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Question: I know most riders like curve surfing, but which to you prefer?
Hairpin posted 20 ride 40 - 108 (30.1%)
Sweeper posted 45 ride 90 - 251 (69.9%)
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« on: December 28, 2006, 10:11:42 PM »

Yeah, yeah, yeah...everyone wants both.  Just pick one.  Razz
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 10:17:10 PM »


Yeah, yeah, yeah...everyone wants both.  Just pick one.  Razz

I want to pick both...
How about sweeper posted 45, ride 90 while passing on a double yellow with some kind of red vehicle coming at you! Lol

Seriously, I like swepers the best.

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 10:37:07 PM »

How about being posted at 55/65 and running triple digits leaned over?  Talk about a rush!  Sections of 101 north of 'civilization' in a number of places come to mind Bigsmile
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2006, 11:29:31 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 11:39:12 PM »

Jeez a hairpin once in a while is fun, but you could do sweepers all day and have a blast.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2006, 11:57:31 PM »

Definitely hairpins.

I guess I get most of my thrills from throwing the bike back and forth, not keeping it steady leaned over in a sweeper.

The tighter the curve, the better. Hills, whoops, dropping into a switchback. Yum.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2006, 11:58:06 PM »

I like sweepers - unless if they have some sort of meat grinder guard rail or other nasty outer area - if that then I'll take the hairpins.

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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2006, 12:05:21 AM »

Sweepers, only because I don't ride well enough to have real fun in the hairpins.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2006, 12:18:29 AM »

I like tight turns, and I know I am in the minority without a poll.
 
I don't like being leaned over for a long period of time, and I don't like going through a turn where if I lose traction I won't likely be able to save it and stay in my lane.  If you lose it at 90 MPH leaned over, by the time you get control of the bike you can be over the center line or headed for the ditch.

Tight turns are more challenging and require much more concentration.  I really like being able to change direction very quickly and the skill and focus required to do that.  Gear selection, lines, and rapid shifting of body weight.

The downside is that tight turns usually have more gravel, the pavement is usually of poorer quality, and the sight lines aren't as good.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2006, 12:48:50 AM »

Hi-speed sweepers only get interesting at ummm.... warp speed, which raises the risks to a degree that I try to avoid on the street.

So I'll vote for the tight stuff.  Bigsmile
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2006, 03:04:56 AM »

I voted hairpin but only because it's my belief that you can have the most short-term fun on a small lightweight bike such as a Ninja 250.  Because I have an '04 VFR however, true back to back hairpins are just too much like work.
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2006, 06:36:23 AM »

I consider hairpins to be below the 20 mph range. Usually they run 10-15 recomended, and as such, are not all that much fun.

If you ask me what I really like, then I would say the tighter twisties (for the record I hate the term twisties, sounds like something a kindergardner would say) Quick side to side movements, some elev change mid-corner, maybe even some humps btw corners, these things make me smile.

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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2006, 07:18:37 AM »

I'm with Guy. Hairpins around here are usually posted at 15 MPH and not much fun due to being dirty from cars and trucks kicking up crap on the shoulder. On the other hand, I don't like to ride at high speeds, so running 90+ MPH on open sweepers isn't for me either. That's license threatening speeding there. 30 over in PA and you're screwed. So I either avoid roads that you have to go fast on to make technically interesting, or I just chill out and enjoy the scenery at 10 over and wait for the good stuff.

My favorite riding is a road with a 55 MPH speed limit that is polluted with curves posted at (a suggested) 25 MPH to 35. And then riding them at double the suggested speed. I rarely exceed 80 MPH (indicated), except when passing. I simply don't like to go fast. But I'm very happy to toodle along 10-15 over a 55 MPH limit on a very twisty road. Route 250 from Moundsville to Hundred comes to mind as the perfect example.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2006, 08:00:07 AM »

I suppose the speed-limit rules (+/- conservative) change from state to state.  I figure 15-20 mph posted are probably going to be hairpins or very tight corners on the wide side.  25-35 are tight twisties and really anything 45 or more is a hairpin...usually.  I don't believe there is any set guidlines as to what curves are posted.  I saw a 45 curve in PA that I didn't think needed posted at all and I've also seen 45 curves that were tighter than some 35s I've seen.

I'm with Rocketbunny as far as the curves go, I like 'em tight - but as rincewind suggested, the elevation changes are super, too.  I like 'em all, but the tighter ones are more challenging.  Thumbsup
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2006, 01:39:57 PM »


Sweepers, only because I don't ride well enough to have real fun in the hairpins.


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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2006, 01:45:50 PM »

Hairpins and sweepers is pretty much all we have around here. I need to upgrade my suspension after moving here. The sweepers I can handle but the bike wallows a bit with heavy me on it under braking and abrupt direction changes. But I manage and leave the heroics to others.
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2006, 02:05:59 PM »

Neither.  I live my live 1/4 of a mile at a time.   Lol

I live California roads which are 55-60mph speed limits with 25-35mph posted corners.
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2006, 04:00:59 PM »

Interesting ... I would've though hairpins would be more popular.  I like hairpins if I can see through the curve, but often it's a blind curve which means I can't take it as fast as I'd like to. (Seen too many head-on collisions ... just two, which is two too many.)  

Sweepers, on the other hand, usually provide much better line of sight, which allows much faster and more invigorating throttle action  Burnout
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2006, 04:05:54 PM »

I like the hairpins  Thumbsup

then again sweepers at triple digits can be fun to  Bigsmile

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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2006, 06:24:40 PM »

I would also vote neither if there were such a choice.  There are dozens of roads in N. Cal.with miles of turns that are a challenge at below the posted 55. Super fun with no LEO problems as long as you don't hammer it on the straights.
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