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Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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In the continuing saga of Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery...
Performance stats for the Honda Goldwing:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/roadtests/122_1110_bmw_k1600gtl_vs_honda_gl1800_gold_wing/tech_specifications.html
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Corrected 1/4-mile: 12.12 sec. @ 120.23 mph
The Wing traps at 120.23mph?!!!
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Why is a motorcycle magazine testing a Goldwing?
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Quote from: sammyseaman on September 14, 2011, 12:48:55 PM
Why is a motorcycle magazine testing a Goldwing?
It was that or an FJR
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
It was that or an FJR
They decided to go with the more sporting of the vehicles.
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Quote from: sammyseaman on September 14, 2011, 12:48:55 PM
Why is a motorcycle magazine testing a Goldwing?
Seriously. Might as well start writing reviews of this year's new hybrid crossover minivans, too.
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938# and $28,500
Jebus! Why didn't they at least compare it to a Spyder?
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OK, I've rented a GL1800 before, on a visit to Vegas. Yes, it's a lumbering barge about town. But it's actually very much like riding a motorcycle out on the backroads - it went around curves and stuff by countersteering! And its accelerated rather well.
I can't say I'd never own one; there may come a time that I walk around in black socks and tennis shoes and wear a fanny pack as well. When you get to a point in life where you no longer care about how you look and just want to be comfortable, therein lies the Wing.
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So, no-one else finds the made up fantasy land performance numbers amusing?
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 01:01:21 PM
So, no-one else finds the made up fantasy land performance numbers amusing?
I find the bike amusing period. Really, at this point, get a convertable.
I have bad visions of some rider Fing around with all those damn buttons on this oversized beast and then plowing through some pedestrians or something trying to figure out which of the 100 or so dodads they should be pushing to turn up the stereo...
"OH!..there it is!!"...BAMMO!
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Quote from: Hambonee on September 14, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
I find the bike amusing period. Really, at this point, get a convertable.
I have bad visions of some rider Fing around with all those damn buttons on this oversized beast and then plowing through some pedestrians or
people waiting in line at the ice cream stand
while trying to figure out which of the 100 or so dodads they should be pushing to turn up the stereo...
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 01:01:21 PM
So, no-one else finds the made up fantasy land performance numbers amusing?
Maybe it's a typo?
You live in Cali, go ask them.
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What's wrong with the numbers?
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+1.
It's Motorcyclist, not Sport Rider. Get over it!
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Yeah, what is wrong with those numbers?
When I took one for a test spin, it trucked right along. Once you got it out of first gear, which is only good for parking lots, it bombed right along. Now we didn't do 1/4 mile runs or take it up to 180kph+ but my old V-Strom would do that speed in 4th gear.
100+ ft/lbs of torque gets you moving in a hurry....and very smoothly too.
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I'm 32 and I would love to have a Wing. It holds the same attraction as old man cars like the Detroit land barges of the 70's and 80's. Or a Buick Roadmaster. A 4300 pound vehicle with an LS1 and air suspension makes for an awesome cruiser.
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I don't see those numbers are too terribly off -- getting into the 12s isn't that big a deal, and a buck twenty, with that engine, isn't surprising
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Doesn't seem that much higher than tests I had seen for the last generation
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/119/802/Motorcycle-Article/2005-Honda-Goldwing.aspx
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Quote from: Justin on September 14, 2011, 02:51:25 PM
Doesn't seem that much higher than tests I had seen for the last generation
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/119/802/Motorcycle-Article/2005-Honda-Goldwing.aspx
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tripped through the quarter-mile in 12.40 at 109.4 mph.
109mph vs 120mph!!!
Plus the older generation made more power.
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Quote from: bomber on September 14, 2011, 02:05:49 PM
I don't see those numbers are too terribly off -- getting into the 12s isn't that big a deal, and a buck twenty, with that engine, isn't surprising
A 940lb bike with 95 hp is not going to go 120 in the 1/4
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I have ridden the new 2012 GL1800 and it can hustle very well. I'm very surprised it outperformed the BMW.
But i don't think that exit speed sounds right either. My Street Triple achieves about that same speed at around a second quicker. The Goldwing quarter mile speed should be 10-15mph less from other tests I've read.
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 03:01:19 PM
Yes it is:
109mph vs 120mph!!!
Plus the older generation made more power.
