WIDE FEET - having trouble with boot sizes

[01YZF6]

I have an extra wide forward part of my foot. it measures at 9.5 EE / EEE depending on the scale used.
 
I am having the worst time finding a pair of boots that fit comfortably, yet secure enough for appropriate protection purposes.

a 43/9-9.5 is way too narrow. yet the 44/10 is a hair too long
 
my sidi's were a decent fit, but still too narrow for long term comfort. and the soles were erally lacking for support

the worst part is I live at least 100 miles from any place that actually has any variety for try on. and most of em only carry sidi, a*, or icon.
 
anyone else have this issue, and are there any boots that offer superior protection at an affordable price?

[FlowBee]

Most of the Italian boots run narrow.  I had the same issue with Sidis and my E foot.

Oxtars generally run wider than most. I have Oxtar Infinitys and love 'em.  Have you tried their Infinity or Matrix boots?

[vpilot]

Try looking at alpinestars effex boots. I also have wide feet and they fit me fine.

                                                      vpilot

[JoeRider]

Join the crowd.  gave up looking for a while.   I have wide feet and large instep.  

I have been wearing waterproof, (alledged goretex) WOLF boots from walmart, they may be herman survivor series water-proof, gortech boot in black./  I couldnt find a link online. .  a bit warm but fit.  Before that I had engineer boots from meyers. they lasted aboiut a year till a hole wore in em from shifting.

I tried triumph, sidi, alpine stars, basically most boots at chicago cycle, MCC and dgy to no avail.

Let me know when you find a motorcycle boot as wide as the wide sketchers.

[ST1300Rider]

I've got the same problem and have always had to go a full size larger than needed to get comfort. Not so with these.
Kochmann I've got a pair of the Silverstones that fit my wide feet perfectly and they're great boots as well. I'm ordering another pair, probably the Scouts, soon. STA are great to deal with. HTH

[Garp]

I don't have Wide Feet so I haven't tried them but Sidi does now have some boots in sizes equivalent to EE Width:

http://www.newenough.com/boots/waterproof_sport_street_touring_boots/sidi/way_and_mega_way_tepor_motorcycle_boots.html

[dangle]

13ee here and my Oxtar Matrixs after broken in are all day comfortable. You may want to call up some local shoe repair shops and ask about them stretching the boots from the inside with a special tool they have for that purpose.

[01YZF6]

thanks for the replies !


I have not been able to try out any other brands due to not being available locally.
 
I actually own a pair of the herman survivors for working during the winter months, and I can say that they are not as comfortable as I expected, and yes they are warm !
 
as far as the sidi MEGA way tepor boots go, they state that the calf fit is still narrow, wont help me...
 
at least I know I have options out there.

I found an ebay seller that sells the Oxtar series rather cheap. might have to try them out for the price he sells them for.

thanks again

[MidLifeMike]

I too have wide feet. In runners, I can't wear Nike or Adidas for example. New Balance or Asics fit me.
In motorcycle boots, I ended up with Alpinestar Ridge. The Roam is a similar boot with a higher calf.
There was no break in period either, comfy out of the box. These are both economical boots.

[Vladimir]

I ended up with Alpinestar Ridge.

Ditto... and while they are comfortable and all that, they do *not* provide much armor around the ankle to prevent crushing damage from the side. Like if your foot was pinned between your peg and the pavement. They did however protect skin and toes and the like just fine. Ask me how I know...  

[85V65]

Tourmaster 'Solution' boots - the most comfy boots I've ever owned!

85v65

[motospeed9058]

Most of the Italian boots run narrow.  I had the same issue with Sidis and my E foot.

Oxtars generally run wider than most. I have Oxtar Infinitys and love 'em.  Have you tried their Infinity or Matrix boots?

+1 on the Oxtars.  I have the Jupitars and the Matrix.  Very comfortable for all day in the saddle after about a 1 week break in time.

[pearsonm]

I think it's great someone's finally making wide sizes. I'm looking hard at the Sidi Ways, I'm just not convinced sport-tour models offer any more protection than service or work boots. Hopefully it won't be long before they start offering sport models in wide sizes too.

[windsorgreen1]

as far as the sidi MEGA way tepor boots go, they state that the calf fit is still narrow, wont help me...
 

