F1 Is Back!

[bajajoaquin]

Woo Hoo!

(yes, I know, it's cars, but it's racing and I'm really stoked.)

[shah269]

My wife and I just washed our F1 shirts and are about to go shopping for munchies for sunday!
I'm sorry I tried NASCAR but....well......how shall I say.....I ended up screaming at the TV!

[Mr Sunshine]

Can a mod please move this to off-topic.  

[miles]

Woo Hoo!

(yes, I know, it's cars, but it's almost racing and I'm really stoked.)

Fixed that for you.

[Jeff N]

Filthy rich Eurotrash driving overpowered go karts in a processional manner is racing?

[R Doug]

Be careful Baja, 4-wheeled racing isn't generally allowed in Pit Row.  It's 2 wheels only.

Your F1 passion is welcome down in the Dungeon w/ the rest of us Eurotrash loving fools.  

http://www.sport-touring.net/forums/index.php/topic,11173.0.html

[greench440]

The finally ditched traction control so it should be a little more of a contest this year.  Maybe there will be a lead change after the first corner.  

[miles]

The finally ditched traction control so it should be a little more of a contest this year.  Maybe this year there will be a lead change after the first corner for once.  

Clarified that for you.

[shah269]

Hay wasn't El Doctor thinking of going to F1?

[Jeff N]

F1 once held my interest. The cars were wild and their drivers wilder. Jody Scheckter, Gilles Villanueve, Robbie Peterson, Vittorio Brambilla, et al, were wild practitioners of right foot flat and countersteer like a mofo. When one watched one of these race by one knew something special was happening. Nowadays? Eh, who downloaded the latest software?

[shah269]

Blame TC ABS SCand ground effects.
The odd part is that almost all of that has come down to us.
My wifes little bug has both TC and a mild version of SC. Apparently 180hp and being haped like half an egg aren't the best thing for high speed corners. Oh did I mention she has an automaic wing that pops up to keep the thing going straight?
But yes I agree. It has gotten very dull when compared to what it use to be. But things are slowly moving back. This year all that fun electronics are out. The only thing missing for some real fun is a bit of ground effect and maybe some better race tracks! Maybe more tracks like Montreal and less like say Turkey?
Hay does Moto GP race in Montreal? Or is it just too dangerous?

[tomek]

F1 once held my interest. The cars were wild and their drivers wilder. Jody Scheckter, Gilles Villanueve, Robbie Peterson, Vittorio Brambilla, et al, were wild practitioners of right foot flat and countersteer like a mofo. When one watched one of these race by one knew something special was happening. Nowadays? Eh, who downloaded the latest software?

They are running spec ECUs this year,so,in theory,will be no traction control,and tire managment will be back again in drivers hands.

I might start watching F1 again,who knows.

[Jeff N]

OK, I'll watch the opening round and see if I can be brought back in, but I wanna see action like this-

[DogBoy]

 













































 

[Aaron]

I wouldn't cross the street to watch an F1 race. It's just awful. I'll admit, the cars are amazing. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily make for good racing.

[R Doug]

The cars were sliding all over the place during practice.  It was much fun to watch.  Lewis Hamilton had a few nice power slides.  That's impressive in an open-wheeled car.  

Next year will be even better as they remove more than 1/3rd of the current downforce package which will allow for closing racing as "dirty" air won't have as much as an affect when the cars are closer to one another.

Qualifying is on now (live).  Q3 will be much more exciting this year because it's been cut down to 10 min from 15 and there will no longer be the stupid "fuel burn" period.  

It is improving.  

[Mr Sunshine]

Oh did I mention she has an automaic wing that pops up to keep the thing going straight?

That wing was added after feedback from German drivers that the rear end of the bug got a little squirrely at over 120mph on the Autostrabe.  

[Orson]

OK, I'll watch the opening round and see if I can be brought back in, but I wanna see action like this-

Didja see Villeneuve's rear end step out at the 4:46 mark?  

 

Now back to 2008  

 

[Jeff N]

Free stickers!

http://www.shell.com/home/ferrari-en/html/iwgen/motorsport/app_stickers.html

[traveler]

What? No results posted yet?

I didn't watch the race (no Speedtv for me) but did read the recap on crash.net. Sounds like a hell of a season opener, with plenty of action and heartbreak to go around. Those of you able to watch it should be well entertained.

[greench440]

There was more action in that one race than in all of last season.  Lack of traction control definitely created more exciting conditions.  Monaco should be real interesting.

Now if they could get to the finish with more than 7 cars running......


Edit - The race is going to replayed on Speed at 10:30 am Pacific time.

[Jeff N]

There was more action in that one race than in all of last season.  Lack of traction control definitely created more exciting conditions.  Monaco should be real interesting.

Now if they could get to the finish with more than 7 cars running......


Edit - The race is going to replayed on Speed at 10:30 am Pacific time.

Halfway to a spoiler, but that's OK.   It's starting right now.

[greench440]

I thought it was an appeteaser.    Great race though.

[shah269]

HOLY CRAP WHAT AN AMAZING RACE! Kimi ran around like a mad man, made a huge run then lost his mind. And what's up with DC? And that poor guy Glock in the Toyota! Holy mother of god! The guy is lucky he can walk!