It's an 11 Mph difference? Who knows what factors came into play, such as rider, better aerodynamics etc. I do not find it that shocking. You're just jealous it traps faster than your Vespa.
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Why the 'wing hate?
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 03:01:19 PM
A 940lb bike with 95 hp is not going to go 120 in the 1/4
Its not all about peak hp. And trap speeds can vary greatly while elapsed time can be within a few tenths of a second.
Look at this review from your favorite magazine comparing the Kawasaki Vulcan 2000 (97hp /800 lbs). to the V-Rod and VTX.
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Kawasaki says the Vulcan will "accelerate harder in any one of its five gears than any other V-twin cruiser on the market." Hmmm. Yes, it makes more torque on our impartial rear-wheel dyno (121.4 foot pounds at 3250 rpm) than any other bike we've tested, V-twin or not. But because of its low-revving nature, it makes just 96.8 rear-wheel horsepower at its 5000-rpm peak. And because it's so hard to run it that fast because of the need to upshift 250 revs later, we usually found ourselves working around 3000 rpm. How much power does it make at 3000 rpm? Approximately 70 horsepower--about as much as a good-running Suzuki SV650 at its peak. Add the Vulcan's massive, uh, mass--its wet weight is 820 pounds--and you've got a pretty routine number of Clydesdales pulling a very large beer wagon.
A Harley-Davison V-Rod, with just 1130cc of displacement, shreds it in the quarter-mile: the V-Rod running 11.31 seconds at 114.95 mph vs. the Vulcan's 12.43-second, 104.2-mph performance. The V-Rod also beats it in a top-gear roll-on from 60 to 80 mph, taking 4.05 seconds vs. the Vulcan's 4.10 seconds. Even Honda's VTX beats the Vulcan in the quarter-mile, at 12.21 seconds and 107.48 mph--and hangs right with it in the top-gear 60--80 roll-on, at 4.12 seconds, just 0.02 seconds behind.
And if you really want to put the size-is-all-that-matters concept into perspective, consider this: It's no cruiser, but the aforementioned SV650, a twin with less than a third of the Vulcan's displacement, runs just about even in the quarter-mile, 12.53 seconds at 104.76 mph.
Read more:
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Quote from: DredheadV2.0 on September 14, 2011, 12:59:19 PM
When you get to a point in life where you no longer care about how you look and just want to be comfortable, therein lies the Wing.
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 01:01:21 PM
So, no-one else finds the made up fantasy land performance numbers amusing?
they're not all that different from the fantasy of 99.99% of STNers opinions of their own riding abilities.
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Quote from: DogBoy on September 14, 2011, 03:18:06 PM
Its not all about peak hp. And trap speeds can vary greatly while elapsed time can be within a few tenths of a second.
Yes, but trap speed *should* align very consistently with peak HP, regardless of ET. And it doesn't here, in comparison with the BMW. One of those looks wrong.
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Quote from: kevin_stevens on September 14, 2011, 03:31:36 PM
Yes, but trap speed *should* align very consistently with peak HP, regardless of ET. And it doesn't here, in comparison with the BMW. One of those looks wrong.
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Quote from: Justin on September 14, 2011, 03:04:34 PM
You're just jealous it traps faster than your Vespa.
Mine is tuned.
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Tad are you saying the 2012 Goldwing is not capable of the time or the speed or both?
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Keep in mind in Cali Volvos do 170 mph.
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Most specs list the mid 12s as the ET but that trap speed is a little off. Either way its doesn't matter, for what it is that monster is pretty darn fast.
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Keep in mind in Cali Volvos do 170 mph.
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Quote from: scottzilla on September 14, 2011, 03:46:17 PM
Keep in mind in Cali Volvos do 170 mph.
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/11q3/2012_volvo_s60_r-design-first_drive_review
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Maybe it was a typo and was supposed to be 102.
This from their last writeup in 2007.
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Jumping from 0-60 in 4.4 seconds, the 1800 knocks back a quarter-mile in 12.78 seconds at 103.3 mph.
Read more:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/escape/motorcycles/122_0102_honda_gl1800_gold_wing/index.html#ixzz1XyEee4zP
Oh, the huge manatee!!!
BTW my 2001 will do an indicated 137mph with the screen in the lower position, at 6000 feet. Under strict closed-course test conditions, of course.
