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« on: May 21, 2007, 04:43:34 AM »

Coming back from my triathlon yesterday I was driving around 695 in Md, saw a guy on what appeared to be a R1 without the bottom fairing.  So as I look closer I see he's wearing a full on moto-gp suit.  Complete with all the sliders and the mound on the back of the suit.  Thought it was pretty funny, if I had my camera I would have written a note that said, "smile squid" and taken a picture Bigsmile  I may have to go buy a cheapo digital camera just so I can start taking pictures of all the funny things I see on the highway.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 05:00:47 AM »

I don't get it.  What is so funny about a guy on an R1 in full leathers?  Did you expect shorts and a tshirt?
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 05:46:12 AM »

Sounds like he was a fully geared motorcyclist to me, not a squid.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 05:54:40 AM »

Most squids aren't going to spend $600-$1500 on a full leather suit.  
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 06:00:03 AM »

Was he wearing tennis shoes or something?

I've seen that one before.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 06:40:05 AM »

Hope you don't pass me going the other way on I-81, I-581. I-83, or I-283 on my way to work. You'll think I'm a squid since I wear full leathers on my commute sans knee sliders or speed hump though. Headscratch
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 07:16:36 AM »

That's not a squid!


THIS is a squid!

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 07:39:05 AM »

Don't he look comfortable?
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 07:41:42 AM »

Might he have just come from a (somewhat unsuccessful) track day? Maybe you haven't heard of those, being crusty old Guzzi rider.  Razz
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 07:45:23 AM »

I don't wear full leathers just riding around town (have a set of textiles for that), but I'll wear my full leathers riding through town to get to all the good twisty bits on the other side...

He was probably just geared up going to/from wherever he was REALLY riding...

Now full leathers and a cruiser-style "German" helmet; full leathers and sneakers; full leathers and no gloves... then I could see him being a squid...

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2007, 08:21:39 AM »


Coming back from my triathlon yesterday I was driving around 695 in Md, saw a guy on what appeared to be a R1 without the bottom fairing.  So as I look closer I see he's wearing a full on moto-gp suit.  Complete with all the sliders and the mound on the back of the suit.  Thought it was pretty funny, if I had my camera I would have written a note that said, "smile squid" and taken a picture Bigsmile  I may have to go buy a cheapo digital camera just so I can start taking pictures of all the funny things I see on the highway.

Only difference between that rider and me is the hump in the back of the leathers and the lower fairing.  I'm pretty sure I'm not a squid.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2007, 08:30:05 AM »

I've never seen any street rider with the hump on the back of his suit.  I think wearing the leather suit was smart, but if you can afford a full moto gp suit with the hump, then you should be able to afford one without the hump.  The hump is what I thought made him squidish.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2007, 08:48:20 AM »

Uh... yeah, that's the exact opposite of a squid.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2007, 08:54:38 AM »


I've never seen any street rider with the hump on the back of his suit.  


Now that the aero hump has become commonplace in pro racing I'm sure you'll be seeing more of it on the street.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2007, 08:58:03 AM »


I've never seen any street rider with the hump on the back of his suit.


What 'ump?

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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2007, 09:01:17 AM »

To me, having a hump on the back of your leather suit while riding public roads is like a Honda Civic have a big Formula One type wing or a coffee can muffler.  Is it going to make that much of a difference on the street??  Nope.  Might look cool on the track, but it looks gay on the street.  Keep the leather, lose the hump.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2007, 09:06:46 AM »

I just don't get the problem with this one, fully geared but gear has hump....=squid  Headscratch

I have knee pucks on my leathers, I guess I am a squid, they must look stupid on the street.. Sad
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2007, 09:20:54 AM »

Is the hump for aerodynamics, or does it keep the helmet from rocking too far backwards in the event of an accident, like a neck brace?  Or is it for water? Bigsmile
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2007, 09:24:57 AM »


To me, having a hump on the back of your leather suit while riding public roads is like a Honda Civic have a big Formula One type wing or a coffee can muffler.  Is it going to make that much of a difference on the street??  Nope. Might look cool on the track, but it looks gay on the street.


