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Hardwiring a GPS to your bike
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May 31, 2007, 09:57:29 AM »
Hey guys, this is my dilemma, so i hope you can get creative...
My GPS (Garmin Quest) takes 5V and the battery outputs 12V. I have a home-made regulator to convert the voltage... Now, if I wire it to the battery and leave it there, the regulator will use up battery on a constant basis (not a lot, but if i leave it there for the season it might be an issue)...
TO get around the battery draining problem, i think I will need to tap into a 12V line (headlight, ignition maybe?) so the regulator only turns on when you turn the key on the bike... I would like to stay away from that idea and leave the wiring alone...
What are my other options ?
Having an aux 12V outlet would allow me to plug in the entire car speaker... and then my seat would be telling me "turn left"..."recalculating" ... lol...
I also thought about having the regulator powered by the battery, but having an ON/OFF switch so the regulator can be turned off when the bike is parked...
Maybe i'm over analizing this or someting...
ANY help would be appreciated !
THANKS A LOT !!!
I don't know much about fuses, etc... and i would like to stay away from the Garmin kit (since that costs money)...
What have some QUEST users done to hardwire their GPS ?
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Re: Hardwiring a GPS to your bike
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May 31, 2007, 10:23:56 AM »
I dunno, I ordered the motorcycle mounting kit from Garmin and wired it up to my Centech fuse box, which is fed by a relay switched source. No muss, no fuss, works great.
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Quote from: marc11 on May 31, 2007, 10:23:56 AM
I dunno, I ordered the motorcycle mounting kit from Garmin and wired it up to my Centech fuse box, which is fed by a relay switched source. No muss, no fuss, works great.
I know... but that's the EASY way....
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May 31, 2007, 10:51:18 AM »
I'm not familiar with the Quest, but doesn't its cradle provide the stepdown?
Barring that, how about wiring a relay into ignition-on position, so that turning the key to ON closes the relay and lights up the regulator? Perhaps you can just tap into the horn relay, if your bike has one.
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May 31, 2007, 11:00:13 AM »
I don't recall the motorcycle mounting kit doing any voltage conversions on my old Quest. I think the unit itself is doing conversions and can probably handle a full sweep of 5v - 14v input, converting it down to 5v for the internal battery.
Long story short, hook it up, turn it on, live life.
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May 31, 2007, 11:55:45 AM »
There are 6 contacts on the back of the Quest - does the 5v charger connect to the same pair as the 12v car/bike kit? If it does what are the third pair for - one for voice out, one for power in and what else?
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Well you have power and ground, doesn't audio also have a positive and negative? Is the voice stereo or mono? (I forget, it is connected to my Autocom so I hear it in either real or simulated stereo)
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Quote from: marc11 on May 31, 2007, 12:13:24 PM
Well you have power and ground, doesn't audio also have a positive and negative? Is the voice stereo or mono? (I forget, it is connected to my Autocom so I hear it in either real or simulated stereo)
The audio on the Quest is mono, using a groundless, 2-wire connection. You need an isolation transformer to wire it to a conventional amp.
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May 31, 2007, 12:19:23 PM »
Yep, if you want decent audio, although, while my Escort required isolation, the Quest DID NOT, in fact, I get louder audio (as in 100% louder) going direct to the Autocom than when I run it through isolation.
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I used a 10A automobile relay with a wire hooked up to my tail light wire for my GPS hardwire, but the 5v transformer thing sounds strange...
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May 31, 2007, 02:38:27 PM »
Quote from: Raphy on May 31, 2007, 09:57:29 AM
I have a home-made regulator to convert the voltage...
I don't know much about fuses, etc...
These two lines seem a bit troublesome.
How much is that kit from Garmin?
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June 01, 2007, 04:47:16 AM »
You guys slay me...I have a 2610 with the hardwire setup...has a inline fuse...direct to the battery, the draw is so small it would take a week to drain a healthy battery. When I tour, I leave the 2610 on all day...that way I know how much time we dick around gas stops and get a true trip average speed.
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June 01, 2007, 05:33:29 AM »
Bingo, Rick.
Exactly the same thing for mine, and for the same reason.
'xecpt I have an old GPS V
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June 01, 2007, 05:51:36 AM »
Not too sure about the quest but I have a cigarette socket under the seat wired to the battery with an inline fuse. The gps draws so little power that I don't worry about it. I also leave it on all day to try and get a true average. I also charge my ipod and cell phone off the socket when needed. Neither of those draw much juice either.
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Quote from: vitaminC on May 31, 2007, 02:38:27 PM
These two lines seem a bit troublesome.
How much is that kit from Garmin?
LOL... the home-made regulator was made by someone else (that knows about fuses, etc.)
I'll figure something out
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Re: Hardwiring a GPS to your bike
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June 04, 2007, 08:33:26 AM »
I know that the Garmin mount also draws a constant current due to the in-built regulator (ask me how I know this... go on
) However we're talking a month of not using it for it to drain the battery so in normal usage and even down to "light" usage of once a fortnight or something you'll be fine. You should be riding more than that anyway!!
Otherwise just do as other people have said and tap into a switched power supply such as headlights or rear light, I couldn't be bothered faffing about with the wiring harness to track the wire down so I just remember to disconnect the mount whenever I think it might be a few weeks before I next ride.
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June 04, 2007, 09:10:39 AM »
Quote from: Ant on June 04, 2007, 08:33:26 AM
I know that the Garmin mount also draws a constant current due to the in-built regulator (ask me how I know this... go on
) However we're talking a month of not using it for it to drain the battery so in normal usage and even down to "light" usage of once a fortnight or something you'll be fine. You should be riding more than that anyway!!
Otherwise just do as other people have said and tap into a switched power supply such as headlights or rear light, I couldn't be bothered faffing about with the wiring harness to track the wire down so I just remember to disconnect the mount whenever I think it might be a few weeks before I next ride.
I wonder if this would work... Let's assume the regulator is situated close to the mount/GPS... if i install an ON/OFF switch to cut the power to the regulator, it shouldn't be draining any power in the OFF position... and when i want to use it, i simply turn the swithc ON to let power into the regulator....
What do you think ?
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Re: Hardwiring a GPS to your bike
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Quote from: Raphy on June 04, 2007, 09:10:39 AM
I wonder if this would work... Let's assume the regulator is situated close to the mount/GPS... if i install an ON/OFF switch to cut the power to the regulator, it shouldn't be draining any power in the OFF position... and when i want to use it, i simply turn the swithc ON to let power into the regulator....
What do you think ?
That'll do it, just don't forget about the switch
Oh and make sure that the switch is water resistant if it's going to be exposed to the elements... Bad Things may happen otherwise
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