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Quote from: 1KPerDay on September 14, 2011, 04:00:21 PM
Maybe it was a typo and was supposed to be 102.
Highly paid motorcycle magazine staffers aren't allowed typographic errors. Especially one of this magnitude.
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Quote from: Rincewind on September 14, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
I have ridden the new 2012 GL1800 and it can hustle very well. I'm very surprised it outperformed the BMW.
If you read the article, you can see where they state the BMW traction control system was hampering hard launches. That would account for the GW beating the BMW in the 1/4.
All that info aside, I have a couple friends with GWs and for a big touring rig they get along quite well in the twisties. Some like to knock the GWs, but they are the pinicale (maybe eclipsed by the BMW) touring machine. They are designed to eat up the miles in comfort. Just like a Harley is designed.............oh wait bad example!
Me, I would like to have one, but not as a primary bike. I would like it for what it is made for. Touring in comfort. Some say get a cage at this point, the GW is still a bike and riding (when possible) is ALWAYS better than caging. Given the option I would rather tour on a scooter than cage it. How long would a cross country trip take on a Zuma 50?
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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September 14, 2011, 04:32:16 PM »
Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 12:46:17 PM
In the continuing saga of Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery...
Performance stats for the Honda Goldwing:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/roadtests/122_1110_bmw_k1600gtl_vs_honda_gl1800_gold_wing/tech_specifications.html
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Corrected 1/4-mile: 12.12 sec. @ 120.23 mph
The Wing traps at 120.23mph?!!!
You are quoting a 'corrected' statistic. Do you know how Motorcyclist corrects their times/speeds?
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Quote from: Dan K on September 14, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
The Wing traps at 120.23mph?!!!
You are quoting a 'corrected' statistic. Do you know how Motorcyclist corrects their times/speeds?
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: Hambonee on September 14, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
...Really, at this point, get a convertable.
Actually, I've been wondering if I could shoehorn a 'Wing engine into my convertible...
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 14, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
It was that or an FJR
So they picked the one that was most like a motorcycle?
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: county on September 14, 2011, 06:41:05 PM
So they picked the one that was most like a motorcycle?
I thought you were ignoring my alley-oop..
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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September 15, 2011, 12:55:21 PM »
Someone should check how they "correct" the numbers. I read somewhere in the magazine in the last few months an explanation of how they corrected the numbers on the quarter mile and while I can't remember what it said, I do remember thinking it was a bit out there.
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: Testcase on September 14, 2011, 03:10:35 PM
Why the 'wing hate?
Somebody wanna explain STN to him? I don't have the energy
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September 15, 2011, 01:03:32 PM »
The correction is different for each bike. In this case, they adjust the numbers after determining how much drag is caused by the Member's Only jackets and velcro® shoes worn by 'Wing riders.
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Quote from: DogBoy on September 15, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
The correction is different for each bike. In this case, they adjust the numbers after determining how much drag is caused by the Member's Only jackets and velcro® shoes worn by 'Wing riders.
Oh no you di'int!
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: DogBoy on September 15, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
The correction is different for each bike. In this case, they adjust the numbers after determining how much drag is caused by the Member's Only jackets and velcro® shoes worn by 'Wing riders.
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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September 15, 2011, 04:01:40 PM »
Quote from: sammyseaman on September 15, 2011, 01:01:36 PM
"why the "Wing" hate?
Somebody wanna explain STN to him? I don't have the energy
I'll give it a shot. To fully appreciate STN'r criticism, we have to use examples. I'm told in California prisons gang leaders use a hat to put in pieces of paper with the names of rivals and fellow members who are due for punishment and retribution. Names are pulled from the hat and the sentence is assigned based on the mood of the leader. We have the same system here in the verbal sense. No real hat of course, but the poster can choose from categories such as topic, person, place, or thing. In this case the poster went with an on and off again favorite of Motorcycle Mag with Wing as the "thing". As STN dog-piles go, this was a grade school girl pillow fight. Couple of weeks ago it was Cops (always a favorite), and other long standing oldies but goodies include HD, HD riders, Squids, Soccer Moms in MiniVans or SUV's, and virtually anyone who owns or rides or uses anything different from the OP.
Let's have a hypothetical post to expand the idea. Subject: All cops are asshats!