Guess what buddy. Riding on the street is more dangerous than riding on the track. The hump is definitely not going to hurt, and even if it helps just a teeny bit, then it's worth the effort as far as that guy is concerned. As far as it looking "gay on the street"...sounds like you're the poser if anyone is. How old are you? 16?  Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gong to install my coffee can muffler on the Geo. Twofinger
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Guess what buddy. Riding on the street is more dangerous than riding on the track. The hump is definitely not going to hurt, and even if it helps just a teeny bit, then it's worth the effort as far as that guy is concerned. As far as it looking "gay on the street"...sounds like you're the poser if anyone is. How old are you? 16?  Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gong to install my coffee can muffler on the Geo. Twofinger


I love it how people who accuse someone of being immature or say 16, are always the first one's to flip the bird.  So my views of what is squidish/gay are different from others, I never said knee/elbow pucks were wrong (I see their purpose and are smart).  I don't see how the hump, which is for aerodynamics (tear drop shape creates less turbulance=faster), would help on the street.  If you crash and land on that hump you could cause the reverse of what some might be thinking its good for.  You might see me in leathers on the street, but not with the hump.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2007, 09:44:53 AM »

Maybe he has one set of leathers uses them for track days and street riding taking the chance that wearing track leathers on the street might offend you.
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2007, 09:45:30 AM »


 You might see me in leathers on the street, but not with the hump.


What 'ump?!


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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2007, 09:48:12 AM »

if crashing with a hump is gonna hurt me more than not having one, i'm screwed.

seriously, if those who race professionally knew they would get hurt more with one, they wouldn't wear it. they crash at 180+ sometimes, run-off or not, it's gonna hurt so why would they make it worse?

you're view of a squid is way off.
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2007, 10:01:52 AM »

Maybe the suit with the hump was on sale?  Bargain Basements ROCK!  At least for us mortals.
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2007, 10:10:16 AM »

Oh gorsh a speed hump!! OMG what's next, armor?!?

I'd wear a suit with a speed hump if I could still wear a backpack with it.  

Mocking someone for wearing safety gear that doesn't fit into your fashion sense is infinitely gay-er than that whatever it was you were making fun of.  (besides the fact that you're wrong)
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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2007, 10:12:28 AM »

I'm confused (doesn't take much).  My Spidi touring leather suit with small hump is gay?  Is it sexually active and I don't know about it, too?  How does it get phone numbers?  Does it come out of the closet (pun intended) while I'm at work?  Does it get phone numbers of other leather suits or of human partners?  Is it lesbian or man gay?  

It's got a small hump.  Does that mean it is bi?  Or just experimenting?  Will it get rid of the hump if it decides it's really hetero?

Who uses gay in this context anyway?  Isn't the proper term, "alternate sexual orientation"?
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2007, 10:31:58 AM »

well, it seems I'm the only one on this board with this view.  Must be me and the guys at my work that ride because they all have the same feelings I do toward the subject.  So wear whatever floats your boat.
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2007, 10:45:42 AM »


To me, having a hump on the back of your leather suit while riding public roads is like a Honda Civic have a big Formula One type wing or a coffee can muffler.  Is it going to make that much of a difference on the street??  Nope.  Might look cool on the track, but it looks gay on the street.  Keep the leather, lose the hump.


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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2007, 10:58:25 AM »


well, it seems I'm the only one on this board with this view.  Must be me and the guys at my work that ride because they all have the same feelings I do toward the subject.  So wear whatever floats your boat.


Naw -- Riders on aerostich suits look like they should be riding snowmobiles.  Anything other than black motoport suits look like bulky pajamas.  I probably look like a f**kin' poser with pucks and a speed hump but I don't look at myself while riding. Lol
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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2007, 11:29:15 AM »

Well, the hump is only good for more speed, so it's useless on the street.

What the hell do you think all the fancy plastic bodywork on sportbikes is for?  To slow them down?

I'm going out to the garage right now to remove all the turbulence-reducing, speed-increasing body work on my Sprint.  It has no place on the street.


Sheesh, maybe the hump was there to offset the increased turbulence from the loss of the lower fairing.
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2007, 01:45:50 PM »


well, it seems I'm the only one on this board with this view.  Must be me and the guys at my work that ride because they all have the same feelings I do toward the subject.  So wear whatever floats your boat.


I kind of understand your logic, in that the rider probably will not have the opportunity to take advantage of the reduction in drag coefficiant from the hump when street riding, it's the 'squid' stereotype application that might be upsetting some of these folks.

Now if the rider was sitting on the tank in a wheelie during rush hour traffic, with a radio bungee strapped to his bike fairing stay, blasting the 'MY HUMP....MY HUMP MY HUMP MY HUMP..."  song while he pointed to his back..... Ummm yeah, use the squid stereotype.

