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« on: February 03, 2012, 01:38:59 PM »

Hi. I'm new here, so I thought I'd introduce myself.

I've never actually ridden a motorcycle before, but I'm taking an MSF course in a week.

Any tips?  Smile
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 02:40:44 PM »

Welcome!  Listen to the instructors, and don't buy too much bike to start off on.  I started on a Ninja 250 and loved it!
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 02:54:32 PM »

Thanks!

I plan a 250 cc.

I'm not all that much into sport bikes, either.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 03:21:37 PM »

Whatever you do don't listen to anybody on this site. You do that you're golden.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 04:51:12 PM »


Whatever you do don't listen to anybody on this site. You do that you're golden.


Listen the Monkey. Oh wait, that would be contradictory.


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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 05:46:28 PM »

Get something light and cheap to start. You'll drop it, and if it's cheap you won't mind so much and if it's light it'll be easier to pick up.  Lol It will also help you discover what kind of biker you are. When I considered riding, I had a cruiser as my computer wallpaper. I bought a Suzuki S40 as a starter bike. Fun bike, but I discovered I wanted my feet under me, instead of out front. You only find out by doing.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 09:18:35 AM »

Thanks, everyone.  Smile
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 11:10:22 AM »

enjoy the class, my son took it and it helped him a lot, especially with confidence factor.


So, you ask for any tips ...

type of bike - look towards buying similar type vs. the person(s) you'll likely be riding with.  If they're riding a Japanese standard, don't get a cruiser.  
I think 4 cylinder sport bikes are bad 1st choice = seen too many crashes w/ new riders

1st bike shopping - try to have a M/C rider with you as you look (esp at used) because you likely won't recognize what work ($) needs to be done.

engine size - 500 - 650 twins, you won't outgrow the power as fast.   Suzuki SV 650 (naked) would be an good one, imo.  $3000 used(?)  
Peeps speak well of the Ninja 250 though
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 10:10:57 AM »

I was leaning towards a 250cc bike.

I don't "need" anything fast. Also, I don't care for sport bikes, to be honest.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 08:42:27 PM »

Older nighthawk 250's and 450's are pretty nice "standard" style bikes and should handle a little better than a "cruiser" style of bike. Take a look at smaller street legal dual-sports also, they are light and narrow and nimble. They don't tend to sustain as much damage if you fall down. Lastly the dirt is a much, much more forgiving place (than the steet) to learn the basics of motorcycle control. Wear your gear and have fun!

P.S. Feel free to ask questions from friends who ride and experienced riders, almost all of them will be willing to offer help or advice. Listen to the ones who don't seem to crash often!
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 06:58:04 AM »


Get something light and cheap to start. You'll drop it, and if it's cheap you won't mind so much and if it's light it'll be easier to pick up.  Lol It will also help you discover what kind of biker you are. When I considered riding, I had a cruiser as my computer wallpaper. I bought a Suzuki S40 as a starter bike. Fun bike, but I discovered I wanted my feet under me, instead of out front. You only find out by doing.


My wife has started on a used, pre-dropped S40/Savage.  It was cheap and we enjoy it.  She had dropped it a few times, and was able to pick it back up herself.   Thumbsup

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 08:27:22 AM »

Buy some decent gear-I'm afraid that you will fall off.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2012, 08:54:39 AM »

Bit more on your demographics might be helpful....age? location? preferences for bikes? Gear plans?

Enjoy the MSF class.  Lots of good information and don't be afraid to ask questions....
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 01:17:52 PM »


Bit more on your demographics might be helpful....age? location? preferences for bikes? Gear plans?

Enjoy the MSF class.  Lots of good information and don't be afraid to ask questions....


Hmmmm....

Age: 21 in a couple weeks
Location: LA area
Preferences: My ideal bike is a '60s British bike, but that's not exactly practical.
Gear plans: not sure yet
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2012, 01:57:28 PM »




Hmmmm....

Age: 21 in a couple weeks
Location: LA area
Preferences: My ideal bike is a '60s British bike, but that's not exactly practical.
Gear plans: not sure yet


60s British bikes are fine if you choose the right model and one in good condition. Go for a quality marque if you can-Velocette, AJS, Matchless, Ariel. Earlier BSAs are good-the M21 is unbreakable.
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2012, 01:58:23 PM »




60s British bikes are fine if you choose the right model and one in good condition. Go for a quality marque if you can-Velocette, AJS, Matchless, Ariel. Earlier BSAs are good-the M21 is unbreakable.


Now don't go confusing the lad.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2012, 01:59:31 PM »




Now don't go confusing the lad.


Break a leg etc...That reminds me-Panther!
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2012, 02:04:17 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2012, 01:16:59 PM »




60s British bikes are fine if you choose the right model and one in good condition. Go for a quality marque if you can-Velocette, AJS, Matchless, Ariel. Earlier BSAs are good-the M21 is unbreakable.


I'll have a look around. Thanks.  Smile
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2012, 01:24:33 PM »

Spend your money on gear, then spend whatever's left on the bike.  Not vise-versa.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 01:53:04 PM »


Spend your money on gear, then spend whatever's left on the bike.  Not vise-versa.

