Sport tourer or Sportbike w/ bags?

[jesse v]

Sportbike (1) means race-rep, i.e. something with clip-ons, or is otherwise more track-suitable than street-suitable.  Possibly some comfort mods.  Hang on for a wild trip!

Standard (2) means at least semi-upright seating position, naked or faired.  Comfort mods allowed.  Hooliganism also allowed.  Keepin it wild while keepin it real!

Dedicated sport-tourers (3)... you know what those are.  I ain't got time to mess with freakin bags!  Also, have you seen my baseball cap?

[Rincewind]

I say - ride what you brung!  Which, in my case, is - standard style.  

[bomber]

^ that -- machs nichts WHAT you ride . . it is THAT you ride ;-}

[Hunter]

<-------   Sport bike with soft bags,please.

My ZX-9 has multiple 4 - 500 mile days under it's belt where every mile was in the twistys and was an absolute blast to ride.

My Thruxton, older model with clip-ons, just completed a ride from Ogden,UT up to the Tetons, down through Moab, zipping across New Mexico, Texas panhandle & Oklahoma to the Ozarks followed by a dogleg drop down to Birmingham for good BBQ and the Barber Museum. The interstate burn from Al to SC wasn't much fun but it was a last minute choice made to avoid rain.

Route planning with a map can be a lot of fun and you don't cramp up if your constantly moving on the bike hanging off.

Why 'Wing it if you can actually ride it.  

[Dan K]

Why not buy one of each?

[Justin]

Why not buy one of each?

Because I am poor

[Dan K]

Because I am poor

You don't need two NEW bikes - bargain used sport tourers and sport bikes are available everywhere.  

You personally have an '08 Busa and an XX.  You could easily trade the Busa for a few years older super sport and a dedicated sport tourer and keep the XX.  Instead you have 2 similar bikes.  Used - it's what makes otherwise unaffordable luxuries available to the masses.

- Dan

[nater]

Why not buy one of each?

Tires x2, oil changes x2, valve adjustments x2, brakes x2, chain and sprockets x2, $$$ x2, and only one can be ridden at a time anyway.  I had 3 bikes in the past, decided that 3 was too much work and too much money, so I kept my favorite and sold the other two.  I don't miss the other two at all.  

[Justin]

You don't need two NEW bikes - bargain used sport tourers and sport bikes are available everywhere.  

You personally have an '08 Busa and an XX.  You could easily trade the Busa for a few years older super sport and a dedicated sport tourer and keep the XX.  Instead you have 2 similar bikes.  Used - it's what makes otherwise unaffordable luxuries available to the masses.

- Dan

Actually I don't - my profile just needed to be updated - I just can't justify two bikes currently. Granted, if I had more disposable income I would.

[Dan K]

Actually I don't - my profile just needed to be updated - I just can't justify two bikes currently. Granted, if I had more disposable income I would.

 I hear ya.  Tires x 2, yes, but you ride them both so technically, you are replacing tires less often.  

POint I'm making is that by riding less expensive bikes, you can own 2 instead of one nice one.  I have never purchased a 'new' bike from a dealer, and don't plan to unless I win the lottery.

- Dan

[Justin]

I have never purchased a 'new' bike from a dealer, and don't plan to unless I win the lottery.

- Dan

Same here - got the Busa used at a steal in 2009, 9k miles for $8300, already had full system, pc and dyno tuned - and it does everything I need it to do, except offroad  

[jesse v]

Why not buy one of each?

Well, yeah...  

[jesse v]

I suppose as the OP I should have some input... I voted standard w/ bags.  I have an SV1000S with an LSL superbike bar conversion setup, so it's somewhere between sport and standard.  I think that ideally I'd like something more to the standard end of spectrum, like a z1000 or Ninja 1000.  I still need to maintain the hooligan factor  

[Dan K]

Something about the Ninja 1000 intrigues me.  I still dream of the K1300S, but I have a feeling I'll be on the Sprint for quite some time.  Still making it just right.

- Dan

[Squareman357]

Hmm....I voted Sport-Bike with bags, although by the OPs given definition, I don't really have a "sport  bike".  It's not really a track weapon, a bit too large for that.  So what would you classify mine as?

[ray916mn]

Sportbike with bags, although the Ninja 1000 is a great bike.

The longer and straighter the trip, the better the Ninja 1000 is, but I prefer longer twistier trips. If could only get hard bags for the CBR....

[sleazy rider]

Currently on a sportbike, but will be adding a sport-Touring version to the garage come spring.  I'm getting the wife involved again.  At her *cough*_{advanced age}*cough*, she wants nothing to do with the rear seat on my Daytona.   

[Justin]

Sportbike with bags, although the Ninja 1000 is a great bike.

The longer and straighter the trip, the better the Ninja 1000 is, but I prefer longer twistier trips. If could only get hard bags for the CBR....

Was going to suggest the Blaze bags from twisted throttle - http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/817/ - but it does no look like they even make those for your bike yet

Seem to be a good compromise for sportbikes.

[ray916mn]

Was going to suggest the Blaze bags from twisted throttle - http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/817/ - but it does no look like they even make those for your bike yet

Seem to be a good compromise for sportbikes.

The SW-Motech Blaze and Givi Easylock bags both look nice. Unfortunately neither are available for the CBR1KRR. On long trips I typically ride in a Stich or Darien setup, waterproof boots and have a pair of waterproof gloves, so having the V35s on the Ninja is really nice. They make it easy to ignore rain. Unfortunately neither the Blaze nor the Easylock bags are waterproof.

