Sept. Meet in Monterey?

[rc30boy]

I'm hearing rumbles about WCRM 4.5 or whatever it is by now, what does the general public thing of doing it in Monterey on the 14th-16th, just in time for the AMA National?  It's not nearly as big a race as the GP, and there are still campsites at the track, as well as hotel/motel rooms in town.  Whadda ya think?

[Mr Sunshine]

Um....that could work since the last two .5's have been further north so we should make a concession and do it further south.

[Rogue]

September is THE BEST time to visit that area.  The summer fog will rarely be seen.  The temps normally would be in the 70's.  Finally, the tourist crowds of summer have mostly gone home.

I did a ride to the Bay Area last year in early Oct and the weather was absolutely perfect.

[MisterSmooth]

Three weeks until the WCRM and we're planning the next one?

Perfect!  

I'm down with Monterey.  This would be easy for the SoCal contingent who had a tough time getting to Baker City last year, too.  Long haul for the guys from Boise, but maybe that's fair after Baker City.

North of the Bay Area would be good, too.  Healdsburg or thereabouts?  And obviously there was considerable talk of having the meet in Ashland, OR.  

[Mr Sunshine]

Three weeks until the WCRM and we're planning the next one?

Um you mean two weeks...it is the weekend of the 19th after all.

and no Ashland.....that's not even close to the Bay Area.  Healdsburg would work for me.

[atypical1]

Monterey would be cool! I love that area in Sept!

[DogBoy]

Monterey would be very good. The AMA races should be cool without the huge crowds and signage blocking so much of the track as it does during the World Championship races.

BUT, every year there is endless discussion about having the Spring WCRM somewhere in the Sierra and every year we argue that the roads will be closed or wet or covered with sand. Fall in the Sierra is really nice, the roads are less crowded and in perfect shape.

[MisterSmooth]

Um you mean two weeks...it is the weekend of the 19th after all.

and no Ashland.....that's not even close to the Bay Area.  Healdsburg would work for me.

You hate Ashland, Chris.  Why are you hatin' on Ashland?  Don't like Shakespeare?  

Really, it's not that bad.  Nice weather, good roads.  Much less traffic than in the Bay Area.

[MisterSmooth]

Monterey would be very good. The AMA races should be cool without the huge crowds and signage blocking so much of the track as it does during the World Championship races.

BUT, every year there is endless discussion about having the Spring WCRM somewhere in the Sierra and every year we argue that the roads will be closed or wet or covered with sand. Fall in the Sierra is really nice, the roads are less crowded and in perfect shape.

How about Quincy, CA?  Conveniently sited at one end of the fabled Oroville-Quincy highway.  

[Sport]

Here's a very m/c friendly place to stay in the mountains north of Santa Cruz.  Pool, bar, restaurant with a creek running thru it.

http://www.brookdalelodge.com/

[Dr Gil]

How about Fortuna for 4.5!  

[Req]

I think we need to have three or four polls, each invalidating the last, before someone makes a command decision and we all bitch about it but go anyway.  

[DogBoy]

I think we need to have three or four polls, each invalidating the last, before someone makes a command decision and we all bitch about it but go anyway.  

I'd be disappointed if we didn't.  

[Mr Sunshine]

You hate Ashland, Chris.  Why are you hatin' on Ashland?  Don't like Shakespeare?  

Really, it's not that bad.  Nice weather, good roads.  Much less traffic than in the Bay Area.

The roads aren't that good and its in Oregon.  Almost everything in Oregon sucks ass and is boring.  

[Mr Sunshine]

I'd be disappointed if we didn't.  

http://www.sport-touring.net/forums/index.php/topic,8241.new.html#new


There no disappointment now.

[bizarro]

How about Fortuna for 4.5!  

Gil tries his hand at trolling.

[rc30boy]

I must have said something remarkably rainy to Mr. Sunshine, thus making Ashland a poor choice

[Mr Sunshine]

I must have said something remarkably rainy to Mr. Sunshine, thus making Ashland a poor choice

Its not personal against you....just your entire state.  

[Nny]

Monterey is fine for me.  I grew up there and it's an hour and a half from my house.  

[bsd43]

One big negative about Monterey is that the hotels know very well what weekends to gouge customers, and that anything major going on at Laguna Seca will mean $$$. And it's so spread out -- anything close to the track would not be close to convenient boozing locales.

[greench440]

You hate Ashland, Chris.  Why are you hatin' on Ashland?  Don't like Shakespeare?  

Really, it's not that bad.  Nice weather, good roads.  Much less traffic than in the Bay Area.

It's the hairy boehmian theater chicks getting him down.

[Mr Sunshine]

It's the hairy boehmian theater chicks getting him down.