Message: "Last week I got written up for 50 over in a school zone and for doing a Stoppie that ended 6 inches from the crossing guard who was walking a bunch of 1st graders through the crosswalk. The brats were screaming, the crossing guard cussing, and the nazi cop wouldn't listen to reason. Threatened to impound my bike. What an asshat."
Analysis: The OP got a couple of targets right off the bat, cop and whiny public for persons, school (or construction) zone for place, but he left out topic and thing.
Follow up Post: "Ya, I was picking my kid up at that school once and watched a Harley rider with his stereo blaring and pipes farting, dressed like one of the Village People with his legs splayed on the highway pegs like he was at a gang bang in a gay bathhouse roar right past that cop and he didn't do nothing. Pussy."
Analysis: This more experienced STN'r skillfully added Harley's, Harley riders and their dress, the ever favorite Village People comparison with a gay sex analogy, and re-insulted the cop. Not bad.
You get the idea. Please note that STN has a number of absolute Zen Masters at the art of insult who could have easily easily expounded on all the above and still deftly weave in a BMW final drive failure, random praise for the FJR, and pose the question "do you carry a loaded Glock when speeding through a school zone like I do?"
Admittedly, the quality and content of insult and criticism here at STN has fallen off somewhat lately. I attribute that to the transition from Summer to Fall riding season and the poor economy. However, I have deep faith in my fellow STN brothers and sisters, and as the upcoming Winter cages the tigers I fully expect to see copious high quality blood on the verbal killing floor.
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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September 15, 2011, 04:12:25 PM »
Wow did he nail it or what?
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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September 15, 2011, 06:10:43 PM »
Quote from: DogBoy on September 14, 2011, 03:45:24 PM
Tad are you saying the 2012 Goldwing is not capable of the time or the speed or both?
The 2012 Wing has manipulated time, and therefore acceleration, which was recorded as increased speed. It has done this by implementation of mass large enough to slow the Earth's rotational speed thereby causing a localized space-time disruption. Since the Wing slowed the Earth, it appears faster to those not in the localized space-time disruption. Hence the seemingly unbelievable time and speed values.
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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September 15, 2011, 06:18:17 PM »
Quote from: 1KPerDay on September 14, 2011, 04:00:21 PM
Maybe it was a typo and was supposed to be 102.
I'm late the party
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, but Motorcycle Consumer News tested the Goldwing in their September issue and came up with 12.7 seconds at 100.89 mph.
The K1600GTL tested a full second faster, btw....
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: chilipeppernorm on September 15, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
I'll give it a shot. To fully appreciate STN'r criticism, we have to use examples. I'm told in California prisons gang leaders use a hat to put in pieces of paper with the names of rivals and fellow members who are due for punishment and retribution. Names are pulled from the hat and the sentence is assigned based on the mood of the leader. We have the same system here in the verbal sense. No real hat of course, but the poster can choose from categories such as topic, person, place, or thing. In this case the poster went with an on and off again favorite of Motorcycle Mag with Wing as the "thing". As STN dog-piles go, this was a grade school girl pillow fight. Couple of weeks ago it was Cops (always a favorite), and other long standing oldies but goodies include HD, HD riders, Squids, Soccer Moms in MiniVans or SUV's, and virtually anyone who owns or rides or uses anything different from the OP.
Let's have a hypothetical post to expand the idea. Subject: All cops are asshats!
Message: "Last week I got written up for 50 over in a school zone and for doing a Stoppie that ended 6 inches from the crossing guard who was walking a bunch of 1st graders through the crosswalk. The brats were screaming, the crossing guard cussing, and the nazi cop wouldn't listen to reason. Threatened to impound my bike. What an asshat."
Analysis: The OP got a couple of targets right off the bat, cop and whiny public for persons, school (or construction) zone for place, but he left out topic and thing.
Follow up Post: "Ya, I was picking my kid up at that school once and watched a Harley rider with his stereo blaring and pipes farting, dressed like one of the Village People with his legs splayed on the highway pegs like he was at a gang bang in a gay bathhouse roar right past that cop and he didn't do nothing. Pussy."
Analysis: This more experienced STN'r skillfully added Harley's, Harley riders and their dress, the ever favorite Village People comparison with a gay sex analogy, and re-insulted the cop. Not bad.
