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« on: November 06, 2011, 10:25:48 PM »

I currently own a Scorpion EXO 1000.  My old HJC had a pinlock and that thing worked great, but I needed to replace my helmet and found a screamin' deal on this helmet so I bought it.  But, alas, the pinlock is not available for this helmet.

So what can I do?  I've heard something called "fogcity" insert.  That any good?  Any other ideas?  It's gonna be cold and I'll be riding every day and I need to do what I can cut down on that fog.

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 10:57:32 PM »

Alexi,

  This is the best stuff i have ever found for a fog protective coating.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarity-Defog-concentrate-microfiber-cloth/dp/B003AJGJ3A

Put a good amount of drops on the shield, rub it around with your fingers to cover everything - then buff in with the supplied microfiber towel. Unlike other similar products it does not leave gunk or smudge on the shield, and it works pretty damn good. The bottle is pretty small, so order two. And if you are riding in extreme weather, will need to reapply each day.

If you wear a full face (which I don't), then the Respro Foggy is the best thing ever.

http://www.aerostich.com/respro-foggy-breathguard.html

Basically just blocks your breath from the shield, and once you get it adjusted right, it's superb.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 11:23:21 PM »

I thought Scorpion shields were all super-no-fog EverClear TechnologyTM.  Headscratch

If you got a lemon maybe they'll send you a replacement, where'd you get it?
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 12:45:06 AM »

Here's the Ride magazine test on anti fogging devices and demisters:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/Ride%20Magazine/Product%20test%20pdfs/3%20MAR08%20visordemist%20test.pdf

It seems Fog Tech is the way to go.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 01:24:11 AM »

Excellent stuff.  Went ahead and ordered a respro foggy.  Turns out it was cheapest to order direct from the manufacturer in england.  Looks good, and after last weeks constant popping up and lowering the visor, and worrying about the fog, I need it.  

Alexi

Awesome comparison test too.  Done right.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 06:20:24 AM »

Buy an Arai and get the double-pane faceshield?   Headscratch

Granted, expensive but...
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 07:22:27 AM »

I have a Scorpion EXO-700 which doesn't fog while you're moving.  Open the shield at stop lights. Open the chin vent to flow some air.

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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 07:35:29 AM »

Tape a small piece of a foam earplug to the top of the chin guard where the shield rests.  That small crack of air at the bottom will flow away all the moisture you are putting out.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 07:36:14 AM »


I have a Scorpion EXO-700 which doesn't fog while you're moving.  Open the shield at stop lights. Open the chin vent to flow some air.

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Same here.  

Webbikeworld.com has also done some comparison test on anti-fog treatments.  
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 07:37:24 AM »

I just picked up a Fog City Hyper Optics insert with the active tinting.  I'm glad it got a recommended rating on the review page linked above.  

I've only gotten to use it this morning - at 32°F commute with fog.  The fogging on the shield insert was minimal and mostly went away after a brief second.  I have used the Fog City inserts during previous winters with good results, but this is the first one I am using that the insert is held away from the shield.  Hopefully the double images at night won't be too trippy.  The regular Fog City liners that stick right to the shield have always worked well enough for me.  

Cracking open your face shield can help, but I prefer to keep it closed in cold weather or when it is raining so that the rain stays on the outside.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2011, 09:23:51 AM »


I have a Scorpion EXO-700 which doesn't fog while you're moving.  Open the shield at stop lights. Open the chin vent to flow some air.

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My faceshield worked for about two weeks, then starting fogging up like crazy.  I do open the lid a crack at stoplights, but stop and go traffic makes it annoying.  Even cracked, it'll fog up.  and very slow stop and go.

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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2011, 12:25:58 PM »

The Fog City stuff works good, just as good at the pinlock and is cheaper as well. Just make sure you to a VERY though job of cleaning your shield before you stick it on. I would suggest soap and water, rinse, alchohol, then rinse again. Do this even if the shield is brand new.

All that said I like the pin lock better, no need for all that surface prep. .

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2011, 12:40:52 PM »

Over the years I've tried just about everything on the market it seems. In my experience only, Pinlock is best overall but is most expensive and only lasts about a year or so (depending upon hours of usage), and like all other "stick-on" or "smear-on" options, doesn't prevent moisture droplets from freezing to the inside of the visor in seriously cold temps. I bought a Scorpion EXO-700 with optional dual-pane (non-DOT) visor just to try as an extreme-cold helmet, but sadly the lid didn't fit my head well enough. A heated visor is probably the best, though not as practical, solution.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 01:51:24 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2011, 01:58:49 PM »



It seems Fog Tech is the way to go.


Works well for me. Smile
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2011, 02:29:26 PM »

Hell, may as well double up.  I've got the respro fogger coming, no harm in a 15 buck fogcity insert too as extra insurance.
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2011, 02:47:43 PM »


Hell, may as well double up.  I've got the respro fogger coming, no harm in a 15 buck fogcity insert too as extra insurance.


There is no need to spend the money on both - if you have the foggy and it's installed right, the fog city will just be more hassle than it's worth.
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2011, 01:11:41 PM »

Pretty strange. I've been riding and racing in Scorpion helmets since they came out in conditions ranging from sub-freezing to 105f and humid, and I've yet to fog one.

Did you change to a mirror shield by any chance? The first gen of those did not have the Everclear treatment. This explains the webbikeworkd review where the dude changes out the shield to one w/ no anti-fog, then complains that the anti-fog isn't effective Smile
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