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« on: May 31, 2007, 09:57:29 AM »

Hey guys, this is my dilemma, so i hope you can get creative...

My GPS (Garmin Quest) takes 5V and the battery outputs 12V. I have a home-made regulator to convert the voltage... Now, if I wire it to the battery and leave it there, the regulator will use up battery on a constant basis (not a lot, but if i leave it there for the season it might be an issue)...

TO get around the battery draining problem, i think I will need to tap into a 12V line (headlight, ignition  maybe?) so the regulator only turns on when you turn the key on the bike... I would like to stay away from that idea and leave the wiring alone...

What are my other options ?

Having an aux 12V outlet would allow me to plug in the entire car speaker... and then my seat would be telling me "turn left"..."recalculating" ... lol...

I also thought about having the regulator powered by the battery, but having an ON/OFF switch so the regulator can be turned off when the bike is parked...

Maybe i'm over analizing this or someting...

ANY help would be appreciated !

THANKS A LOT !!!

I don't know much about fuses, etc... and i would like to stay away from the Garmin kit (since that costs money)...

What have some QUEST users done to hardwire their GPS ?
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2007, 10:23:56 AM »

I dunno, I ordered the motorcycle mounting kit from Garmin and wired it up to my Centech fuse box, which is fed by a relay switched source.  No muss, no fuss, works great.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2007, 10:30:34 AM »


I dunno, I ordered the motorcycle mounting kit from Garmin and wired it up to my Centech fuse box, which is fed by a relay switched source.  No muss, no fuss, works great.


I know... but that's the EASY way....  Lol Rolleyes Lol
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 10:51:18 AM »

I'm not familiar with the Quest, but doesn't its cradle provide the stepdown?

Barring that, how about wiring a relay into ignition-on position, so that turning the key to ON closes the relay and lights up the regulator?  Perhaps you can just tap into the horn relay, if your bike has one.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 11:00:13 AM »

I don't recall the motorcycle mounting kit doing any voltage conversions on my old Quest. I think the unit itself is doing conversions and can probably handle a full sweep of 5v - 14v input, converting it down to 5v for the internal battery.

Long story short, hook it up, turn it on, live life.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2007, 11:55:45 AM »

There are 6 contacts on the back of the Quest - does the 5v charger connect to the same pair as the 12v car/bike kit? If it does what are the third pair for - one for voice out, one for power in and what else?
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2007, 12:13:24 PM »

Well you have power and ground, doesn't audio also have a positive and negative?  Is the voice stereo or mono?  (I forget, it is connected to my Autocom so I hear it in either real or simulated stereo)
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2007, 12:16:15 PM »


Well you have power and ground, doesn't audio also have a positive and negative?  Is the voice stereo or mono?  (I forget, it is connected to my Autocom so I hear it in either real or simulated stereo)


The audio on the Quest is mono, using a groundless, 2-wire connection. You need an isolation transformer to wire it to a conventional amp.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2007, 12:19:23 PM »

Yep, if you want decent audio, although, while my Escort required isolation, the Quest DID NOT, in fact, I get louder audio (as in 100% louder) going direct to the Autocom than when I run it through isolation.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2007, 12:22:02 PM »

I used a 10A automobile relay with a wire hooked up to my tail light wire for my GPS hardwire, but the 5v transformer thing sounds strange...
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2007, 02:38:27 PM »


I have a home-made regulator to convert the voltage...

I don't know much about fuses, etc...


These two lines seem a bit troublesome.

How much is that kit from Garmin?
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2007, 04:47:16 AM »

 Lol You guys slay me...I have a 2610 with the hardwire setup...has a inline fuse...direct to the battery, the draw is so small it would take a week to drain a healthy battery. When I tour, I leave the 2610 on all day...that way I know how much time we dick around gas stops and get a true trip average speed.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2007, 05:33:29 AM »

Bingo, Rick.

Exactly the same thing for mine, and for the same reason.

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2007, 05:51:36 AM »

Not too sure about the quest but I have a cigarette socket under the seat wired to the battery with an inline fuse. The gps draws so little  power that I don't worry about it. I also leave it on all day to try and get a true average. I also charge my ipod and cell phone off the socket when needed. Neither of those draw much juice either.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2007, 06:13:45 AM »




These two lines seem a bit troublesome.

How much is that kit from Garmin?


LOL... the home-made regulator was made by someone else (that knows about fuses, etc.)  Crazy

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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2007, 08:33:26 AM »

I know that the Garmin mount also draws a constant current due to the in-built regulator (ask me how I know this... go on  Twofinger ) However we're talking a month of not using it for it to drain the battery so in normal usage and even down to "light" usage of once a fortnight or something you'll be fine. You should be riding more than that anyway!!

Otherwise just do as other people have said and tap into a switched power supply such as headlights or rear light, I couldn't be bothered faffing about with the wiring harness to track the wire down so I just remember to disconnect the mount whenever I think it might be a few weeks before I next ride.
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2007, 09:10:39 AM »


I know that the Garmin mount also draws a constant current due to the in-built regulator (ask me how I know this... go on  Twofinger ) However we're talking a month of not using it for it to drain the battery so in normal usage and even down to "light" usage of once a fortnight or something you'll be fine. You should be riding more than that anyway!!

Otherwise just do as other people have said and tap into a switched power supply such as headlights or rear light, I couldn't be bothered faffing about with the wiring harness to track the wire down so I just remember to disconnect the mount whenever I think it might be a few weeks before I next ride.


I wonder if this would work... Let's assume the regulator is situated close to the mount/GPS... if i install an ON/OFF switch to cut the power to the regulator, it shouldn't be draining any power in the OFF position... and when i want to use it, i simply turn the swithc ON to let power into the regulator....

What do you think ? Rolleyes
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2007, 09:20:38 AM »




I wonder if this would work... Let's assume the regulator is situated close to the mount/GPS... if i install an ON/OFF switch to cut the power to the regulator, it shouldn't be draining any power in the OFF position... and when i want to use it, i simply turn the swithc ON to let power into the regulator....

What do you think ? Rolleyes


That'll do it, just don't forget about the switch  Lol
Oh and make sure that the switch is water resistant if it's going to be exposed to the elements... Bad Things may happen otherwise  Crazy
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