to put stuff in when mounted on bike. Say you pull clean clothes out for the day and put your dirty ones in, it's very difficult. If you take the bag off it's easy to pack and unpack but who wants to do that when you need to put your sweatshirt in.

One of the side zippers that holds small items, i.e. tennis shoes, gave up the ghost the second time I used it. The zipper on the opposite side worked perfect so it could just be an isolated incident.

The little bungees on it are useless as are the straps that are supplied to mount additional bags or camping gear to the top of it. The "snaps" on the straps can't handle any torque when cinching down gear and will unlatch. DO NOT USE THESE!

The metal buckles on the front mounting straps are very solid but even though they have small rubber protective flaps for the seat they will still dig into the seat. I used a little duct tape on the seat and that prevented any damage. Now the angle of everything when mounted on the Thruxton could mean that on another bike this isn’t a problem.

My conclusion is the bag is fine for a trip where you don't mind taking the bag off everynight or don't mind struggling with packing/unpacking while mounted on the bike. For me I think I'll look in another direction. I'll either look into another bag of that style (doubtful) or go the traditional saddlebag/duffel bag route (probable).
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 09:53:03 AM »

Nice review - too bad about the quality.  

That's a lot of packing for 3-days!   EEK!
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 10:24:51 AM »


That's a lot of packing for 3-days!   EEK!


 Lol The duffel had a tent, sleeping pad, sleeping bag, nice big comfy pillow (which is the first time I've ever brought a pillow) and rain gear. I didn't even bring my hair dryer, pilates equipment or mini fridge  Bigsmile
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 10:32:51 AM »

Oh you were camping.  Here I thought you were just high maintenance. Wink 

I'm used to seeing Orson's Thruxton with just a single tank bag, but I don't think he's carrying his house on his back.  I should keep my trap shut as I don't moto-camp either.   Embarassment

I look forward to the Ride Report!   :popcorn: :pokestick:
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 10:53:48 AM »


I look forward to the Ride Report!   :popcorn: :pokestick:


 rofl ..... maybe I'll post up some pics  Bigok
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 08:03:02 PM »

I bought the same bag back in 2009, here is what i wrote back then:

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Ok, christmas came late for me this year, and it arrived on what is possible the coldest day of this year. If it was warmer I might have spent more time trying to figure out how to attach it to my bike, being freezing cold and dark I just gave up for the night and took it off to go back into the house. But I do have some initial impressions.

It's huge, I can easily carry a weeks worth of clothes, with room to spare, and places to strap other stuff down on top of it. This bag is 52liters, with one large main compartment that is accessible from the top. The top flap has a mesh compartment that is perfect for carying smaller electronics, important documents, stuff like that. I think that I could fit anything that I might need for a very long trip in just the main compartment.

To each side of the main compartment are smaller and slightly less accessible compartments. Each side could easily hold a pair of sneakers or two. They are decent  size and shape, and look like they could be perfect to hold enough personal hygene items to satisfy the most demanding woman.

The top of the bag looks like when it's fully packed it would be fairly flat, and there are some straps on top so that you can strap down anything else you can think of. Another bag or a tent, sleeping bag, and air matress come to mind as the firts things to get strapped to it.

The bag also comes with a handy dandy carry handle and a shoulder strap to transport it easily at the end of the day. Bungee chords are all over this thing, and they look like they woul be perfect to use to either hold the bags contents from shifting or to hold something on the bag. There is a small pouch at the front of the bag that holds the rain cover. The rain cover looks like it would fit over the full bag perfectly, but I have my doubts as to how waterproof it would really make the bag, especially since I expect a decent amount of water to splash from the tires into the under side of the bag which faces the bike.

The attachment look very solid if properly done, but...

And to the negatives.

1 - I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out how to put it on the bike before I got too cold and gave up. The front straps look very easy to attach to the rear foot pegs. There is also a very robust velco strap that goes under the seat. But I couldn't find an easy spot to attach my rear straps. the instructions just say "a secure place" and teh picture shows them wrapped around turn signals. I have flushmounts, and even if I had stalk turn signals I dont think I would use them as an attachment point for a bag. I need to spend more time looking at the back of the bike so that I can figure out a good way of attaching the straps.
 
2 - The attachment straps use aluminum buckles, which look like they are strong enough to hold me down. The down side is that they are aluminum and can easily scratch or gouge the bodywork, there are nifty little pads that sit under the buckles, but they also look like they might easily slip out from under the buckle letting it rest directly against the plastic.

3 - The straps aren't permanently attached, to take the bag off the bike you would need to remove all four straps plus the seat strap. And it would also be very easy to leave them on the bike and then the strap get cought in a moving parts and torn apart.  

Other than those negative the bag looks huge, strong, and ready to go for a long ride with lots of gear. I will update this after I take the bag out for a ride, and after I figure out how to attach it to the tail.

From the right side, Plenty of room for me, and I could adjust it further back if I want to.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1003/1000681kt8.jpg

In this one you can see where I attached the front strap, the other side is the same. I would prefer to attach it a little further down, but it keeps up and I think it might come loose if i try to strap it anywhere but as tight as I can.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8102/1000680hr0.jpg

In this exquisite photo you can see how it sits on top of my seat, and the cigs are there for size comparrison. The bag is packed with a few days worth of dirty laundry. Plus there is room left. Also if you look closely you can see where the buckles just miss going under the seat, and where I have the rear straps routed.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6136/1000683os6.jpg

You can see in this photo how far off the buckles are away from my body work, my early fears of the buckles rubbing were not founded.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4521/1000689mh0.jpg

The picture under the seat. I tried to hook to the small hooks under the seat, I eventually decided that they are good for small trips holding down a light load, this is just too big and requires a sturdy tie down. This one also shows the large velcro strap that goes under the seat.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4373/1000691ix9.jpg

This last picture is where I wound up attaching the straps to, a cross brace between the two sides of the subframe. I dont know how strong the metal is that it is wrapped around, that bracket holds the rear lock in place, and I dont want that thing moving around which means that I wont be able to open the seat, like when I first bought the bike.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4899/1000690nc1.jpg





In addition, here is the bike fully loaded for almost 2 weeks on the road.





I havn't had any issues with anything breaking on it, however I can see if it gets over stuffed how it can easily bust a zipper
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 05:47:04 AM »



I havn't had any issues with anything breaking on it, however I can see if it gets over stuffed how it can easily bust a zipper



The zipper broke before I even loaded it so it's probably just an isolated incident and I should have called them up for a replacement. Maybe it's not too late  Shrug
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