New Triumph Trophy.....

[pushr0d]

MCN Editor Marc Potter posted on today's news:

Just when you thought we couldn't uncover any more new bikes this year, we go and find the brand new Triumph Trophy - a bike that's not only massively important for the Hinckley firm but also a historical landmark.

It's 20 years since the reborn factory's original Trophy rolled off the production line and even though the four-cylinder 1200 wasn't exactly cutting edge, it was solid, durable and performed better than it had any right to.

From what we can see of the new Trophy, it's designed to once again go head-to-head with the Germans, closely aping the looks of BMW's R1200RT.

With shaft drive, a wide protective fairing and that glorious three-cylinder engine, it should be very, very close.

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[sammyseaman]

 

[crispiegee1]

It's 20 years since the reborn factory's original Trophy rolled off the production line and even though the four-cylinder 1200 wasn't exactly cutting edge, it was solid, durable and performed better than it had any right to.

I never understand why magazine writers like to say things like "performed better than it had any right to." What does that mean? It sounds like a worthless rhetorical flourish. (To say it's a flourish is to give it too much credit.)  And what "rights" do engines have?

From what we can see of the new Trophy, it's designed to once again go head-to-head with the Germans, closely aping the looks of BMW's R1200RT.

With shaft drive, a wide protective fairing and that glorious three-cylinder engine, it should be very, very close.

I like the sound of that. It is typical of motorcycle companies to one-up each other - if Yamaha has 145 hp, Kawasaki must come out with a bike that has ten or fifteen more.  But to me, if you offer 90% of a premium bike for 70% of the cost, I consider that a better value.

So in other words, if they came out with a Trophy that is several thousand less than an equivalent BMW, it wouldn't matter that it doesn't have quite the total horsepower output or a few less standard features.

[Bowtie76]

I never understand why magazine writers like to say things like "performed better than it had any right to." What does that mean? It sounds like a worthless rhetorical flourish. (To say it's a flourish is to give it too much credit.)  And what "rights" do engines have?



I like the sound of that. It is typical of motorcycle companies to one-up each other - if Yamaha has 145 hp, Kawasaki must come out with a bike that has ten or fifteen more.  But to me, if you offer 90% of a premium bike for 70% of the cost, I consider that a better value.

So in other words, if they came out with a Trophy that is several thousand less than an equivalent BMW, it wouldn't matter that it doesn't have quite the total horsepower output or a few less standard features.

Kawasaki did that.  It was called the Connie (C10)

[crispiegee1]

Kawasaki did that.  It was called the Connie (C10)

I differ only in that the Connie 10 had REALLY old technology. But on the other hand, it worked acceptably, if you could put up with the lousy fuel mileage. Same thing with the KLR... really outdated technology, but as dependable as a shovel.

To me, Triumph counters BMW with bikes that are fully modern (unlike the Kwak examples above), but simply a couple features shy of the "premium" designation. It keeps the bike within reach of those of us who have budgets (or want to have enough left over to buy more bikes and gear).

[Bowtie76]

To me, Triumph counters BMW with bikes that are fully modern (unlike the Kwak examples above), but simply a couple features shy of the "premium" designation. It keeps the bike within reach of those of us who have budgets (or want to have enough left over to buy more bikes and gear).

My Sprint and I agree whole heartedly, But I'll allways have a soft spot in my heart for my old Connie  

[sammyseaman]

My Sprint and I agree whole heartedly, But I'll allways have a soft spot in my heart for my old Connie  

It's actually damage from the vibration of your old connie  

[desert_rider]

It's actually damage from the vibration of your old connie  

     

[Rincewind]

What a surprise from Triumph!  

Pics make it look like a BMW K1300GT - I would have mistaken it for one!



Pics at http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/November/nov1710-triumph-trophy-spy-shots/
and http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/November/nov1710-i-rode-the-first-trophy/

Triumph Trophy is back - 'I rode the first one'

By Phil West -

New bikes

 17 November 2010 12:02

The Triumph Trophy is back - see spy pictures and read the full story in this week's MCN.

With Triumph’s recent success dominated by Speed and Street Triples and big tourers being absent from its range since 2003, it’s easy to forget how significant the Trophy is to the Hinckley marque.

When Triumph relaunched 20 years ago its first bike wasn’t a Daytona or a Tiger or even a Trident (although two of those three were to follow very shortly after) – it was with the 1200 Trophy. I should know. I was the first journo to ride it.

In fact the word ‘significant’ doesn’t say the half of it. That first ride simply HAD to prove the new Triumph concern’s credibility.

The 1200 Trophy did just that – and more in fact. Over the subsequent, formative Hinckley years, the big tourer, both in 900 triple and 1200 four guises, and including one significant facelift in 1995, went onto to become one of the longest lived of the original Hinckley machines (only finally going out of production in 2003) and a vital steady seller.

Back then the Trophy certainly wasn’t cutting edge. But its solid, durable engineering, credible performance and contemporary (if conservative) style and spec were revolutionary enough at a time when British motorcycles were either jokes or classics or both.

The Trophy set Hinckley, literally, on its way. It’s return now looks set to take the firm into new territory yet again.

[marc11]

Wow I like what I see so far.  More and more, everyday my next bike seems to be getting closer and closer to being a Triumph.

[Yankee Dog]

I sure enjoyed my 02 Trophy, but I dont think I can wait until they finally get around to releasing a new one. Besides, I am fearful, it will be a bit portly, with all the "required" accoutrements motorcycles seems to need these days. I think I will keep my sights on the GT.  

yankee Dog

[pushr0d]

Mark my words...

I say that the Sprint GT was made 'bigger' than the ST to clear the market for a new 'Daytona' liter-class bike.  The new bike will use a de-stroked version of the mill in this new Trophy, and will probably be a screamer.

I predict the new Daytona will be the next 'spyshot' we see.  I'm guessing six months.

It seems they'd want to come up with another name.  Having two bikes with the same name is a bit confusing, eh?

[ScottB]

What, like the Tiger, the Tiger and the Tiger?  

[Rincewind]

Looks like the new Sprint GT hardcases were co-developed with this bike in mind.  Maybe the exhaust as well.

Some weird-ass risers on this test bike.

pushr0d - I hope you're right about a new liter-size Daytona.  

[marc11]

Those risers look adjustable.  Take the top spacer above the bar out and put it under the bars and the bars are higher, use different sized spacers in different configs and have different bar heights.  Or it could just be like the Ducati ST4 was, loosen some lock screws, slide the bars up or down on the shafts and tighten at the new height.  It that is what it looks like, that is freaking brilliant.

Footpegs look like that have some sort of adjustment plates on them too.  Both of these things could be just for development reasons to find the ideal heights for production, but man, if they were adjustable like that....

[pushr0d]

I'm thinking they're using the 'infinitely adjustable' risers to tweak the location of the production bikes' bars.

They may do the same thing with the pegs and levers.

Get the tall guy and the short guy and have them take the bike out and see how it fits...

[Yankee Dog]

yeah, I suppose actualy "selling" something to John Q. that could be adjusted to fit most anyone would make too much sense.  

Yankee Dog

[ANZAC]

More good news from Triumph  

Everyone has been waiting for this bike and I am sure Triumph will make it a winner.

[GRN]

Hmmm... liked my Sprint ST a lot, and the GT is at the top of the short list... new Trophy sounds good too, but maybe too much like the ST13 I'm trying to get away from.

[ConPilot1]

Looks very similar to a BMW RT.

I like it.