What do you suggest, in terms of gear?
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2012, 02:00:46 PM »

First and foremost a helmet that FITS.  You'll most likely have to try on a few brands to find one that fits your head shape.

You can find decent deals on other gear online.  Motorcyclegear.com carries lots of last season's stuff at bargain prices.  They also have a great return policy so if you get it and it doesn't fit you can send it back pretty painlessly.  The main thing is get stuff that fits you.  
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2012, 02:48:16 PM »

Thanks.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2012, 02:55:44 PM »

No problem.
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2012, 06:14:55 PM »

bike?? you like older brit bikes..  expensive to replace parts on..  look instead at late 70s early 80s jap standards. .. 550cc, or 650cc... great bikes to learn on.. motorcycle junkyards are full of them, and they are easy to work on..  as said before dont be afraid to spend money on a good helmet... full face.   you are in LA.. or near there... a good combo jacket.  like the tourmaster intake.  find a good pair of gloves.  heavy leather boots that cover the ankles. just be sure to tuck in your laces.  take the class.. pay attention.. find someone who knows how to ride , and ride with them  for awhile.. spend lots of time on the back roads. and slowly move into towns and traffic  ..  my son took the class last year.. and has the benefit of being able to ride with both my wife and i.. and our friends.  he started on a KLR 250.. but we soon found out not good for hi way.. he is now on an 83 Honda V45 sabre.. and he dropped it two weeks ago and broke off a turn signal. no big deal. i am sure he will do it again . as will you..   good luck and have a good time...

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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2012, 09:29:24 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2012, 08:43:50 PM »

If you have any questions about the MSF course, feel free to ask.

My recommendations:

Buy the bike *after* taking the course. You'll have a better idea of what you want at that point.

I second the comment about gear.

There is good second-hand gear available out there. However, I recommend that you buy a *new* helmet (preferably full-face).

Best wishes! Let us know how the course goes.
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2012, 12:51:40 AM »

        You’ve been dreaming about riding a motorcycle for some time, but you don’t know what kind of motorcycle to buy.  Purchasing your first motorcycle can often end up becoming an odyssey trying to figure out what type of motorcycle you want versus what type you need. When choosing your first motorcycle you want to look at the type of riding you are going to do, the performance of the motorcycle, the size/comfort of it, and lastly you, the rider. Hopefully using this guide will help in the acquisition of your first motorcycle.  

   The first thing you want to do is think about what type of riding you want to do. Motorcycles, like automobiles, come in a lot of different shapes and sizes. Many of them are designed for a specialized task. Do you want to ride all day in the dirt or do you want to stick to the road?  Are you only looking for a bike to tour the country on? The type of riding your interested in pretty much dictates the kind of bike you should be looking at.  Be aware that even within groups there are sub-groupings. For example you decide you want to ride off road. Within off road motorcycles you have: motocross bikes, trail bikes, and dual-sport bikes. When you nail down the then type then you actually start looking at motorcycles themselves.  

   You’ve decided on the type of motorcycle now let’s talk about performance. The biggest single mistake new rider make is buying a bike with far more performance than he or she can handle.  A new rider should shy away from any true sport bike. Today’s sport bikes are nothing more than race ready bikes that have had headlights and turn signals added. New riders need a bike that they can safely learn to hone their skills on. Once you have the experience you will appreciate the performance of those bikes more.

         Having a bike that fits right for you is important for a new rider.  A bike that isn’t sized right for you is a distraction that new riders don’t need. Having one that is comfortable allows you to concentrate more on learning to ride better. If it’s too tall, and your feet can’t touch the ground you are going to drop it. Same thing goes if it’s too heavy for you.  Sit on a bike.  Can you reach the handle bars without stretching? Put your feet up on the pegs. Are your knees comfortable? If there is any inherent discomfort, it will be magnified after spending an hour riding.  

          Often first time buyers are hung up on whether to buy a new or used motorcycle.   In a word, used.  Just like cars, motorcycles depreciate, and entry level bikes depreciate the most in the first year of ownership. No matter how much you want to ride now you might discover that motorcycles aren’t for you, so don’t be the one to incur that loss.  Another reason to buy used is because you are going to drop your bike or put some dings on it.  You would feel a lot worse if you dropped a new bike costing a whole lot more. Take your time to do the research and find the one that is right, financially, for you to purchase. Make sure it is reliable and has been well maintained. Have it checked out by a qualified mechanic. You don’t want to make a rash decision.

           Now you have decided on the bike you want and spent a sizable amount of money it’s time for the last step in the process, you. You are at one with the bike. You need to invest in the proper riding apparel and safety equipment. If you crash, wearing the proper gear could prevent or reduce the severity of injuries.  Take a training course to learn to ride safely, then get out there and ride.

   
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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2012, 05:56:55 PM »


Hi. I'm new here, so I thought I'd introduce myself.
I've never actually ridden a motorcycle before, but I'm taking an MSF course in a week.


so how did it go?
If you'd never ridden an M/C before it's no shame to have not passed - just means next time it's sooo much easier
You've been exposed to clutch / shifting at this point ...
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