ZZR12 has an awesome engine

[GS1100GK]

The fact that the big Z has so much hp in the well, amazes me.
With a slight twist of the throttle I'm passing a line cars with out effort - with or with out a passenger

No complaints here about this powerful machine

Add to your list....without a downshift either!

[Spectreman]

I average about 35 MPG from my ZZR. The only engine mods have been Muzzy slip-on cans & the needles being raised slightly. I'm a little dissapointed w/the gas mileage but certainyl not w/the power the bike puts out cuz it's a rocketship!!!
Lee

[Squareman357]

I know the ZX-14 has a fantastic motor and will out perform the ZZR1200 in every category except overall comfort and fuel mileage.  IMHO.  

Don't believe the hype.  At 65-70 in 6th gear I can get 50 mpg easy.  I average about 36 city and 42 highway.  Running the highway at 85-90 mph I routinely get 200 miles out of a tank, filling up with about 5.2 gallons, for a 38.5 mpg average.  Having ridden a ZZR1200, I can tell you that matching the comfort is a set of bar risers and a peg lowering kit away, depending on the rider.  Stock for stock, the ZX-14 felt as comfortable to me over a 100 mile ride as the ZZR1200.  Trust me, the ZX-14 is, or can be made to be, every bit as comfortable as the ZZR1200, while out performing it in every measurable way.  The ZZR14 (European designation) IS the successor to the ZZR12 after all, so that should come as no surprise.

[blakebird]

Don't believe the hype.  At 65-70 in 6th gear I can get 50 mpg easy.  I average about 36 city and 42 highway.  Running the highway at 85-90 mph I routinely get 200 miles out of a tank,

What he said.

I've gone well over 200 miles per tank many times. 80mph in top gear is loafing at 4k rpms. The ZX-14 motor is based more on the ZX-10R architecture, and is 'next gen' in all respects. Very smooth, very refined.
I'm at just under 18,000 miles and have had zero issues with anything on the bike.

not to hijack a ZZX1200 love festival or anything....but the 14 is the shizzle, right squareman?

[Squareman357]

What he said.

I've gone well over 200 miles per tank many times. 80mph in top gear is loafing at 4k rpms. The ZX-14 motor is based more on the ZX-10R architecture, and is 'next gen' in all respects. Very smooth, very refined.
I'm at just under 18,000 miles and have had zero issues with anything on the bike.

not to hijack a ZZX1200 love festival or anything....but the 14 is the shizzle, right squareman?

All day every day.  I was experimenting coming in today, and at 60 mph, talk about loafing engines, I was barely pulling 2500 RPM.  65-70 pushed me to a hair under 3000 RPM.  I have no doubts I could do 250 miles BEFORE reserve at those speeds in final gear.  The ZZR1200 is a great bike with loads of power, panache, and comfort, but the ONLY thing it has over the ZZR1400 (ZX-14) is the hard bags.  I really wish it had come with hard bags, and the US version had gotten the ABS, but at about 13,000 miles, it's nothing but smiles every time I throw a leg over.

[1KPerDay]

Get your own thread, you dorks.




(P.S. I want a ZX-14 baaaaaaaaad. )

[GS1100GK]

Don't believe the hype.  At 65-70 in 6th gear I can get 50 mpg easy.  I average about 36 city and 42 highway.  Running the highway at 85-90 mph I routinely get 200 miles out of a tank, filling up with about 5.2 gallons, for a 38.5 mpg average.  Having ridden a ZZR1200, I can tell you that matching the comfort is a set of bar risers and a peg lowering kit away, depending on the rider.  Stock for stock, the ZX-14 felt as comfortable to me over a 100 mile ride as the ZZR1200.  Trust me, the ZX-14 is, or can be made to be, every bit as comfortable as the ZZR1200, while out performing it in every measurable way.  The ZZR14 (European designation) IS the successor to the ZZR12 after all, so that should come as no surprise.

Sorry fellas.  Just quoting what I saw posted on zzrbikes.com from 2 people who I know have the ZX14.  Most people over there agree the ZZR1200 is more comfortable at least in regards to wind protection.  Similarly, the gas mileage figures were provided by those other riders as well.  Given a restrained wrist and I'm sure the ZX14 will return good gas mileage too.  Just quoting what my friends who own them have told me.  I own a ZZR1200 and have ridden the ZX14 and can say definitively the ZZR1200 pushes more air around the rider.  The ZZR1200's profile is wider and I believe taller so there is more frontal area to push the air away from the rider.  Then again, comfort is all just opinion isn't it?

 

[Dakota]

It is just hard for me to imagine the 14 being more comfortable than the ZZR.  Smoother, yes, I can buy that.....

[Squareman357]

The way the bike is sculpted, the only area where you're getting much wind is over the short windscreen.  An appropriate double-bubble, or touring screen like the Laminar Lip will fix that. The air I get coming over the windscreen is very clean though, not a lot of buffeting or noise, and I have a fairly long torso at 6'3", and I've done nearly 1000 mile days on it with no fatigue issues.  As far as the gas mileage, either bike will suck down gas faster than a thirsty man in the desert at an oasis, if you're grabbing the go-handle too hard LOL! Didn't 1K say he was getting mid to upper 20's?    Moderate user of the go-handle nets better mileage, both in fuel consumption and tire consumption.  And GS1100GK, I didn't say MORE comfortable, I said it could be AS comfortable.  The ZZR1200 is a very comfortable long distance mount, that's for sure.

[Dakota]

The way the bike is sculpted, the only area where you're getting much wind is over the short windscreen.  An appropriate double-bubble, or touring screen like the Laminar Lip will fix that. The air I get coming over the windscreen is very clean though, not a lot of buffeting or noise, and I have a fairly long torso at 6'3", and I've done nearly 1000 mile days on it with no fatigue issues.  As far as the gas mileage, either bike will suck down gas faster than a thirsty man in the desert at an oasis, if you're grabbing the go-handle too hard LOL! Didn't 1K say he was getting mid to upper 20's?    Moderate user of the go-handle nets better mileage, both in fuel consumption and tire consumption.  And GS1100GK, I didn't say MORE comfortable, I said it could be AS comfortable.  The ZZR1200 is a very comfortable long distance mount, that's for sure.

I'm also 6'3"...damn, now I will be thinkin' about the damned ZX-14..lol

[Spectreman]

I don't ride my ZZR like a madman at all & only average 35 MPG. The only mechanical mods done were shimmed needles and Muzzy slip-ons. I love the ZZR's power but am sorely disappointed w/the MPG quotient. My ZRX averaged 43+ no matter how I rode that bike; sometimes I was over 50+ MPG if it was a highway ride- not so w/the ZZR.
Lee

[ZZR12]

I agree mine is a tad thirsty,but with the Ivan's jet kit and the Remus 4-2-1 exhaust who cares about mileage the bike hauls. Also the bike only will handle as good as the rider,I routinly ride with repliracers and I'm never at the back of the pack everyone tells me its heavy (thats true) but I've never had a grip problem (Conti road attacks) and I surprise a good deal of people on a twisty road, and all I've done is installed a fork brace.

[1KPerDay]

I don't ride my ZZR like a madman at all & only average 35 MPG. The only mechanical mods done were shimmed needles and Muzzy slip-ons. I love the ZZR's power but am sorely disappointed w/the MPG quotient. My ZRX averaged 43+ no matter how I rode that bike; sometimes I was over 50+ MPG if it was a highway ride- not so w/the ZZR.
Lee

Yeah, but the ZZR's got about 30-40 more HP.