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« on: September 20, 2009, 07:38:06 AM »

Well looks like the Goldwing has some competition now   Headscratch

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 08:09:26 AM »

How the fuck does that cost more than most new cars?
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 08:13:10 AM »

I think this is more competition for trikes, not 2-wheelers
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 08:45:47 AM »


I think this is more competition for trikes, not 2-wheelers

And the Smart Car Cabriolet:

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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 09:41:07 AM »

I saw one on the road out in Arizona last week.  Coming up from the rear, I realized it was the new model from a picture posted here a bit ago.  It didn't look *that* bad.  Hell, I'd ride it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2009, 09:46:49 AM »


How the fuck does that cost more than most new cars?
thats what i was wondering.

i think i saw one of those on GI joe.the new movie not the old tv show
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 10:00:34 AM »

929 lbs for the base model with only 100hp?

I'm not a hp junkie (I moved from a ZX-12R to the Sprint) but I think this thing needs a lot more hp.

Having said that, I'd ride one.  Bigok   But I wouldn't buy one.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 10:01:43 AM »


How the fuck does that cost more than most new cars?


You can ask that about most Goldwings and 1/2 of the HDs out there....
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2009, 10:26:02 AM »


929 lbs for the base model with only 100hp?

I'm not a hp junkie (I moved from a ZX-12R to the Sprint) but I think this thing needs a lot more hp.

Having said that, I'd ride one.  Bigok   But I wouldn't buy one.


agreed, 100 HP for 1/2 a ton is not very good
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2009, 10:33:22 AM »




agreed, 100 HP for 1/2 a ton is not very good


Whats the HP of a GoldWing?

I like the look of this thing better than a Wing.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2009, 11:22:32 AM »

Those things just don't do it for me.  Trikes in general seem like they combine the impracticalities of a motorcycle without many of the benefits.  In my opinion, there are so many other things that would provide a better riding or driving experience for the money.

There's a couple in my area that bought matching his and hers can am spyders.  It was kind of comical watching them try to communicate at an intersection since they couldn't share the lane and apparently didn't have a comm system. The lead rider would have to twist all the way around to communicate with her husband, causing her to miss the light change.  Didn't look like they were having fun.  Oh well.

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2009, 11:31:26 AM »




Whats the HP of a GoldWing?

I like the look of this thing better than a Wing.


About 120 HP and 125 Lbs of torque and weighs 100 Lbs less...
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2009, 09:03:29 PM »




You can ask that about most Goldwings and 1/2 of the HDs out there....


thats why you buy one off craigs list lol.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2009, 10:40:11 PM »

I hadn't seen the new one yet.

I stopped into a Can-Am dealer a couple of days ago--I happened to be in the city on business, and saw the Spyder parked out near the road.  When I was looking over the demo unit, I noticed a small nail in the rear tire, and thought it'd be a good deed to let someone know about it.

I entered the large showroom.  There was a desk near the door, with a "young lady" sitting there.  When I told her I'd noticed a nail in the tire of the Spyder sitting on the edge of the parking lot, she looked at me like I was speaking Greek or something.  I told her again that there was a nail in the tire of their demo Spyder--I pointed it out (the only one on the lot)--and she picked up her phone and called for someone to come to the front.  

I went to look at a display of Spyders, just for fun (I was relieved to note that some 2009 Spyders still have a clutch and gearshift), but after several minutes no-one had come out, so I left.  I hope my comment about the nail got passed on.  Note--there were other employees in the showroom, but no-one seemed to give a sh*t.  Oh, well.  I will comment that I'd feel naked riding a Spyder, with no levers at all, and only one foot control (the brakes--there is only the footpedal, and on the auto ones, no shift lever at all).  And it doesn't lean.  Like Brent, I fail to see the attraction of a trike...
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2009, 11:04:37 PM »

Not competition for any bike.  Maybe the handicap carts at walmart.
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2009, 05:32:18 AM »




Whats the HP of a GoldWing?

I like the look of this thing better than a Wing.


108 Wink (or something close) 118hp and 898lbs wet

I think this competes with Gold Wing trikes.
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2009, 05:41:18 AM »


Those things just don't do it for me.  Trikes in general seem like they combine the impracticalities of a motorcycle without many of the benefits.  In my opinion, there are so many other things that would provide a better riding or driving experience for the money.


I haven't ridden the big Spyder, but the little one is very fun.  It's work to ride it at its limits while holding smooth lines, though.

It's not like a bike or a car, really.  It's got a low center of gravity (unlike a Gold Wing trike or perhaps the new Spyder, actually).  You can get it moving pretty well - maybe faster than bikes in corners if ridden well (I don't know for sure) - but you would be working really hard to make it hold a good line.

2 tiny traction patches + 500lbs,
4 large traction patches + 2200lbs (for a small roadster), or
3 large traction patches + 700lbs

The problem I have with the R/T is how tall it is... It's so tall that I think you'd lose some of the cornering fun that can be had on the little Spyder.
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2009, 05:50:48 AM »

I was following one owned by an employee of the company.   It had a certain appeal, but not for me.   That's my interceptor and I own a similar Miata as well.  I think its placed in the market just as it is in the picture.  For somebody that wants open air but not another car and not quite wanting a bike.

The front end reminds me of a Formula Ford racer car.  I like it, but no....maybe when, as they say, I can't get a leg over a bike.
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2009, 06:53:12 AM »

I have ridden one.  It is most defintely not for me.  Just a really weird experience.  There is no way that you can corner one of these as fast as a sportbike.  The stability and traction control takes over and cuts the throttle and I think it may also apply the brakes to slow you down if you are cornering too hard.  It was also a bitch to muscle through turns.  I don't think there is any way to turn off the computer aided controls either.  Power was OK.  The engine is actually pretty nice.  Good torque.  Just a lot of weight to move.  

As others have said, the appeal of this thing (as with most trikes) is totally lost on me.  I would just buy a Honda S2000 or Miata before buying one of these.  It doesn't really have the same appeal as a bike at all.  Completely different riding experience.  The Spyder reminded me of riding an ATV on the street.  Couldn't corner very fast, it was hard to steer and felt really awkward in corners.  
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2009, 07:26:51 AM »

I don't personally want a Can-Am or a trike, but if it floats someone else's boat then I'm glad those options are out there...  I wonder if the reason that people go with those options is because they have balance issues, which, again is fine and those solutions allow them to ride with their friends.

And if I'm would go with three wheels, then this is the way I'd go:



But the Piaggio MP3 can be dumped, as it does lean (therefore requiring balance).
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