Its the speed limit combined with the weather and the "I know better than you" Northwestern.  I rag on Washington too but I'm stuck here for awhile.

[Dr Gil]

Um....that could work since the last two .5's have been further north so we should make a concession and do it further south.

Maybe we should have two non-WCRM events.  WCRM IV ver. 33 1/3 north and WCRM IV ver. 66 2/3 south.  

Let's vote on it...

I know, I know...I'm not being at all helpful  

[MisterSmooth]

Its the speed limit combined with the weather and the "I know better than you" Northwestern.  I rag on Washington too but I'm stuck here for awhile.

Speed limit?  Didn't seem to bother you at last year's WCRM.     I don't think we saw a cop anywhere in Eastern Oregon.  Or maybe we were just going too fast to notice.

[Mr Sunshine]

Speed limit?  Didn't seem to bother you at last year's WCRM.     I don't think we saw a cop anywhere in Eastern Oregon.  Or maybe we were just going too fast to notice.

It was raining and I was trying to get out of Oregon as fast as I can.  

[Jeff N]

One big negative about Monterey is that the hotels know very well what weekends to gouge customers, and that anything major going on at Laguna Seca will mean $$$.

This is true and there's usually a minimum number of nights that need to be reserved. The place I've stayed at in Carmel Valley during the races now requires a 4 night minimum, though thankfully they haven't raised their prices in the past few years, so the bite isn't too painful especially when split between a number of people.

[jwhite518]

Agreed, Monterey is $$$. If we're aiming at good roads within a radius, how about Cambria? King City? Paso?

[kurtw]

I don't know the roads around Monterey. Does it have anything going for it other than proximity to racing?

Of the options discussed, the Sierras sounds interesting. But I notice that it's not in the list of poll choices in the other thread.  

[Dr Gil]

Ok, Monterey sucks...expensive, multi-day motels and no roads...let's choose somewhere else  

I vote for Fortuna.  

[Rogue]

I don't know the roads around Monterey. Does it have anything going for it other than proximity to racing?

No.  All the roads around Monterey sucks.  

[rc30boy]

Not that we need to go there, but how do you figure no roads around Montery?  There's Carmel Valley Road, Hwy 1, Alices Restaurant (ask the bay area riders) and Skyline Blvd., Naciemento-Ferguson Rd., as well as all the roads just on the east side of the coastal range but not quite at Hwy 101. So whaddya mean no roads?

[Nny]

If we're going to Alice's we'd be better off staying in Santa Cruz.  Hwy 1 is really boring between Monterey and SC.

[jwhite518]

If we're going to Alice's we'd be better off staying in Santa Cruz.  Hwy 1 is really boring between Monterey and SC.

Seriously...Alice's?  

[bsd43]

For Alice's, I'm staying in my own bed.  

[Nny]

Seriously...Alice's?  

Seriously Alice's what?

For Alice's, I'm staying in my own bed.  

Yeah, me too, but I figured I'd chime in about the boring part of hwy 1 between Monterey and Santa Cruz.

[kurtw]

Nothing against AMA races or Alices (never been there)...
...But for a meet, I'd rather we create our own event than to glom onto some existing m/c scene.

We're not that boring are we? :lol

[Nny]

I've never been there either, but the ride up there would rock from Santa Cruz.

[jwhite518]

Seriously Alice's what?

Alice's is not the greatest place to base a STN weekend.
1. Too familiar to many of us.
2. Too many cops and squids on weekends.
3. Not really enough riding to keep you busy for a whole day (or weekend for that matter.) Unless you want to ride on freeways to get other places. (Mt Ham, Hwy 1, 25, etc)

OTOH, if you just want to make the scene and ogle bikes, it's good.

[Nny]

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting we base the weekend there.  Someone mentioned going there from Monterey and I wanted them to know about the 45 minutes of between Monterey and Santa Cruz on hwy 1.

[jwhite518]

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting we base the weekend there.  Someone mentioned going there from Monterey and I wanted them to know about the 45 minutes of between Monterey and Santa Cruz on hwy 1.

OHhhhhh! Never mind then.  

[Sport]

http://alicesrestaurant.com/

http://www.brookdalelodge.com/

Plenty of riding room on the mountain roads north of Santa Cruz.  Check out the restaurant at Brookdale.

[Rogue]

Not that we need to go there, but how do you figure no roads around Montery?  There's Carmel Valley Road, Hwy 1, Alices Restaurant (ask the bay area riders) and Skyline Blvd., Naciemento-Ferguson Rd., as well as all the roads just on the east side of the coastal range but not quite at Hwy 101. So whaddya mean no roads?

You talkin' to me?

Tongue-in-Cheeck....get it?  

[Biglar]

I love it there! Rooms may be an issue but there is camping at Luguna Seca (I don't camp....). Lot's of great food too!