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« on: January 04, 2007, 11:02:37 AM »

I have about 15,000 miles over the last 2.5 years on a KZ250, ZR7, F650 and my current DL1000. I'd like to get a sportbike to help improve my riding skills, but I'd like to keep the budget down. I'm not concerned about having the latest or fastest - especially since I'm at 6,000 feet and everything feels sluggish up here. Mid to late 90s sportbikes seem to hit the sweet spot for prices - but the stock suspension is certainly toast by now. Is there anything wrong with mid to late 90s sportbikes that $1500 thrown at the suspension can't fix? Is $1500 enough to rebuild/replace the suspension on bikes of this vintage?

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 11:16:38 AM »

Can't go wrong with a '96 and up GSX-R 750.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 11:27:31 AM »

You can spend a lot less than $1500 but that is a healthy budget for a new aftermarket shock and custom fork revalve. Expect to pay about $900 to $1000 for the shock and $400-$500 for the fork revalve. I bought a 96 Yamaha 600 supersport three years ago. Fork rebuild with all new bushings, seals and fluid was about $250 at a shop and I found a Penske shock on eBay for $200.

Anything sportbike less than 10 years old will work really well, and if you take your time looking around, there are some amazingy good street bikes for $3,500-5000.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 01:21:29 PM »

There are a lot of early 90's sportbikes that would do well and don't cost a lot of money. The Yamaha FZR-600 is popular, as are the CBR600F2 and F3 bikes. A lot of people like the GSXR bikes, but they usually run a few dollars more than the other manufacturers. The key to any of them, though, is to find one that had been taken care of. There are a LOT of trashed bikes out there with little to no care taken toward maintaning them.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 01:29:19 PM »

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Anything sportbike less than 10 years old will work really well, and if you take your time looking around, there are some amazingy good street bikes for $3,500-5000.


+1 to what DB says above (all of it, not just what's quoted).  $1500 will get all the parts AND a good installation.  Not sure what you're budget is but $4000 - $5000 should get you up to 2002 or even 2003.  2002 - 2003 supersport should not need any suspension upgrades until 30k miles or so.  Definitely nice to have but, IMO, not mandatory so long as you weigh under 200 pounds or so.  Even then, just springs may be enough to 30k miles.

Definitely test ride.  Not sure exactly what you're looking for but the ergos on, say, an R6 and an F4 or F4i are IMO very different.  I'd think the F4 could be ridden all day comfortably (and a few STN members have proven this) but for myself, I spent 10 miles on an R6 and needed to get off and stretch.  I could only see owning one for track days.

For 6000 feet, a jet kit on a carb'd bike would help.  Probably wasn't done (or worse, was done badly).
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 02:45:04 PM »

A late model SV650S can be had for a very good price.  In its factory configuration it is a very capable, very user friendly bike that appeals to beginners and experts alike.  Should you ever need to upgrade the bike parts are plentiful.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2007, 09:16:13 PM »

What about a TL1000R?  You know the engine kicks ass and if you throw$1,500 at the suspension you will have one sweet handling bike.  Of course, I may be biased:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/rthomas34/TL1000R/tillerloopii.jpg
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2007, 09:23:14 AM »

If the owner has maintained the fork, i.e. changed the oil and seals regularly, it may be fine.  If you're looking for something big and comfortable but still sporty the big Kawasakis like mine and the ZX-11 are a good fine.

My bike has a relatively good front end and I can only assume a completely shot rear shock.  I'm not a good enough rider to notice or care though. Sad
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2007, 10:07:18 AM »

Please don't take this as a criticism, but considering your experience and history, it is unlikely you will need to modify the suspension on a modern sportbike unless your over 200lbs.  Most late '90s-on 600 class supersports have pretty decent suspension right out of the box.  Initially, I doubt you will be pushing the bike enough to justify a $1500 suspension investment.  In my opinion, that money would better be spent on real leathers, gloves, and boots (assuming you don't have high-end stuff already.)
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2007, 10:59:22 AM »

Watch this it will stun the crap out of you. They test 3 old bikes against a new 06 gixxer 1000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSyPkiTgifU&mode=related&search
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2007, 12:04:37 PM »


I have about 15,000 miles over the last 2.5 years on a KZ250, ZR7, F650 and my current DL1000. I'd like to get a sportbike to help improve my riding skills, but I'd like to keep the budget down. I'm not concerned about having the latest or fastest - especially since I'm at 6,000 feet and everything feels sluggish up here. Mid to late 90s sportbikes seem to hit the sweet spot for prices - but the stock suspension is certainly toast by now. Is there anything wrong with mid to late 90s sportbikes that $1500 thrown at the suspension can't fix? Is $1500 enough to rebuild/replace the suspension on bikes of this vintage?

Thanks!




I keep thinking CBR900RR when I read this post.

1993--funky colors, but the original bad boy.  Supposed to be a twitchy handler.  Rare now.
1998/99--Nicest street bike of the "old school" look with the little holes in the fairing.  Supposed to be "softened" for street riding.  Right.  Will still rip your t*ts off.
2000--Up to 929cc's, fuel injected.  The red and white one is the nicest looking of all the paint jobs from 2000 to present.

The challenge is finding one that's a garage queen.  Most of these bikes were thrashed.  Thing is, they're pretty comfortable, way more so than an R1.  They aren't just great sport bikes, they're great road bikes.



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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2007, 12:25:56 PM »

But why restrict yourself to the 16" front wheel on the CBR900RR's. I love those bikes but when there are so many choices with standard wheel sizes, why bother. Also, finding CBR's (or almost any sport bike of that era) that hasn't been used up the stunt community is difficult. CBR900RR's are expecially difficult because they have that big tank that the stunters love to beat down for those "legs over the bars" wheelies.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 12:32:56 PM »


Watch this it will stun the crap out of you. They test 3 old bikes against a new 06 gixxer 1000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSyPkiTgifU


Fun video.  It should be noted that on faster, more open track the GSXR1000 would have had a much larger gap. Cadwell Park is a pretty tight circuit with a big jump coming out of a slow chicane. The monster power of the GSXR1000 is likely a disadvantage there since there are few place it can be used. Even though a couple of seconds is an eternity in track times, I still the think the old bikes did well. Especially since they were all pretty worn out. Paraphrasing one of the testers in the video: "Its all tires and suspension."

I'd love to find a clean ZX-7R or YZF750R if I ever replace my YZF but it would take a lot of looking.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 12:53:24 PM »

I'd love to find a clean ZX-7R or YZF750R if I ever replace my YZF but it would take a lot of looking.
I personally find the ZX-7R to be one of the best looking sportbikes ever made, particularly the year they were solid metallic red.
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