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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2012, 06:13:19 AM »




How is this possible?  No date set as yet.  For such a simple business model, they produce staggerring revenue.  Regardless if they produce anything, they connect people to eachother and don't have any viable competitors at present.


If you have a client determined to invest say several $MM in an IPO, you express that interest to your firm's trading desk.  They roll-up all the monies from the interested brokers and contact the potential issuer of the IPO and secure an agreement on share availability.  

By the time the actual IPO happens, the shares are already pre-sold at the IPO price.  Typically by two-weeks to opening bell, all the IPO shares have homes. (mostly institutional investors.  Very little from individual investors)

In the particular case of my wife's office one client has successfully purchased into a couple of different IPOs in the past, and has expressed interest in FaceBook.  So shares are already promised for him.  (Expressed interest means more than a phonecall.  It means cash-on-hand waiting.)

If you buy genuine IPO shares, as an individual investor, the firms usually restrict you from trading them for 30 days from the acquisition date.  Should you sell prior to 30days you can expect to have future IPO requests declined.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2012, 06:31:31 AM »


I'm not on FB and i couldn't care less.


You'd just constantly post pics of your homo foo foo lattes.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2012, 06:48:28 AM »

rgbeard - Not trying to argue, but that's wrong.

Indications of interest are not word of mouth commitments.  No IOI's have been taken yet, at any level.  Allocations are driven in part by IOI's, but it's different from firm to firm - in most cases if a retail advisor has clients who participate in every banking deal (even the bad ones) they will merit some consideration from the bankers, but not usually with the hot deals.  Unless this guy in your wife's office is the biggest broker in his region and does tons of syndicate business, I'd bet he doesn't get 100 shares in total - and probably less than that unless he's with MS or GS.  Trust me, I know how it works; I have coordinated syndicate deals for my offices and placed IPO's with my clients for many years.  Selling restrictions are also vastly different from firm to firm, and with allocations on hot deals they would be among the last things the bankers consider.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2012, 07:07:37 AM »

Interesting read on the ticker this morning...

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Ok folks, it's not often that I issue a rank do not buy statement on an S-1 (in fact, since starting the Ticker I can't recall ever doing it) but this is one where I feel I need to.

It's Facebook.

I'm basing this on one, and only one, criteria -- the rate of acquisition of new accounts is slowing.

That's all I need to know and it should be all you need to know -- the company filed the S-1 as soon as they detected this slowdown in December.

In addition participation is narrowing; there were 1.74 users monthly per daily user in 2011, but 1.86 a year prior.

These are potential signs of leveling off.  The deal with almost-certainly price assuming a ridiculous price to sales and price to earnings multiple, which means that the growth numbers must be maintained as the P/E/G ratio will be in the stratosphere.

If it's not you're going to get your head cut off.


The rest of the article - "FB": DO NOT BUY
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