You get the idea. Please note that STN has a number of absolute Zen Masters at the art of insult who could have easily easily expounded on all the above and still deftly weave in a BMW final drive failure, random praise for the FJR, and pose the question "do you carry a loaded Glock when speeding through a school zone like I do?"
Admittedly, the quality and content of insult and criticism here at STN has fallen off somewhat lately. I attribute that to the transition from Summer to Fall riding season and the poor economy. However, I have deep faith in my fellow STN brothers and sisters, and as the upcoming Winter cages the tigers I fully expect to see copious high quality blood on the verbal killing floor.
To those new to STN, read and learn Grasshopper
Bravo, my friend, bravo.
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Why all the drama over numbers?
This morning I lit my pipe with a fine, mild tobacco and rode my airhead RS into work in the cool, fall air. On arriving, I tapped out the tobacco and went in to review charts, look at the stock market while enjoying a nice cup of joe.
Preliminary studies show quarter mile times are inversely related to penis size...
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Quote from: photomd on September 16, 2011, 06:24:36 AM
Preliminary studies show quarter mile times are inversely related to penis size...
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Quote from: sammyseaman on September 15, 2011, 01:01:36 PM
Somebody wanna explain STN to him? I don't have the energy
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Quote from: photomd on September 16, 2011, 06:24:36 AM
Why all the drama over numbers?
This morning I lit my pipe with a fine, mild tobacco and rode my airhead RS into work in the cool, fall air. On arriving, I tapped out the tobacco and went in to review charts, look at the stock market while enjoying a nice cup of joe.
Preliminary studies show quarter mile times are inversely related to penis size...
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September 16, 2011, 07:38:47 AM »
Quote from: photomd on September 16, 2011, 06:24:36 AM
Why all the drama over numbers?
This morning I lit my pipe with a fine, mild tobacco and rode my airhead RS into work in the cool, fall air. On arriving, I tapped out the tobacco and went in to review charts, look at the stock market while enjoying a nice cup of joe.
Preliminary studies show quarter mile times are inversely related to penis size...
So you didn't change out of your slippers after getting off the bike and before going into work?
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: the frenchman on September 16, 2011, 08:01:59 AM
I'd still ride the new wing. I'd still have fun on it. I'd still lean the shit out of it and use that throttle. I'd still be on a bike. I'd still be smiling like a fool when I arrived. And I'd still ride circles around people on way better bikes who don't understand how to use 'em.
I say live and let live. It's a fine machine, big and heavy and comfortable as it is.
This post could apply to the FJR as well....
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Quote from: the frenchman on September 16, 2011, 08:01:59 AM
I'd still ride the new wing. I'd still have fun on it. I'd still lean the shit out of it and use that throttle. I'd still be on a bike. I'd still be smiling like a fool when I arrived. And I'd still ride circles around people on way better bikes who don't understand how to use 'em.
I say live and let live. It's a fine machine, big and heavy and comfortable as it is.
I don't know if you belong here
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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Quote from: tthompsr on September 15, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Wow did he nail it or what?
I'll say!
Trying to fit in here, I usually don't read posts with more than one or two short sentences, but I actually read that whole post, and enjoyed it!
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I miss my Falco. It did 600mph.
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Quote from: scottzilla on September 16, 2011, 11:12:03 AM
I miss my Falco. It did 600mph.
The Honda CT70 that I learned to ride went a solid 120 mph beacause.... well, because it was a Honda
Feckin' thing flew.
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Quote from: photomd on September 16, 2011, 06:24:36 AM
Preliminary studies show quarter mile times are inversely related to penis size...
And now you know why I ride scooters.
Posted on: September 16, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
Quote from: DogBoy on September 15, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
The correction is different for each bike. In this case, they adjust the numbers after determining how much drag is caused by the Member's Only jackets and velcro® shoes worn by 'Wing riders.
Weird, I thought they also corrected for the stuffed animal bungeed onto the luggage rack.
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Re: Motorcyclist Magazine douchebaggery - the Goldwing
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I have a black bear and his name is Humphrey on my 'Wing. It's all good, ride whatever you feel meets your needs and desires.
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September 16, 2011, 12:45:09 PM »
Quote from: CBOrwig on September 16, 2011, 12:34:41 PM
I have a black bear and his name is Humphrey on my 'Wing. It's all good,
ride whatever you feel meets your needs and desires.