I have the same problem you do. In a sneaker I can't wear anything other than new Balance because , as far as I know, they are the only shoe availavle in a 3E or 4E. For the last 2 years I've been wearing these:
http://carhartt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=10051&productId=49715&langId=-1&categoryId=10916

I love them and will be getting another pair soon. Only cuz my current ones stink after everyday use for 2yrs. Can't say enough about them. Not hot in the summer, breathable, yet still 100% waterproof (when you spray them). I have the 11.5 EE & they fit perfectly.
Thanks,
Martin

[carpe_diem]

I found an ebay seller that sells the Oxtar series rather cheap. might have to try them out for the price he sells them for.

Do yourself a favor. If you must buy mail order. Use www.newenough.com

They have the best customer service and make it easy to return products when they don't fit.

BTW. +1 on the Oxtar. I have the TCS they fit great on my 10E, high arch feet with big calves.

[fasterbusa]

Steel toed boots have never been recommended for use while motorcycling, just an FYI.
The reasoning is that, in case of a crushing impact, the steel will remain deformed (crushed) and the only thing the doctors can do is to then amputate the affected portion of the foot.  Normally, an amputation would involve not just a toe, but also a portion of the foot, often back to a joint.  If one were "lucky", the amputation would only involve the toes.

The recommended toe protection would be to use boots that have the impact resistant toe, which is some type of plastic that will lessen the force of a crushing impact, but then rebound away from the affected area.  The toes or forefoot might be broken or badly damaged by the impact, but the doctors can fix those types of injuries.  

Most crushing impact type accidents that involve the feet are of a very short duration, so a real steel toed boot is not a good choice for motorcycle footwear.

[FullMonte]

Try some Gaernes.  They run wider than most Euro boots.  I love my Explorers which I bought from Newenough.

[bradleym]

Steel toed boots have never been recommended for use while motorcycling, just an FYI.
The reasoning is that, in case of a crushing impact, the steel will remain deformed (crushed) and the only thing the doctors can do is to then amputate the affected portion of the foot.  Normally, an amputation would involve not just a toe, but also a portion of the foot, often back to a joint.  If one were "lucky", the amputation would only involve the toes.

I couldn't find anythink to back up that steel toed shoes not being recommended for motorcycling.  The only thing closely related was this mythbusters: http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/11/episode_42_steel_toe_amputatio.html.
Other references with actual first hand experience that I found with google support the myth busters findings.  You're better off with a steel toe, than without.  Also, the steel doesn't go under the foot, so they could always cut the sole of the boot off to get the foot out. Without the steel toe, you would be scooping the pudding that was once your toes out of the boot, nothing for the doctors to "fix".  

Bradley

[fasterbusa]

With regard to the steel toed shoes, this is information that has been out there for a long time.  I heard it over 25 years ago, perhaps longer.  So I would have no idea on where or if one would be able to find it in some kind of print form.  As with many "notes to self" gained over the years, this is something that has been read, picked up and retained in memory, but not in writing.
If one wishes to not follow it, that is up to them.
Of course, you will note that there are no makers of motorcycle boots that are made for racers or sportbike riders that have steel toes.  So one can also use that as a guide, if they like.
Most of the good steel toed boots have the entire toe area surrounded by a steel cage or toe box.  So, there is no way to simply cut away the sole from below.
I wear steel toed boots everytime that I am in a plant, as they are required, and I have to say that I have never really needed them for dropping object protection.  But I have saved my toes from being mangled a whole bunch of times because I continually bang my boots into various machines when moving around in many, very crowded plants.

Most accidents in plants that I have witnessed have been where something has either fallen onto a foot and been quickly removed, like where an object fell off of a shelf and bounced off a boot, or where a foot has become trapped by a large falling object, like a machine tipping over, and then it has sat on the trapped boot for some period of time (a long time, if it was your foot) while some form of rescue has had to occur.  Often, this has meant getting some kind of lifting gear that will get the object off of the foot.  A good reason for a steel toed boot then.

