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« on: January 31, 2012, 12:59:08 PM »

I have been out of the bike game for a year or two and have decided I can't just walk away..

So i have 2 opportunities at the right price, they are;

2002 Connie, 38K miles, good condition, no extras,  $ 2300.

1886 R80RT, 50K miles, very good condition, has a Corbin seat, $2500

The kawasaki is a little boring, but bulletproof, The beemer has more character but maybe low on power.


Your thoughts?

Mike.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 01:12:23 PM »


I have been out of the bike game for a year or two and have decided I can't just walk away..

So i have 2 opportunities at the right price, they are;

2002 Connie, 38K miles, good condition, no extras,  $ 2300.

1886 R80RT, 50K miles, very good condition, has a Corbin seat, $2500

The kawasaki is a little boring, but bulletproof, The beemer has more character but maybe low on power.


Your thoughts?

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That's low mileage on that old a bike!
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 01:29:50 PM »

Yeah it is low miles, it has dealer history but he just doesn't ride it that much. It has been in storage for the passed 12 months but he does it right, battery tender, drains the fuel, puts a cover on it etc. I am a little leary of a 26 year old bike but maybe I shouldn't be if it has been looked after.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 01:34:30 PM »

That r80rt most probably could be sold for a profit in a few years.
The Connie could be sold for scrap in a few years.

The problem with any 26 year old bike is that unless it has been completely freshened up, the rubber lines on it (fuel, brake etc) need to be changed, and the wiring loom gets extra crispy and brittle.  
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 01:35:15 PM »

It depends a lot on how the miles were put on the Beemer. If it's been a steady 2K miles every year for 25 years, it may be the better choice, providing you like Beemers. If it hasn't been used much for the last several years there could be a lot of little problems waiting to happen. Motorcycles don't like to sit around unused. I have a 79, an 80, and an 82 Suzuki; I can hardly wait until next year when I will be looking for a newer bike so I don't HAVE to deal with the maintenance on an older machine. I like the older bikes, but I'm getting tired of having them as my only ride.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 01:46:23 PM »

The Connie might be the more mechanically sound of the two given the age of the BMW. But I'd still go with the beamer - it's a cool bike.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 01:48:50 PM »

 

I even but the year in bold...

 
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 01:53:20 PM »


 

I even but the year in bold...

 



You PUT the year in bold?  We all make mistakes.  He didn't catch it.



ANYWAY - Go for the Beemer.  For $200 more bucks, you may be getting some maintenance issues, but it's a much cooler bike.  If you are doing mostly highway miles, then MAYBE the Connie, but if you're just getting a bike to cruise around on once in a while, for sure the Beemer.

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 01:53:49 PM »

I just came from a '99 Connie.

The Connie will be less expensive to own/maintain, and will not likely require maintenance as frequently -- which means you'll be riding more, and wrenching less.  There are a couple of mods you can make to the Connie that really wake it up -- enough so you can pull the front wheel off the ground in second gear @ 5k rpm -- it really can be a very sporty big bike.  Performance-wise, the Connie will blow my BMW off the road.

Having said all that, I'm currently riding a '96 R1100RT and the Connie has a new owner... and I've very happy with my decision.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 01:57:36 PM »


I just came from a '99 Connie.

The Connie will be less expensive to own/maintain, and will not likely require maintenance as frequently -- which means you'll be riding more, and wrenching less.  There are a couple of mods you can make to the Connie that really wake it up -- enough so you can pull the front wheel off the ground in second gear @ 5k rpm -- it really can be a very sporty big bike.  Performance-wise, the Connie will blow my BMW off the road.

Having said all that, I'm currently riding a '96 R1100RT and the Connie has a new owner... and I've very happy with my decision.



Oh boy Ty, that sums up the whole dilema. Thanks, I think. Crazy
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 01:59:17 PM »


 

I even but the year in bold...

 



Yep, caught that. 1986, wasn't that the year of the first Back To The Future movie? Puts the bikes age in context.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 02:03:27 PM »

ANYWAY - Go for the Beemer.  For $200 more bucks, you may be getting some maintenance issues, but it's a much cooler bike.  If you are doing mostly highway miles, then MAYBE the Connie, but if you're just getting a bike to cruise around on once in a while, for sure the Beemer.