[jesse v]

Hmm....I voted Sport-Bike with bags, although by the OPs given definition, I don't really have a "sport  bike".  It's not really a track weapon, a bit too large for that.  So what would you classify mine as?

Since you voted sportbike, I'll classify it as a sportbike.  

Is muscle-sport-bike a category?  

[jesse v]

Something about the Ninja 1000 intrigues me.  I still dream of the K1300S, but I have a feeling I'll be on the Sprint for quite some time.  Still making it just right.

- Dan

Oooo the sprint... I would love to test ride one of those.

[Squareman357]

Since you voted sportbike, I'll classify it as a sportbike.  

Is muscle-sport-bike a category?  

Yes...or Hyper-Sport...

[YoDoc]

03 Concours, baby. Amazing! The only thing I want that isn't an 03 Connie is a brand new Connie. Well, I'd probably take a brand new GS1200 Adventure, but that's a whole other beast, aint it?

[Hotbrakes]

Standard with bags.  Fun, refined performance, and powerful.  

[RSims]

Probably one's age is the determining factor.

[rollnhot]

My FJR is out of the box ST put on the top box and your good for two up travel. FZ1 gets tank bag and tail bag ready to roll, good for a few days solo travel. Longer if you hit a laundramat along the way.

[ride200mi]

I'm thinking this will work....





Yah, the pegs a scrapping!!!

[neerbeer]

#2 for me.

[Kneescrubber]

I'm kinda likin' your definition of Sportbike.

Sportbike (1) means race-rep, i.e. something with clip-ons, or is otherwise more track-suitable than street-suitable.  Possibly some comfort mods.  Hang on for a wild trip!

[CanadianBird]

BlackBird with 3 Givi hard bags. 180,000 kms of mostly touring. Longest, Van. to Toronto as far south as Jackson Wy through west Yellowstone. Over to Cody and onto Chief Josheph and over Beartooth. etc, ect.

[Mike-H]

One of everything

[X1Glider]

Sportbike with bags.  More sport than tour.  From BMW R1100S to my current Ninja 1000.  Definitely is a sportbike...just not a race replica.  Too bad to the Give V35 side cases are not waterproof.  Flimsy crap IMO.

[Squareman357]

...Too bad to the Give V35 side cases are not waterproof.  Flimsy crap IMO.

I have Givi V35s on my ZX-14. They've been through total frog stranglers with nary a hint of water inside.  I'm curious what happened with yours.

[falcon4]

How does the KTM SMT fit here? I put dedicated sport tourer, but probably more like sport bike with bags?
Not really a sport bike either though.

[yotes65]

I just can't justify two bikes currently. Granted, if I had more disposable income I would.

having two bikes always allows me to ride... always seems to be an issue with one of them.  

[Justin]

having two bikes always allows me to ride... always seems to be an issue with one of them.  

Well, luckily mine is as reliable as a stone. Have not had a single problem in close to 50k miles, knock on wood.

[gradus]

How does the KTM SMT fit here? I put dedicated sport tourer, but probably more like sport bike with bags?
Not really a sport bike either though.

It's a standard with bags.

[Cruzman]

Standard with bags here.   It is a working solution so why mess with it.
Although I've been wanting to try and FJR  and the Sprint.  I figure the sprint is pretty much more of what I got, and I think the FJR might be a good bike to keep an eye out for...  
I took a test drive on the Connie and almost dumped it. (Slid the front tire a little taking a hard right hander.)  Seemed to have too much weight on the front wheel, or piss poor tires.  But I loved everything else...

[Kramer]

[Frankienuckles]

fuzzy phone pic.

[ChasingChaos]

Kramer is that yours for sale?  I used to have an ST2 and loved it. I've always thought of getting an ST4s one day.

[bassjones]

Mine's a 'tweener.... VFR isn't really a track sort of bike - too heavy and not enough cornering clearance or hard acceleration for that, bit it really isn't what one would consider a dedicated ST bike either - no hard bags (they are an option or an aftermarket add on though), and I just have a Givi top case on mine.

But for me, it's the best bike for now. Next one will probably be one of the big boys though.

[Dave.TX]

Standard with bags. Givi V35's and a MadStad adjustable windshield. All are removable in a few minutes.


BTW, on "fuzzy cell phone pics", clean off the fingerprints from the camera lens before taking your pics.

[Dan]

I had a FireBlade until recently and did tens of thousands of touting miles on it.  (I bought the bike before I really understood what I wanted from a bike).  

I hated using soft luggage.  There is always the security concern when stopped anywhere, and I lost count of how many times I was left in the rain untangling bungees and rain covers when the lads with hard luggage had unclipped it and buggered off in to the warm.  

For me, hard luggage is the way to go.  

[jsanford]

This was a hard poll--I take the Duc to Borscht, but I'm riding the BMW around now.

[Bad Dad]

My main tourer is a GSXR 1000, although last year I took the ZRX 1200.Then there's the sport tourer option              

[jesse v]

These are all good answers  

[2RR2NV]

Why not buy one of each?

that will be me. got the SS, now, when we get back to SD, if funds are gtg, we'll get either ZX14r, Busa, C14, or VFR800. i realize the others are not ST, but that's what they will become if we get em and the SS will be TRACK/street.