But in a motorcycle accident, normally, the impact is very short term, as in bang, your foot hit something and then bounced off and continued on the "fall", as in you get kicked off of the bike and you are now slidding down the road, but your foot bangs off of a guard rail support as you continue to slide on by.  In this kind of impact, you would not want the toe box of a boot to deform around the toes and stay that way.  I did not mean that the steel toe box would cut off the toes, just that the docs would have to do that as you cannot "re-inflate" the toe box of a crushed, steel toed boot.

But I do not wear them for riding, as I ride a sportbike, not a cruiser style bike.  It is up to the individual.
Again, just an FYI in any case.

[ScottysB12]

Not sure if youd ever consider work style boots BUT i know for a fact that Redwing Boot stores will fit each foot individually and if one foot is an E and one an EE...well you get boots to match your feet...and i had mine, which were for work over 7 yrs before they had to be replaced due more to my lack of taking care of them.......

[Motorin]

 I also have a wide foot and it varies on shoe/boot manufacture (EE-EEEE) and had picked up some alpinestars that were on clearence.

[Zaprilia]

http://www.cruiserworks.com/sidezip.cfm
I am a size 9.5 EEEE (in a New Balance running shoe) and these boots (9.5 extra wide) fit as good as i could find. You can stand in 8" of water for as long as you want and not have a drop reach your feet. They have some protection for your feet with Kevlar around the ankle and a plastic toe.

[dangle]

Steel toed boots have never been recommended for use while motorcycling, just an FYI.
The reasoning is that, in case of a crushing impact, the steel will remain deformed (crushed) and the only thing the doctors can do is to then amputate the affected portion of the foot.  Normally, an amputation would involve not just a toe, but also a portion of the foot, often back to a joint.  If one were "lucky", the amputation would only involve the toes.

The recommended toe protection would be to use boots that have the impact resistant toe, which is some type of plastic that will lessen the force of a crushing impact, but then rebound away from the affected area.  The toes or forefoot might be broken or badly damaged by the impact, but the doctors can fix those types of injuries.  

Most crushing impact type accidents that involve the feet are of a very short duration, so a real steel toed boot is not a good choice for motorcycle footwear.

I also could not find a sourse to back this up. I've worked in an industry where very heavy objects (thousands of lbs)  were lifted and moved  around on forklifts and we would send people home if they came to work without steeltoes on. Anyway I think common sense would tell you  heavy steeltoed boots would provide excellent protection on a motorcycle where most injuries would be by abrasion anyway. Checkout the motorcross and offroad boots and they offer beter crush resistance but are way more confining and not very comfortable/flexable. OTH if the accident is bad enough say your body hitting a sign or fense post at speed you will probably be eviscerated anyway.

[sscharf]

As soon as I got the e-mail from New Enough about the Sidi Mega Way (what does *that* mean?), I was convinced to try them. I also knew that New Enough would take them back!

So I ordered them, and they barely fit on me - 11 EEE. No go. So I called them, explained the situation, and they paid for return shipping.

Total price = $0.

I love those guys. But I sure wish I could find some boot. I'm wearing leather work boots, steel toe. And I can't keep them waterproof anymore.


steve

[pearsonm]

I'm wearing leather work boots, steel toe. And I can't keep them waterproof anymore.

What kind do you wear? I've got some Magnum service boots, which are sort of like heavy duty basketball shoes. I think they were advertised as waterproof but they’re definitely not anymore. The only thing I really don't like about them is that the sole pattern is a little too grabby on the pegs, especially on the shifter side.

I've been trying to find some Wellington work boots with a smooth sole. What I really want are track boots for the hard armor but of course there's nothing available in a 12EE. I still don’t see any more protection with a sport tour boot over a work boot.

[sscharf]

I am using Wolverines, as seen here: http://www.wolverinebootsandshoes.com/Product/Wolverine/8-9-inch-BOOTS/Mens/Waterproof-Insulated-Steel-Toe-8-inch-Boot.aspx

Worn for two years now, took me to Alaska. The soles look funny, as I grind them down.

Not a bad deal, I would just like some proper boots.

steve

[bradleym]

I'll have to check out some of the suggestions from this thread.  I wear 11.5 or 12 in 4E in New Balance.  12 wide or XW in other brands seem to be ok fits.  Currently I have Some Daytona Daystar GTX boots in size 48 (~US13) that fit ok, although a little long.  Or Catapillar steel toed boots in 11.5W.  I'll have to try some Mega Ways.

