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« on: November 16, 2011, 11:13:59 AM »

So I've decided it's high time I try year-round riding and realize heated gear is the only way to accomplish this.  From the heated gear discussion I read where WarmnSafe & Gerbing were debated, I've decided on the WarmnSafe stuff.  Now, I'm a newb with installation - please keep that in mind.  I have a 2000 Speed Triple and will be installing a distribution block to prevent battery drainage on accident.  The question is, when you folks [that have bought the gear] hooked it up to your 12V, what part numbers should I be looking for to ensure that the plug from the heated gear matches up with the plug from the battery/distribution block?  Or did that all come as one package or something?  I've got the coat liner, the pants and gloves so I'm guessing the intermediary connection will have a 3-to-1 adapter maybe?  Please excuse my newbness.   Embarassment
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 11:21:28 AM »

Are you running a heat-troller?
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 02:08:58 PM »

I have their jacket and had "pre-production" gloves to test. I have their dual-troller controller.

The jacket has leads at the sleeves for glove plug-in use. IIRC, the jacket has the option for either operating as one input or two input. In one input mode the gloves work off the same "IN" power feed as the jacket - one `troller knob feeds both the jacket and gloves. In dual mode there are two leads hanging down from the jacket with the "second" lead running to just the gloves.

I never had the pants but I'd imagine they have their own power in feed. No additional "part numbers" aside from Jacket / Gloves / Pants / Dual head controller.

Not sure how I'd wish to run things with pants tossed in. I often used the gloves at a different heat value than the jacket so I might like them to be on different circuits. The debate - get a third controller for the pants or perhaps connect the pants to the jacket circuit? Does their web site detail what "most folks" do in the three heated items on a dual controller?  If you have any q's - send'm an e-mail, I found them to be quite responsive.

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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 03:54:42 PM »

I just plug the gloves to the jacket and the pants to the jacket, and the jacket to the heat-troller which is tapped directly to the battery. I never felt the need for controlling everything seperate, but I do have heated grips if the gloves need a little help.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 04:02:21 PM »

I'm still not 100% sure what his question is.  The connector will be a standard coax connector.

http://www.warmnsafe.com/web%20jacket%20liner%20instructions%20gen%202.pdf
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 08:23:15 PM »

Thanks everyone for your feedback/info.  That's a sound suggestion for connecting them all up like that.  The main thing I was worried about is whether I would have to supply my own wiring, but it sounds like it ships with most of what I need.  The main part I was having trouble wrapping my head around was after I connect the gloves into the jacket and pants into the jacket, what does the connection look like from jacket main line to heat troller, then from heat troller to the power connection coming from the distribution block I'm about to install.  That particular part is where I still have questions.  I'm guessing I just need to match the heat troller input up to whatever the resulting power source connector will be, but not sure what that part looks like.

I'm guessing the heat troller controls the level of heat output.  And each part, i.e. pants being one, jacket two and gloves three, don't necessarily require their own controller unless there's issues with the jacket not being hot enough if used in parallel with the gloves where they may end up being too hot.  Is my logic sound or am I way off?
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 08:46:39 PM »

You shouldn't need much, if any, "of your own wiring". The heat troller comes with perhaps two feet of wire you'd connect to your power supply/battery/bike wiring (fused as you choose). Aside from that, the wires included are "long enough" to connect the clothing to the troller's output lines.

Clothing to `troller is a coaxial connector - tight enough to stay put but loose enough it'll separate w/o ripping wires from the bike or jacket when you leave the bike and forget to unplug first.

As for the `troller's "input" - just a two conductor 'zip-cord' wire (much like you have for a lamp in your house). Not sure any termination (end) comes on it from the factory as you'd likely shorten/extend for your installation setup.

Correct - all items can be run off of one control - then they'd all "adjust" their temp with one knob. Did you buy a single control `troller or a dual? If a dual, you'd have options of what you'd like to connect to each "side" of the `troller - for individual heat control.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 09:00:49 PM »

This page shows a little how the wiring is:
http://www.warmnsafe.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_71_81

Here are two good, large images of what the coaxial connectors look like (the round connectors on these adapter wires):

Male end (which IIRC is the heat`troller side of life)
http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/dir/large_img.php?id=78599

Female end (the jacket side of life)
http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/dir/large_img.php?id=78611
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2011, 08:33:16 AM »

FWIW, here's where I installed the warm-n-safe heat troller:

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 06:53:09 AM »

Nice and clean.  I like it!
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 07:29:00 AM »

I left the LED's off when I installed mine.  I found the flashing lights a little distracting at night.

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011, 06:40:19 AM »

The snow in the picture is a nice touch.  Thumbsup
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