That kind of talk will not be accepted around here, mister
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 16, 2011, 12:14:13 PM
Weird, I thought they also corrected for the stuffed animal bungeed onto the luggage rack.
This could take an ugly turn if we discuss the average 'Wing pillion's effect on acceleration.
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Quote from: DogBoy on September 16, 2011, 12:49:25 PM
This could take an ugly turn if we discuss the average 'Wing pillion's effect on acceleration.
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Quote from: CBOrwig on September 16, 2011, 12:34:41 PM
I have a black bear and his name is Humphrey on my 'Wing.
What made you pick the bear over one of those stuffed monkeys that looks like it is waving at you because its arm is velcroed to the CB antenna?
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Quote from: sammyseaman on September 16, 2011, 12:54:57 PM
I just can't stand the thought of this trivial thread not going as far as the trivial kickstand thread. Besides, no one has posted that $&*!ing video of Yellow Wolf yet.
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September 16, 2011, 02:06:28 PM »
Quote from: DogBoy on September 16, 2011, 01:32:39 PM
I just can't stand the thought of this trivial thread not going as far as the trivial kickstand thread.
The Goldwing 1800 has a really nice red kickstand warning light on the dashboard.
Remember the time when lots of bikes had that?
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September 16, 2011, 02:15:59 PM »
Quote from: atadaskew on September 16, 2011, 02:06:28 PM
Remember the time when lots of bikes had that?
No
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September 16, 2011, 02:31:59 PM »
Bikes have dashboards?
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September 16, 2011, 03:21:37 PM »
Quote from: DogBoy on September 16, 2011, 02:31:59 PM
Bikes have dashboards?
I shoud re-state that.
Goldwings, FJRs, VFRs...
Posted on: September 16, 2011, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: county on September 16, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
No
Weird, seeing that your CBR1100XX has one.
It is to the left of the speedo, under the high beam and turn signal lights.
On the dashboard.
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September 16, 2011, 04:53:03 PM »
Both of my bikes have a sidestand indicator
Go Italian or go home!
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Quote from: Kootenanny on September 14, 2011, 06:15:39 PM
Actually, I've been wondering if I could shoehorn a 'Wing engine into my convertible...
nah, RX-7 engine, a friends got one in his Spitfire ...
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Quote from: falconati on September 16, 2011, 04:53:03 PM
Both of my bikes have a sidestand indicator
Go Italian or go home!
My Italian bike has the perfect side stand. It stays down until you start the bike, then, WHAM! It snaps up. Only the superior engineering of a Guzzi could do that.
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Quote from: atadaskew on September 16, 2011, 03:21:37 PM
Weird, seeing that your CBR1100XX has one.
It is to the left of the speedo, under the high beam and turn signal lights.
On the dashboard.
No it isn't, at least not mine. You are probably thinking of your Vespa
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September 17, 2011, 12:11:28 PM »
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
Unfortunately, at least one of these guys is dead. Gold Wing related? Hmmmm.
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September 18, 2011, 08:32:50 AM »
I`m surprised the car tire thing on the Goldwing has not been mentioned yet . I`ve heard handling actually improves with it .
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Quote from: tomek on September 18, 2011, 08:32:50 AM
I`m surprised the car tire thing on the Goldwing has not been mentioned yet . I`ve heard handling actually improves with it .
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Quote from: sammyseaman on September 18, 2011, 08:44:50 AM
Oh , btw , they also use rear tire flipped backwards on the front . I shit you not . Google it .
It further improves handling .
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September 18, 2011, 08:58:22 PM »
Quote from: county on September 17, 2011, 09:15:55 AM
No it isn't, at least not mine. You are probably thinking of your Vespa
Vespas don't have side stands.
So, no.
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September 18, 2011, 09:53:36 PM »
Quote from: tomek on September 18, 2011, 08:53:04 AM
It further improves handling, if by handling you mean going straight.
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September 19, 2011, 08:45:20 AM »
Atadaskew, I like bears.
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Reply #82 on:
September 19, 2011, 08:57:22 AM »
To extend the love for the new GW's, here are some pics of my dad's from a trip we did this summer. Nevermind the Triumph that is in the way on some of the pics.
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September 19, 2011, 09:01:16 AM »
All I see is a sweet Street Triple R.
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September 19, 2011, 09:29:28 AM »
Thanks DogBoy.
These two together is like a study in contrasts.