As for the steel toe issue, I figure race boots don't have them for the same reason running shoes don't.... it's not needed.  I've read some first hand reports of what people have had dropped on their feet with steel toes, and only had a little bruising from 1000+ lbs dropped from more than a foot.  I'd bet anything that would crush the steel toe, would do much worse to my fleshy toes.

Bradley

[JoeRider]

sidi, apline star, joe rocket are NOT wide.

I tried the roam, ridge, tem por, and a few others (velocity)and non  were wide enough or would close around the calf including th eone with soem adjustable calf crap screw in the rear hing.


The herman survivor water proof, kevlar boot fit the best but is more a rain boot/ light duty IMHO than a enginner, construction or Moto boot.

Where do Hobbits get thier boots I wonder?

 

[carpe_diem]

Oxtar

[Rob (from Hoosierville)]

I feel your pain. 9 1/2 EEEE here (right side is really EEEEE). Even the Cruiserworks stuff was too narrow. Forget the Eurostyle touring boots like the Oxtar and such. I was ready to plunk down big bucks for some custom made stuff when I wandered in to Walmart of all places. I got some Hermann Survivor Commando Style Boots in "wide" width that fit great. I had to go 1/2 size up but that gve me a little room for boot socks. They are waterproof, warm (but not too warm) and only about $40.00. There is a nice radiused area between heel and forefoot that fits the footpegs really well, and the sole is a non-slip design that really hangs on, even on oily parking lots.

Fashionable they're not, but I've got about 20k miles on them and they are still in great shape.

[kml]

Have 'em custom (in the true sense of the word) made to fit your feet.
http://www.batesleathers.com/boots/customize.php

cheers
ken

[jka134]

=1 on the "cruiserworks".  I wear a 4E and they fit perfectly. Not much support for off road so I'm going to try the Sidi Discoveries.

[01YZF6]

really glad this is still going as i have an update !
 

wife got me the Vega nitro Sport boots today for my bday.

out of the box they fit great, extra toe room and nice curve to the instep for walking.

she went with a size 10 (regular width not wide) and these are great !
 
Ill post a full review after next week ( @ 1400 miles of riding)

they claim to be waterproof, we will see !

construction appears to be quite well done, solid stitching, zippers large,  velcro stick-ick-ickyyyyyy, and the sole is mildly thick. bonus toe sliders as well !

calf has extra room in it for tucking leather pants inside the upper boot. ( great for my he-man calves too !)
 
 


 
she could not decide between the sport version or the touring version. she made her decision based on my sidi boots.  and a great choice it was !

[dgunther]

I've got a pair of the Alpinestars SM X boots in size 47 they're plenty wide and have tons of adjustment at the top for big legs.  It looks like the SM-X4 boots at newenough are the newer better vented version of my SM-Xs.

I've got pretty wide feet and huge calves.  I usually wear a size 13 EE in New Balances sneakers and I probably could have gone for a size 46 in the Alpinestars once they got broken in.

[ColdDuc]

I typically wear a 8 3E or 4E shoe. Happened by a BMW shop a few weeks back and put on a pair of European size 42 "All Around" boots. Felt so good I took them home and have worn them a whole bunch since. For whatever reason, these fit. It is worth a stop by your local BMW dealer.

Joe

[JReazor]

I also have wide feet and have always had trouble finding boots that fit out of the box. If the boots I want don't come in a wide I'll try larger sizes until the width is right. Then I'll adjust the fit with insoles. It's worked pretty well for me so far. As an added bonus, a good insole almost always provides more arch support and comfort the the boot alone.

[98SVT_LEO]

I have the same issue....big wide feet.....tried Sidi but there boots are far too narrow.  Then I ordered the Alpinestars SMX-R's and they are perfect.  Look at new enough's description on them.  Excellent boots......just not H20 proof but they breathe well!  

[HaSTe]

I have 10 EEE and bought the Sidi Sympatec. Absolutely, positively 100%, stand in the kiddie pool waterproof. Yes they are narrow but I used some liquid shoe stretch on them and now have over 50K kms in these boots. Worth the effort to stretch them...