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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2007, 02:05:11 PM »

What he was wearing isn't the problem.  How was he riding?  Was he doing triple the speed limit and getting knees down on all the corners in traffic, or was he just riding?

The former is being a squid (IMO) regardless of skill.  Yes, you can be skilled yet still be a squid. Twofinger
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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2007, 02:37:56 PM »


I'm confused (doesn't take much).  My Spidi touring leather suit with small hump is gay?  Is it sexually active and I don't know about it, too?  How does it get phone numbers?  Does it come out of the closet (pun intended) while I'm at work?  Does it get phone numbers of other leather suits or of human partners?  Is it lesbian or man gay?  

It's got a small hump.  Does that mean it is bi?  Or just experimenting?  Will it get rid of the hump if it decides it's really hetero?

Who uses gay in this context anyway?  Isn't the proper term, "alternate sexual orientation"?



 Lol Lol Lol "I woke up this morning, and my humpy suit was gone again...it must have been out cruising the bars."
A fair number of the sportbike crowd wear leathers with aero-humps 'round here. Better to sport overprotective bling than the reverse, no?
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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2007, 02:57:36 PM »


To me, having a hump on the back of your leather suit while riding public roads is like a Honda Civic have a big Formula One type wing or a coffee can muffler.  Is it going to make that much of a difference on the street??  Nope.  Might look cool on the track, but it looks gay on the street.  Keep the leather, lose the hump.


Wow, I used to be such a squid  Lol the hump, knee sliders and my NESBA#.

Yea, I knew I looked a little goofy riding like that (this picture was taken on the Cherohala), but the day before I did a track day in Indy and figured since we towed the bike this far, we'd tow it some more and do Deal's Gap as well  Wink  I wasn't going to  bring a whole other outfit to ride the "streets"  Bigok  Headscratch Who cares what people wear as long as they wear motorcycle gear  Bigsmile



BTW... I also use my hump as a purse, no need for a tank bag Lol there is a zipper at the top, and the inside is hollow, surrounded by foam.

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BTW... I also use my hump as a purse, no need for a tank bag Lol there is a zipper at the top, and the inside is hollow, surrounded by foam.




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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2007, 04:51:19 PM »


I've never seen any street rider with the hump on the back of his suit.  I think wearing the leather suit was smart, but if you can afford a full moto gp suit with the hump, then you should be able to afford one without the hump.  The hump is what I thought made him squidish.
The guy probably races. I would never call anybody in full leathers a squid, unless he was doing something really stupid at the time.
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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2007, 04:55:02 PM »


Is the hump for aerodynamics, or does it keep the helmet from rocking too far backwards in the event of an accident, like a neck brace?  Or is it for water? Bigsmile


Aerodynamics.  Don't do anything for keeping your helmet rocking too far backwards.

On the aerodynamics side it helps keep your head stabile....at speds over 100mph in a full tuck. Smile
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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2007, 05:07:45 PM »

Plus you can put a water bladder in there. Or one of them fancy cooling fans (which I really want bad!)
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2007, 05:08:27 PM »




BTW... I also use my hump as a purse, no need for a tank bag Lol there is a zipper at the top, and the inside is hollow, surrounded by foam.




Oh COOL!!!  Now can we start talking about man purses???  Lol rofl

Great pic, VIVID1 !!!
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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2007, 07:08:23 PM »

I wear my Syed suit on the street and it has a hump. I bought it for the track, which is where I do almost of my riding, but when I go up to Deal’s Gap that is what I wear.

The hump serves no purpose on the street, but I am not going to shell out $1200+ for another set of leathers to use on the street just so it doesn't have a hump. I use my knee sliders on the street though  Twofinger
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« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2007, 01:06:47 AM »

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Sorry you kind of walked right into this one.  You know the net; either you are for the hump or you are not.

You can certainly find the hump amusing or funny; that's personal taste.

But calling it squidly is actually incorrect.  And in fact it's the opposite of squidly.  That's why others are taking you to task, you don't know the definitions.  Definitions are not a matter of interpretation.  So that rider for the reasons you cite as being squidly are incorrect.  If you had just said you found it odd, funny or downright hysterical, this thread would've never gotten past 5 posts.
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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2007, 01:27:03 AM »








Hey look! It's Frau Blucher!!  (weeeeeehheeehheeeheee)

omg..I am just kidding!   Lol
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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2007, 01:31:43 AM »

  Boy did you stick you pecker in a hornets nest w/ this one! Net time you wanna see shit stirred, go to a waste treatment facility Lol. Bigok
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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2007, 03:30:03 AM »

shhh...maybe she won't see this!   Lol
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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2007, 07:49:01 AM »

The true squid is what I saw a couple weeks back. Tshirt flying up his back, shorts, sandels, helmet on the helmet holder. Going 70MPH on the interstate in a full tuck. Not sure if the full tuck was to feel like he was ricky racer or just to keep the wind off him at 70.

