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« on: April 17, 2007, 05:56:43 PM »

In another thread, "Caper" asked who was going to the ALDERS rally.  "Gypsy" started one in the Iron Butt forum a while ago but didn't get any replies.  I thought I'd start one on that subject in the Canadian Forum.  

The rally will be held on the weekend of June 22-24.  There are two choices:  

1,000 km's in 14 hours
1,600 km's in 24 hours

As I write this, my plans are to do the 1,000. km's.  

Here's the link to the web site:

http://www.aldersland.com/

On the same weekend in Moncton, there will be what is advertized as Greater Moncton's first annual motorcycle festival.  I don't know if this will turn out to be a cruiser fest.  We'll have to wait and see I guess.  Here's the link to the web site:  

http://www.atlanticade.ca/home.htm
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2007, 11:58:09 PM »

Good day Acadian Rider

I have made the proper plans and I will be there.... I have signed up for the 1000kms ride.  I am not very local. Could you show me around a little bit?

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2007, 04:22:25 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2007, 03:50:37 AM »

Thanks for posting the information Acadian Rider, I have to work that weekend, so it won't be happening for me. Sounds like a fun weekend though.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2007, 04:39:13 PM »

     Hi there Acadian Rider -

     I was the ST1300 rider you were talking to in last year's ALDERS rally.  I had a blast and am doing it again this year.

     To anyone else out there...it really doesn't matter if you have had any rally experience or if you are unfamiliar with the area...either way you will have an enjoyable day of riding and get to visit remote areas off the beaten track that you wouldn't normally visit.

     I only hope that it will be a little dryer than last year Smile

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2007, 05:06:39 PM »


    
     I only hope that it will be a little dryer than last year Smile

     Allan A    



Wait a minute here!   You mean it could rain ?  Oh that's just great....



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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 05:29:18 PM »

Hello Allan!

Yes, I remember talking to you last year on the Friday night.  Glad to see you're coming back.   Thumbsup

    

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2007, 04:37:14 PM »


        I had a blast and am doing it again this year.    

I just got the list of participants and I see you're doing the 1600 km's in 24 hrs.   Hail  I'm just a wimp.  I only registered for the 1000 in 14 hrs.  

The good news is that an ST1300 will win both the 1000 and 1600 event.   Bigsmile  

FJR's, move over.   :pokestick:
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2007, 05:23:11 PM »

Acadian Rider -

     Good to see another ST1300 rider out there - If these machines are anything like Thane's ST1100 then we're good for many, many miles yet to come!

...as for the 1600 km ride - I guess I enjoy punishing myself as I keep wanting to do these types of rides > again and again !   Wink

     See you next month in Moncton - Safe Riding!

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 06:34:19 PM »

Just thought I would chime in and write a few lines about my experience in this year's rally.  

Having registered for the wimpy 1,000 km's in 14 hours instead of the 1,600 in 24 hours, I expected that making the distance wouldn't be a problem even though I had never ridden 1,000 km's on a bike in one day before.  Was I wrong?  For the answer, read on.  

What I discovered is that riding in a straight line on a divided highway is different than riding on back country roads while stopping and taking pictures.

First, I have to say that I was unaware about some of the rule.  For example, I did know that there was a penalty for coming short of the 1,000 km's required but I was unaware that going over meant extra points.  

At the start, we took off in pairs starting at 6:30 a.m. two at a time in two minute intervals.  I was in the pair took off 21 minutes after the first pair took off.  The instructions lead us to believe that no matter what time you started, penalties started after 8:30 p.m.   That meant, I thought, that I had just wasted 21 minutes out of the 24 hours.  I only found out after I had checked in that night that I had until 8:51 p.m. to complete the distance.  Oh well.  

Moncton is located in SouthEast New Brunswick not far (approx 60 km's) from the Nova Scotia border.  

The first part of the rally saw us going towards Nova Scotia.  

This year, there were a number of mandatory stops along the route where you had to show proof (polaroid or digital camera) that you had been there.  Some stops required a proof of purchase of something.  Picture points were awarded for every picture of a lighthouse, trail sign, named bridge and tourist bureau.  Some mandatory stops had to be made within a certain time frame.  

