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« on: May 24, 2009, 01:42:47 AM »

I am in the market for a new or slightly used Triumph and I am just wondering how these bike stack up to the Japanese bikes as far as reliability goes.  I am looking at getting a Bonneville specifically and my biggest concern is the air cooled engine.  I'm afraid that commuting around town in the summer heat will take a toll on the engine and I don't want to spend money on a bike if I can't get an easy 75,000 miles out of it...at least.   I am confident most Japanese bike could last the long but none of them look as cool as the Bonnie.  They just ooze style.   Cool
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2009, 09:23:49 AM »

My experience with Triumph triples is that reliability is very good. I put 43K on a Sprint over 3 years and it was stone axe reliable. I was a RAT Pack leader for several years and don't recall any issues with the twins, but there are some good Triumph forums out there with lots more model-specific info.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2009, 10:11:26 AM »

Greetings,

You best bet would be to log in into or join triumphrat.net and access the "twins" section.

Currently I have a 2001 Sprint ST (triple) and have had no mechanical or reliability issues.

Prior to getting the Sprint in 2007 I had an '03 Kawi ZR-7S (air cooled) and it would get hot in bumper to bumper commuter traffic but I never had any mechanical issues because of it.  I also used it to run lots of errands around town in the summer and never had a problem.

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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2009, 04:39:13 PM »

So far, both my Trophy and the Speed have been
every bit as reliable as the bikes from the Big Four I've owned.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2009, 06:37:53 PM »

I've owned both a Bonnie and Sprint with 0 problems over 30K+ miles. The Sprint felt hotter at a traffic light as do all litre fully fared bikes ( BMW K's, ST's FJR's et al). I currently have a BMW R12 and I am in general a "twin" fan. It's a great bike too, but all vehicles stuck long enough in traffic will be subject to over heating as they require air movement to assist in cooling. Triumph has won engine endurance tear downs after 50K and I would guess all their and other OEM offerings will do a fine job for you. Modern engines run hot to meet emission standards, but they also benefit from better design and far superior lubricants. All that being said, take a test ride and get the bike that fits you best and makes you smile, any of them will be fine all else considered.

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2009, 10:13:04 AM »

I have owned a 1997 trophy 1200 and a 2003 (current ) speed triple,both are stone axe reliable
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2009, 01:32:20 PM »

2001 Sprint ST.  Rock solid.  The only things that've broken are things that I broke.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2009, 10:49:49 PM »



I am looking at getting a Bonneville specifically and my biggest concern is the air cooled engine.  
 



Um, it's not like air cooled motorcycle engines are a new technology.  Headscratch


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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2009, 02:22:15 AM »

You're getting a fairly consistent message here dsmith.  Good enough for you?

Allow me though to mention a problem I had on one of Triumph's earlier machines, a Daytona 900: The camchain broke. Of course, it was absolutely nothing to do with the fact that when I checked the camchain adjuster when the bike was semi-stripped for a valve adjustment, I didn't think the chain looked tight enough so I decided to give the spring a bit of finger assistance...
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 03:06:29 AM »


...I didn't think the chain looked tight enough so I decided to give the spring a bit of finger assistance...


In a similar vein, when I did my 24K service, I didn't lube my rear wheel bearing, since I figured it would be OK for another 2,000 miles or so when I'd be putting on new tires.  Figured I'd kill two birds with one stone.

The needle bearing (the only one you can lube) failed, taking the ball bearing, axle, ABS sensor, ABS pulser ring... something like $700 worth of damage.  Which the dealer did cover under warranty.

I was left stranded in Chicago, had to take a train home, get my truck and drive back to get the bike.

I don't blame Triumph for this- I should have lubed the needle bearing on schedule.

Aside from this one issue, the Sprint has been reliable as hell over 38,000 miles.

Stripes has a habit of breaking shift linkages on his 2005 1050.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 08:56:18 AM »

Except for the things that break due to my tinkering, the Trophy has been pretty reliable. Though Trophy's do suffer from a known fuel starvation issue and the clock is worthless. The fuel issue is not an expensive fix, just frustrating dealing with it. And as for the clock, most owners don't bother.

I don't know anything about the Bonnevilles though.  Shrug
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2009, 11:58:29 AM »

I am on my forth Trumpet.  Not a lick of problems from any of them.  

Well except for the fact that the missus really likes the Speedmaster and I may have issues trading it in for a Speed Triple like I planned.  

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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 12:45:10 PM »

I'm on my second Triumph.  Both treated me pretty well.  I had some oil usage problems with my first Triumph (bad seal on the blow-thru into the airbox caused extra oil to be sent there - happened twice).  On my second Triumph the airbox seems to be staying free of oil, but oil is being consumed by the engine now instead.  Reliability has otherwise been very good.  

From TheRedOnes post, I will be checking my rear wheel bearing on my next tire change!

I'm sure the Bonnies have their own pet issues - I know for instance they had some trouble with spokes, but you'd really have to look at Bonnie forums for the most dirt on them.

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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 12:57:05 PM »

Friend of mine bought an 08 Bonnie Black last June and uses it for commuting almost daily when above 40 degrees.  His commute is about 2 miles from Hoboken NJ to Jersey City NJ and takes him 20 minutes, so he's sitting at a light more than he's moving.  No overheating or other issues.  Has about 5k on it (takes a while to rack up miles with a 4 mile round trip commute).  
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2009, 03:39:36 PM »

there's an 05 Bonnie in our motorpool with 15K miles or so -- that newfanlged aircooled mill is doing just fine, including in some preety hot conditions
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From TheRedOnes post, I will be checking my rear wheel bearing on my next tire change!





I wouldn't bother with it unless it's part of your scheduled service.  Getting to it requires removal of the stake nut on the left side of the axle, and that nut is supposed to be replaced after removal.  And it's a $25 part.
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2009, 05:37:16 PM »

Just to add spice to the discussion - I replaced the motor in my 03 Sprint this weekend as it has no compression in the #1 cylinder after only 44K miles.

It has had a lot of issues and must be the exception that proves the rule.
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2009, 06:17:05 AM »


I am in the market for a new or slightly used Triumph and I am just wondering how these bike stack up to the Japanese bikes as far as reliability goes.  I am looking at getting a Bonneville specifically and my biggest concern is the air cooled engine.

I have almost 10,000 miles on my Thruxton and it hasn't missed a beat.

more than oozing style, the parallel twin sound with the Triumph aftermarket peashooters is highly addictive  Drool

one of the best sounding motors around.  Inlove
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2009, 05:16:49 PM »


more than oozing style...........

My Bonneville is oozing oil.  Seriously.  Just like the Meriden bikes.  18k miles, in the shop now, the countershaft seal and the gasket on the cover behind the sprocket - both shot.  At 10K miles it was cam cover gasket.  

Just like the Meriden bikes....  Crazy

Aside from keeping the oil on the inside of the engine, it's a reliable bike.  Been in some pretty challenging spots - 45 minute traffic jam on a blazing hot day - never overheated.  

My wife's Trophy had some initial problems.  Head gasket leak, vacuum lines, minor fueling issues... I thought might be from sitting around at a dealership for 2 years: 2003 model bought new in July 2005.  Once the initial problems were worked through, it's settled down to be a rock solid machine.
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I have almost 10,000 miles on my Thruxton and it hasn't missed a beat.

more than oozing style, the parallel twin sound with the Triumph aftermarket peashooters is highly addictive  Drool

one of the best sounding motors around.  Inlove



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