Another note was a guy who was wearing a jacket and helmet. Hanging pratically his whole ass off his bike, while going around a decreaseing radius on ramp. At 25 MPH because the tuna boat in front of us was't going any faster.
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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2007, 08:05:17 AM »

You mean he wasn't talking on a cell phone and had a helmet straped to the back of the bike but nothing on his head???!!! (while trying to reposition his BIG GULP better between his handlebars and windshield)
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« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2007, 08:09:02 AM »


I've never seen any street rider with the hump on the back of his suit.  I think wearing the leather suit was smart, but if you can afford a full moto gp suit with the hump, then you should be able to afford one without the hump.  The hump is what I thought made him squidish.


So what you're saying is if you ride on the street and on the track you need to buy 2 sets of leathers? Your logic astounds me.  Rolleyes
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« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2007, 08:10:54 AM »

Guess you can use the hump to hide your stash!!   Lol
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« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2007, 08:24:42 AM »

Rush To Judgement!! If I take care of my own shit, I don't have so much time to take care of yours.
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« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2007, 08:31:44 AM »

I saw a guy the other day riding an R1 with flip flops, shorts, no shirt, no gloves, full face helmet, and holding a FEDEX box to the tank with his stomach.  Now that was squidly.  

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« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2007, 09:07:39 AM »

Hey all, new to the board but saw this thread and thought I'd jump in. A few years ago I was waiting at the top of highway 9 and along comes a guy in full leathers (no hump thus not gay) on an RC51. He wanted to chat and while we were standing there whipped out a Tequiza from his leathers and started pounding it. I had to suppress a laugh because I didn't know they still even made that god awful stuff.  Lol  Now that guy...was a squid, no doubt in my mind.
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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2007, 10:01:18 AM »


 and while we were standing there whipped out a Tequiza from his leathers and started pounding it.


I had to look that up.  That's a little better than what I'd initially thought you was talking about.
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« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2007, 10:41:41 AM »






When he saw the guy in his gear, he says "Squid", if he would have seen you in your gear, he says "I'm in love"        Inlove
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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2007, 07:48:22 AM »

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I must be a squid too.......

Hmm..... Whatever.
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« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2007, 08:56:23 AM »

wheelsucker, perhaps the controversy here is in the terminology and not the intent.

I would maybe call this guy a poser (or poseur for the quasi-french among us) instead of a squid.  Here in the flat, straight corner of America that I live in, a guy dressed like that would seem over dressed (in the wrong set of protective gear?) unless he was coming back from a road trip to somewhere that has more real corners than off ramps.

If he was sitting on his bike at the Dariy Queen down at Virginia Beach with that gear on and 2 inch chicken strips, he might be a poser.  And you would be able to differentiate the posers from the squids because the squids would be wearing the mandatory t-shirt, khaki's, skull cap helmet, and sneakers.

What do you think?

Vivid is definitely not a squid, but if she was on the Cherohala just hanging out at a scenic overlook and puttering around with all that gear on, she MIGHT be called a poser (just an example....)

I almost think a poser with ATGATT might be the safer of the two at least to himself.

As always IMHO.
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What he was wearing isn't the problem.  How was he riding?  Was he doing triple the speed limit and getting knees down on all the corners in traffic, or was he just riding?

The former is being a squid (IMO) regardless of skill.  Yes, you can be skilled yet still be a squid. Twofinger

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« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2007, 06:04:12 PM »


wheelsucker, perhaps the controversy here is in the terminology and not the intent.

I would maybe call this guy a poser (or poseur for the quasi-french among us) instead of a squid.  Here in the flat, straight corner of America that I live in, a guy dressed like that would seem over dressed (in the wrong set of protective gear?) unless he was coming back from a road trip to somewhere that has more real corners than off ramps.

If he was sitting on his bike at the Dariy Queen down at Virginia Beach with that gear on and 2 inch chicken strips, he might be a poser.  And you would be able to differentiate the posers from the squids because the squids would be wearing the mandatory t-shirt, khaki's, skull cap helmet, and sneakers.