- Dan



I am not the Ironbutt type, a few weekend runs to rallies/camping and then local routes on Sundays, that type of riding.

Thanks again for your ideas.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 02:03:45 PM »

For around town? Go with the Bavarian.

For touring on? Have fun getting stranded on yer antique BMW!  Twofinger

I love old bikes. My old man has a ton of them (especially from the late 70s and early 80s) and I ride them whenever I can... but they WILL strand you. It's no big deal if you're 10 miles away, but if you're three states away....
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2012, 02:48:18 PM »





You PUT the year in bold?  We all make mistakes.  He didn't catch it...


 Lmao  I did...
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 08:51:09 PM »

Which bike do you find more comfortable? How about your passenger, if any?

The R80 will definitely be down on power compared to the Connie. It's certainly adequate, but not a barnstormer.

There's strong support for the airheads, and parts are readily available. I'll let others answer about the Connie.

I have heard that not all BMW dealers will still service airheads, so if you don't do your own work you'll want to make sure that you have a good shop nearby. (My local dealer is happy to work on them.)

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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2012, 07:51:11 AM »

I don't think you can go wrong with either bike.  I don't know much about the connie, but have quite a bit of experience with the beemers.  As for an '86 R80 leaving you stranded, if it has been properly maintained, you should be able to ride across the country with no worries.  If not, then you may need to take a look at some of the typical things already mentioned, rubber tubing, wiring harness, etc.  I acquired a '79 R80 (with 36K on the odo) a few years ago that had sat for nearly six years without being started.  I filled the cylindars with automatic transmission fluid and let it sit for a couple of weeks while I worked on other stuff, like brake lines, carbuerators, frame mods, etc.  Once it was all back together and properly tuned, I put a new battery in and she started up on the first attempt.  Of course with the ATF left that I could not blow out by cranking it over with the plugs out, it smoked like and locomotive for a few miles but ran perfectly.  The only item that gave me problems after that was the alternator, but I easily found a replacement online and all is good now.

As others have stated, the connie will probably out perform the beemer but if you plan on keeping your choice around for a while, the beemer will likely be worth more in a few years and the connie will not.  Something else to consider is that if you get the passion back and want to upgrade to a higher performance bike, the R80 makes a pretty good second bike and is great fun if set up as a cafe' racer.  Here's my "cafe' racer" R80 with the small Wixom bags.  It is a hoot to ride and causes a crowd to gather everywhere I go with it.

edited to add:  If you want to compare prices; take a look at the IBMWR airheads section. $2500 is probably a pretty fair price for a running R80.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2012, 08:28:15 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2012, 09:57:57 AM »

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I'll throw in my .02 as a C10 owner, If the R80RT is in good running and cosmetic shape, and you don't mind futzing around with it once in a while I'd go for that for 2500.
Definitely more character and basically a collectible bike right now. You won't lose a dime at that price down the road if you sell. I'd say it's more of a fun, unique bike for bopping around
or a little touring. Unless I had a credit card with a big limit I'd be leery of taking it across country but then again airheads do it all the time.

If you're looking for a 2-up pack mule, or a low-maintenance stone reliable mile eater that you basically don't have to mess with go for the Connie.
The Connie will have a shitload more power and slab-speed grunt and will outperform the old BMW in most every category, especially if it's got some
of the common suspension and braking mods.

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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2012, 01:03:11 PM »

I had an '83 R100RT back in the 80s. Good bike for its time, but if it was me I'd go for the Connie. More power, smoother engine, a lot newer, and probably less will go wrong. Despite the low miles that BMW is a bit long in the tooth.
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2012, 04:00:18 PM »

 Headscratch I'm having trouble understanding why so many are saying you will have to work on the beemer all the time or that it will leave you stranded.  My old R75/6 never required any maintenance other than tune-ups, fluids and tires on schedule.  I drove it just a little over 50,000 miles in the five years I owned it and never had a single mechanical failure on the road or anywhere else for that matter.  There are lots of airheads out there with over 100K miles that are still running strong.  I'm betting the R80 you are looking at can easily make that mileage and more.
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