Oh, I almost forgot.  The night before the rally, we all received a set of instructions along with a description of the route and options but the organizers played a trick on us and only gave us approx. 350 km's of route.  That meant that we didn't know where we were going after that but since the checkpoint where we had to get our additional instructions was close to the ferry that goes to P.E.I., I suspected that P.E.I. was part of the route.  

Anyhoo, when we got to Nova Scotia, we had a choice to make, either take the Sunrise Trail or the Glooscap Trail.  I had made a decision the night before to take the Sunrise Trail.  It seemed that there were more points to be had on that trail but it was a little shorter.

I was able to make some decent time but the mandatory checkpoints and other stops to take pictures for added points made my average KM per hour less than ideal.    

When we got to the checkpoint where we received the rest of the instructions, it was approx 10:45 a.m.  A quick glance revealed that there was a lot of bonus points to be had if we got a receipt for any purchase in Charlottetown P.E.I.  Without thinking too much, I immediately pointed the front wheel towards the Caribou Ferry and rode like crazy to make the 11:15 crossing.  I got there at 11:00 and the last of the cars were boarding.  I thought for sure that I was screwed because the bikes go on first.  After waiting for a few minutes, the attendant signaled me to go ahead and board.  What a relief that was.  

As soon as I got up on the deck, I started to look for other rally participants and couldn't find any.  When the captain announced that the crossing was going to take approx 1 hr 15 minutes, I thought I was screwed.  I didn't think it would be possible the make up that much idle time.  That meant that instead of having 14 hours to complete 1,000. km's, I had just wasted 1 1/2 hours if you included the time to board and get off the boat.  Plus, if any of you have ever been on P.E.I., you know that you cannot be in a rush when riding there.  Bambis are no problem but farm tractors are.   EEK!  

On the boat, I met two other crazies that had taken a chance with it.  Both were riding Buells of all bikes with no windshiels or anything for protection against the on and off rain we were having up to that point and loud pipes. Plus, they were doing the 1,600. km's in 24 hours.  

On the positive side, being on the ferry allowed me to study the route for the remainder of the rally and eat.  

There were no mandatory stops on the Island other than needing a receipt for a purchase in Charlottetown.  

Once off the boat, panic set in when I looked at the clock but then I decided that que sera sera.  If I got in late, the worst that could happen is that I would lose some points.  Still, I was hoping to be able to make it.  

I had hoped to be able to make it to Charlottetown before my first fuel stop but the big ST - even though it has a 29 litre tank - couldn't make it.  I had to stop just short.  

When I got in Charlottetown, I stopped at a convenience store, bought a bottle of water and asked the clerk for a receipt.  Guess what?  The receipt didn't show anything but numbers.  No "Charlottetown" on it.  Crap!  Now I needed to make another stop.  That meant three stops for what could have been one stop if I had filled my gas tank to the rim before leaving.   Mad2  Next stop was a Shoppers' Drug Mart and I was able to get a proper receipt.  

Have you ever tried to get out ot Charlottetown when you're in a hurry.  Well, let me tell you, it doesn't work.  

The speed limit on the Confederation Bridge is only 80 km's per hour but I didn't care.  I hope all those cameras on the bridge didn't see my plate number.   Bigsmile

Off the bridge and now in N.B. I exceeded the speed limit slightly once or twice.   Lol  

The first mandatory stop in N.B, was in Port Elgin. Again, we had to make a purchase at a particular store and I met my two Buell friends as I was walking out of the store.  One of them had decided that enough was enough and he was heading home.

Now in N.B., I knew my way around like no one else and I just gunned it.  It just so happens that I had just slowed down behind a slower car on the two ocasions that I met a police cruiser at different points in N.B.      

Before we started the rally, we had to give our driver's license to an official who put it in a sealed envelope.  If the seal was broken during the rally, we lost a lot of points.  The story goes that one guy got stopped and after explaining what was going on to the cop, he did not open the envelope.  This guy must be a pretty good salesman.  

