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We have been working on a product intended to integrate virtually all 3rd party electrical supply and management into one system, and on Friday we introduced it at the IMS. I think it would be of interest to this forum. Information is available at
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Interesting product...
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Will it tell you when the combined draw of all those farkles is overloading the alternator and killing the battery?
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Can we, The Pace Motorcycle Podcast, get two review units? We happily demo and review the units, and would be happy to refer buyers to you if the unit works as advertised.
Thanks.
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: FiremanBob on November 22, 2010, 06:57:33 PM
Will it tell you when the combined draw of all those farkles is overloading the alternator and killing the battery?
Now that would make it worth the dough!
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Very slick. I can see that device eliminating a lot of clutter.
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I am very interested --
a couple of suggestion, if I may . . .
waterproof -- I don't want to deal with a dry bag.
wrt to the control module enclosure -- spond a small amount of dough and hire a designer to hel make it look a bit more finished . . .
the functions are extremely intriguing, and it seems to be priced reasonably, as well . . . .. good for you folks!
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: bomber on November 23, 2010, 07:46:00 AM
waterproof -- I don't want to deal with a dry bag.
+1 , that's a must
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As long as the drybag is robust and you can mount it in a way that avoids it holding water, I'm not sure I see the big deal. I mean... how often are you *really* going to be down there futzing with it?
Point of fact, it's damned difficult to create something that 1) has quick-connect capability and 2) is waterproof.
You could replace the plug/socket approach with external screw terminals or an external large connector bus, and seal the unit completely. That's an option. But all of that - any way I can think of to fully seal the unit, really - would take away from the compact form factor and simple appearance. And its usefulness.
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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November 23, 2010, 08:22:22 AM »
No argument about the degree of difficulty --
As for the importance of waterproofing, clearly, you don't find that to be a deal killer, or are willing to work around it.
Fair enough.
Me, I would be much more likley to purchase if it was . . . hence the need for horse races.
The need for waterproofedness would have been demonstrated, again, for me, on Sunday.
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: JustCallMeChris on November 23, 2010, 08:08:48 AM
As long as the drybag is robust and you can mount it in a way that avoids it holding water, I'm not sure I see the big deal. I mean... how often are you *really* going to be down there futzing with it?
Point of fact, it's damned difficult to create something that 1) has quick-connect capability and 2) is waterproof.
You could replace the plug/socket approach with external screw terminals or an external large connector bus, and seal the unit completely. That's an option. But all of that - any way I can think of to fully seal the unit, really - would take away from the compact form factor and simple appearance. And its usefulness.
We do this all the time with aftermarket auto ECM's and the connections needed to tune, test and work with them. It's not hard.
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Interesting product. Will you be at all of the IMS locations?
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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November 23, 2010, 09:21:23 PM »
My biggest issue is the menu navigation required to do anything. When I adjust my heated gear I reach over to the knob and turn it. No fiddling with a screen.
My GPS, phone, radar are always on. No need to control them. Just plug 'em into my fuse block and go. I suppose you're saving me from hauling a Blackberry ciggie lighter adapter.
Aux lights are also on a switch. Sometimes I have to dim them quickly for oncoming traffic. You think I'm going to dink with a menu to turn them on and off?
Why do I have to pay extra for waterproofing?
Just not sold on it.
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: FiremanBob on November 22, 2010, 06:57:33 PM
Will it tell you when the combined draw of all those farkles is overloading the alternator and killing the battery?
Sorry for the delay in responding, but the answer is yes. Additionally, the system allow you to set a voltage alert level (at whatever voltage you want), and will even shut down all outputs if voltage drops to 1 volt below the alert level.
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: JustCallMeChris on November 23, 2010, 02:28:02 AM
Can we, The Pace Motorcycle Podcast, get two review units? We happily demo and review the units, and would be happy to refer buyers to you if the unit works as advertised.
Thanks.
Again, sorry for the delay in responding. Please email us at
sales@arborealsystems.com
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: 2wTraveler on November 23, 2010, 06:50:01 AM
Now that would make it worth the dough!
It sure does...and is well worth the dough!
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Quote from: Tyrroneous on November 23, 2010, 07:40:35 AM
Very slick. I can see that device eliminating a lot of clutter.
Yes, it does...and you can locate the controller wherever you like, or remove it entirely if you wish. You can even program the distribution unit with the controller, save he settings, remove the controller, and the settings will remain active.
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: bomber on November 23, 2010, 07:46:00 AM
I am very interested --
a couple of suggestion, if I may . . .
waterproof -- I don't want to deal with a dry bag.
the controller is completely waterproof, and in most install the distribution unit won't require the dry bag.
wrt to the control module enclosure -- spond a small amount of dough and hire a designer to hel make it look a bit more finished . . .
gosh, we think it's beautiful! Check it out in person and see what you think. SJBMW has them in stock.
the functions are extremely intriguing, and it seems to be priced reasonably, as well . . . .. good for you folks!
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Re: New product for managing electrical accessories
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Quote from: leeo45 on November 23, 2010, 09:11:14 PM
Interesting product. Will you be at all of the IMS locations?
No, we're small and busy! Hopefully you will see this thing start to become available through various retailers, but until then, it's available from our website.
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Quote from: jwhite518 on November 23, 2010, 09:21:23 PM
My biggest issue is the menu navigation required to do anything. When I adjust my heated gear I reach over to the knob and turn it. No fiddling with a screen.
My GPS, phone, radar are always on. No need to control them. Just plug 'em into my fuse block and go. I suppose you're saving me from hauling a Blackberry ciggie lighter adapter.
Aux lights are also on a switch. Sometimes I have to dim them quickly for oncoming traffic. You think I'm going to dink with a menu to turn them on and off?
Why do I have to pay extra for waterproofing?
Just not sold on it.
Good comments questions:
1. We've updated our software to allow you to set the "operational" screen as the default screen if you wish. This was done precisely to allow folks such as yourself to be able to use the system to quickly switch something. Since the system stays at the last circuit that was switched, with the operational screen visible you can literally switch a circuit as fast as you can with a hard-wired switch by pushing either the red or blue switches. The system is really fast to react, so there is essentially zero delay.
2. On the waterproofing question, the controller unit is totally waterproof, and the distribution module is certainly more waterproof than a Centech panel. Sorry if we haven't been very clear about this, but for most installations (similar to where you'd mount a Centech), there is no need for additional waterproofing. We just wanted to make sure that in the case someone wanted to mount the distribution module under the rear fender (or someplace equally wet), that we had a solution.
Hope this helps.
Dan
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