What do you think?

Vivid is definitely not a squid, but if she was on the Cherohala just hanging out at a scenic overlook and puttering around with all that gear on, she MIGHT be called a poser (just an example....)

I almost think a poser with ATGATT might be the safer of the two at least to himself.

As always IMHO.


Thanks for the clarification, there were some well thought posts to my hasty generalization.  I believe you are right though that this guy was a poser.  This guys and the guys he was riding with were parked on the fast side shoulder of 695 just talking when I initially saw them, they then passed me in a full tuck at about 75mph.  Don't know if that qualifies for whatever category, but as another poster suggested, it looked funny too because I had never seen it before.  The riders in my office also thought it was pretty funny/odd.  

Also, women bikers are hot Inlove  Doesn't matter what tey're wearing.
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« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2007, 10:13:17 PM »

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« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2007, 02:38:30 AM »



Also, women bikers are hot Inlove  Doesn't matter what they're wearing.



Please rethink that.

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« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2007, 05:27:10 AM »

I'm glad we talked. Smile
It is important to get our insults straight so we can all be on the same page.
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« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2007, 01:31:59 PM »

...I believe you are right though that this guy was a poser.  This guys and the guys he was riding with were parked on the fast side shoulder of 695 just talking when I initially saw them, they then passed me in a full tuck at about 75mph...


Aaargh.  I hate that.  DEFINITELY a poser.  However, to me, SQUID means Squirrely Kid, and many, many posers are kids who don't know any better and think one thing is cool when it isn't (full tuck at freeway speed).  So if you'd mentioned the tuck in your first post, you'd be all right in my book.

Got to disagree on the hump, however.  All the safety testing, physics theory, helmet magazine articles are coming to the same conclusion: a big cushy foam layer on top is a good idea for reducing deceleration.  There was a 49r offensive lineman in the nineties who got permission from the league to wear a foam 'mushroom' cap over his regulation helmet to protect a concusion.  The bike magazine test from a few years ago (Motorcyclist?) came to the same conclusion about helmet design: soft on the outside is better.

My spine is important to me, and while my Gericke / first gear / whatever jacket had more padding / foam in the back than older models, I still wouldn't mind having a hump full of foam on top of my cervical spine.  I actually think we're going to see a revolution in bike gear.  Much more 'Michelin Man' in appearance, and I think it could be done in a good way.  So more padding, higher performance in protection.  Higher performance is cool.  What's uncool is making lower performance fashionable (tiny tires on cars / skateboards, harleys, etc...)
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« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2007, 03:05:19 PM »

The full tuck at freeway speed is like the waaaaaaay reclined front seats in cars that you see the kids driving these days.  Just some douche bags trying to be cool whilst looking ridiculous.

I'll agree that the guy may have been a poser.  There just isn't enough information given to know.
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« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2007, 06:15:36 AM »

I saw a squid with a leather upgade this morning.

Instead of flipflops he had leather sandals, slacks, and a helmet for protection.

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« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2007, 08:08:24 AM »


Coming back from my triathlon yesterday I was driving around 695 in Md, saw a guy on what appeared to be a R1 without the bottom fairing.  So as I look closer I see he's wearing a full on moto-gp suit.  Complete with all the sliders and the mound on the back of the suit.  Thought it was pretty funny, if I had my camera I would have written a note that said, "smile squid" and taken a picture Bigsmile  I may have to go buy a cheapo digital camera just so I can start taking pictures of all the funny things I see on the highway.


Maybe he's a budget track day guy. If so, that might be the only way he can afford the gear; have one set that does track & street.

Dude, I'll take *any* squid of your definition over the gear-less, stuntin' bad ass wannabes who can't turn a bike in any corner to save their own lives that seem to be flourishing in my area. All day long. I twist these guys in the corners on my Burgman, only to have then fly by me on a wheelie at about 80, then plunk it back down to 20 to take the turns, rinse, repeat.
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« Reply #68 on: May 29, 2007, 07:56:23 AM »


Too big for the bike, but not too big for me! Bigok

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« Reply #69 on: May 29, 2007, 08:39:56 AM »

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o117/Hinterlan/Picture035.jpg   http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o117/Hinterlan/Picture037.jpg  Great, now I'm bald, old, grey and a Squid? At least I'm still ruggedly handsome Bigsmile
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