As the day went by, I was able to make up the lost time and had apprx 15 minutes to spare at the end plus the extra 21 minutes that I didn't know about.  The last 100 km's was done in torrential rains but with all of the protection that the the big ST gives, I was able to maintain a good pace.  

In the end, I finished 6th out of 17 that did the 1,000 km's.  

Huron52 of ST.N also did the 1,000 km's and AFA_ST did the 1,600 kms.  I'll let them write about their own experiences if they so wish.    

Oh, I almost forgot, here's two pictures.  The first one is just before the start and the second one is that of a lighthouse on the course in Pointe Sapin N.B.  



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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 06:35:39 PM »

Oops, only one appeared.  Here's the other one.  

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2007, 09:42:32 AM »

Oh I have a little time here so I thought I would sit down and give a short story as to my 1000kms rally.
   This was my first type of rally that I didn't just have to ride. I will say that it is simply time management. That was my/our down fall. As the riders left at two at a time and 21 riders someone had to start at the back of the pack. That would be me   and he guy I rode with all day. I wasn’t 100% sure where I was going to I hung out with
   Sjek  the whole day. He was from Nova Scotia so I figured he knew where he was going.
    We started out 30 minutes from the first people the started. That was not a problem because we got those 30 minutes back at the end of the rally. We didn’t have to be back in until 9pm instead of 8:30pm
     At one of our semi first stop we had to take a picture of the sign at the front of the local prison. Not noticing the answer to one of the questions on the sign at the edge of the property, we rode up to one of the building to get the answer. That meant that we rode on the property. We had a visit with the guards which luckily just gave us a warning after we telling what we where doing there.  They told us they could have taken our cameras. That would have been a major point penalty  for the rally.  
   There was a couple of timed check points, one was at Mass town market which we needed a time stamp receipt. Our time stamp showed us to be in the middle of the required time. I thought that’s good. We are right on time. I did notice that our kilometers where not adding up fast.  The next timed check point was to get the other half of the route or stops. We were closer to the end of that time frame. Still I wasn’t really too worried.
   We decided not to go to PEI; I had been there early in the week and knew the traffic in and out of Charlottetown would be crazy.  We rode up along the coast line stopping at lighthouses, and tourist booths to pick up points (picture of bike and towel in front of)  
   As the day wore on I was watching the klicks and had some concern that they going on fast enough. At our last mandatory stop we headed back to the check in. We got back to Moncton about an hour before we needed to check in but my odometer didn’t say 100kms. If you could back with less that 1000 you are a DNF. So we ran back and forth and back and forth on the 4 lanes highways until I got 1000kms in.
   We were an hour passed the time so we got a penalty of 250 points.  We finished 10th out of 21.
   In hind sight we should have picked up the pace for the whole day. If we would have gotten in on time we would have jumped to about 5th or 6th. The points were that close together.
  All in all it was a good rally. I met  a lot of good people.  I right now I think I will be back for next year.  I know there are a few places I haven’t seen.
    I will take my heated gear, zero my GPS at the start. That way I will stay warmer in the rain and keep on tabs of my time vs distance traveled.

   
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2009, 06:07:07 AM »

Anyone know what happened to the ALDERS web site?
http://www.aldersland.com/
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2009, 05:25:08 PM »

Graham who has been the Rally Master for the last couple of years has informed us that he is stepping down.  

To my knowledge, nobody has decided to carry the torch for 2009.   Shrug    

I haven't spoken to him Graham directly about his decision but the fact that two riders went down during last year's rally may have played a part in his decision.  

If Scott (Canadian FJR) sees this thread maybe he can elaborate.  
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2009, 07:26:32 AM »

Because I did the rally two years in a row, Graham sent me a e mail telling of not doing it this year. I sent him an e mail thanking for his work.
 I don't totally remember all the reasons but what Leon mention could have weight on him.
  I also know that the person that did the website has got busy with family life. At the banquet when they handed out the awards he told the crowd that he was getting to busy and asked if someone else to take on the website.  A brand new set of twins last year can do that.

 I also asked Canadian FJR if he was going to take up the torch but he didn't give me that impression.

It was a fun event.... I enjoyed it. Even if I just did the 14hour ride.

 
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