[Bug R]

And that poor guy Glock in the Toyota! Holy mother of god! The guy is lucky he can walk!

Talk about taking it in the ass :LOL:

[shah269]

Talk about taking it in the ass :LOL:

Did you see
My god did you see how far his car was thrown in the air! The guy is lucky he can still walk! Those cars don't exactly have much suspension travel and aren't really designed for that kine of vertical motion.
What got me was DC? I think he's starting to loose it. And Kimi....odds are he was most probably hung over.
But seeing the cars just throw their back end out like that......should make for some interesting racing. Though I'm afraid more crashes. For as I understand it due to the design of these engines they behave more like two strokes than say 4 strokes. And if you "get on the pipe" at the wrong place at the wrong time.......

[smileyman]

I like the absence of TC!  This might actually make for some interesting and entertaining racing!

[Smooth Operator]

I guess TC had to throw away one of the pair of 40 tidy whitties he bought.  

My back hurt for Glock.

Ferrari starts the season behind the 8 ball.

BMW is right up there. Pretty good start to the season.

[cooter]

 

Looks likely to be a good season for viewers.

Next week Malaysia, correct?

[R Doug]

 

Looks likely to be a good season for viewers.

Next week Malaysia, correct?

That's the place.  

[shah269]

Do you know how hard it's going to drive one of those cars when it rains!
Or in Bahrain with all that sand!
One of the comentators were stating that the drivers have to relearn how to drive because the new engines behave almost like two strokes.

[cooter]

Do you know how hard it's going to drive one of those cars when it rains!
Or in Bahrain with all that sand!
One of the comentators were stating that the drivers have to relearn how to drive because the new engines behave almost like two strokes.

I think that is where the commentators are slightly misspoken. If I understand right, the cars are more like switching from 2 stroke to 4 stroke. Before they had lots of sweet leccy stuff to manage back torque on down shifts. Now they have only the clutches to work wit and are seeing lots of lock-up and wheel chatter on down shifts. I think this will actually favor the younger drivers who haven't become comfortable with all the electronics yet.

 

 

[bogthing]

You mean they've dropped the ridiculous MotoGP name and returned to Formula One?

Yaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy!!

[shah269]

I think that is where the commentators are slightly misspoken. If I understand right, the cars are more like switching from 2 stroke to 4 stroke. Before they had lots of sweet leccy stuff to manage back torque on down shifts. Now they have only the clutches to work wit and are seeing lots of lock-up and wheel chatter on down shifts. I think this will actually favor the younger drivers who haven't become comfortable with all the electronics yet.

 

 

Nah mate, I'm thing it was the other way around. Before the ECU would controll the cars wheel spin thus giving the car a nice even apparent power band. But now they are having to deal with an unchained crack head V8 and it's power spike!
Thus they can no longer power threw corners they have to puts threw "off the pipe".
Now my question is this, if this continues..........how are the teams going to afford all the replacement parts?

[cooter]

Nah mate, I'm thing it was the other way around. Before the ECU would controll the cars wheel spin thus giving the car a nice even apparent power band. But now they are having to deal with an unchained crack head V8 and it's power spike!
Thus they can no longer power threw corners they have to puts threw "off the pipe".
Now my question is this, if this continues..........how are the teams going to afford all the replacement parts?

Sorry, thought you were talking about corner entry on the brakes. The drivers are talking of having much more trouble adjusting to this part than putting the power down coming out of the turns.Before this year they tapped away on the paddles and the car did all the work. Now they are having to relearn how to stop the cars all over again as well as turning and accelerating.

   

[R Doug]

Hey guys, there is an "official" F1 thread down in the dungeon.  


























I'm just say'n.    

[shah269]

Hey guys, there is an "official" F1 thread down in the dungeon.  

How dare you bring up such a painful subject as the dungeon!
I haven't seen T nor A nor talking cats in god knows how long!

[cooter]

How dare you bring up such a painful subject as the dungeon!
I haven't seen T nor A nor talking cats in god knows how long!

What's a dungeon?

 

[shah269]

So this past sundays race....not bad hu? Not really exciting but not bad.
I think a lot has to do with the race track. Very long twists and turns and not much space for over taking.
Now if  you ask me.....and this is just me talking here. These race tracks suck! They need to be redesigned to allow more passing. It seems that the race tracks are set up for the best advertisement placement not the best racing line.

[cooter]

 

Pretty dang good race, actually. Well everywhere but up front.

Of all the people I didn't expect to have this much trouble, Massa had better get the lead out.

[shah269]

Yeah that's the thing, the guy in front almost bet good money he'll be in the lead.
It's the back markers that are getting beaten up!

[cooter]

 

I think they should invert the field at halftime.

Just imagine...  

[Stray Cat]

 

Pretty dang good race, actually. Well everywhere but up front.

Of all the people I didn't expect to have this much trouble, Massa had better get the lead out.

I love Massa, but for crying out loud! He has as good a chance as anyone to win the championship if he would just keep his head in the game. That spin was just crazy.
I bet Schummi had some choice German words for him....