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September 19, 2011, 11:31:08 AM »
It's actually not too hideous in white. I still don't get the stupid silver panels.
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September 19, 2011, 11:39:55 AM »
I will guarantee you he was more comfy on that big Wing than you on the Strip.
I love the white Wing.
I tell you what I've never ridden one but I sat on an '07, that thing felt lighter and more balanced than my C10 anyday. I'm sure it's just the low C O G.
I could flatfoot that bike no problem with a little bend in my knees to boot.
Damn pretty bike, just too many fucking gizmos and buttons.
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September 19, 2011, 12:27:35 PM »
Quote from: ConPilot1 on September 19, 2011, 11:39:55 AM
I will guarantee you he was more comfy on that big Wing than you on the Strip.
While the Wing is more PLUSH generally - like a mobile sofa - it has annoying wind buffeting to me, regardless of screen height. And it generally takes more effort to manhandle around at low speeds (thank god for the electric reverse). Plus while it's easy to corner, it's also quick to drag parts.
Does all that weight and bike limitations make ME more comfortable riding it - NO. Riding his Wings drives me batty after awhile. I was more comfortable on my Striple, and he was more comfortable on his Wing - thank you very much!
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Quote from: Rincewind on September 19, 2011, 08:57:22 AM
To extend the love for the new GW's, here are some pics of my dad's from a trip we did this summer. Nevermind the Triumph that is in the way on some of the pics.
Looks like something Mr StayPuft would ride
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You guys and your how many angels on a pinhead tripe. That woman rode circles around the lot of you while you are stuck head-down posting on the internet. Riding in the Smokies then flat-hatting to CA in 3 days. What Starbucks did you ride to that week?
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Just in time
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Quote from: dduelin on September 28, 2011, 06:07:38 PM
You guys and your how many angels on a pinhead tripe. That woman rode circles around the lot of you while you are stuck head-down posting on the internet. Riding in the Smokies then flat-hatting to CA in 3 days. What Starbucks did you ride to that week?
Can somebody translate what the noob is saying?
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Quote from: sammyseaman on September 29, 2011, 06:56:59 AM
Can somebody translate what the noob is saying?
I think he's in the middle of a conversation on the wrong forum.
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Peyote is a hell of a drug
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Quote from: 1KPerDay on September 29, 2011, 11:17:22 AM
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Quote from: sammyseaman on September 29, 2011, 06:56:59 AM
Can somebody translate what the noob is saying?
The Q you ask reveals your ignorance of both religion, history, literature, and Jamie Elvidge. I spoke to her on May 21 this year at the Exxon at the TN end of the Cherohala. She was filling up the GW and the GTL was at the other pump. They were finishing up the comparison of the two bikes and said might be surprised when I read it. The next day she lit out for CA to return home. During that time you banged out 13 posts on this forum and did precious little riding.
Does that clear things up for you? You will have to Google the how many angels on a pinhead thing for yourself.
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September 29, 2011, 07:30:40 PM »
I like sign on to STN for a little R&R after I go WFO on my ZX for a few hours on the back roads of CA... or something.
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Quote from: Big D on September 29, 2011, 07:30:40 PM
I like sign on to STN for a little R&R after I go WFO on my ZX for a few hours on the back roads of CA... or something.
Yo Big D. Central Cali? Where abouts? I was stationed at Vandyland and lived in both Lompoc and Santa Maria.
Some really fantastic riding out there. I miss the vineyards, canyon roads and especially the stretch between Lompoc and Santa Barbara behind the mountains
down through the Santa Ynez valley.
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Quote from: dduelin on September 29, 2011, 06:56:10 PM
...Jamie Elvidge. I spoke to her on May 21
You shoulda asked her how they got the Wing to break the 1/4 mile at 120mph.
And if she's still bitter at bar sluts (her words) throwing themselves at her ex.
Man that dood was great in Rip Tide...
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Quote from: ConPilot1 on September 30, 2011, 10:28:51 AM
Yo Big D. Central Cali? Where abouts? I was stationed at Vandyland and lived in both Lompoc and Santa Maria.
Some really fantastic riding out there. I miss the vineyards, canyon roads and especially the stretch between Lompoc and Santa Barbara behind the mountains
down through the Santa Ynez valley.
Live in Santa Cruz, work in San Jose. Yeah, some pretty nice roads out this away.
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