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Ducati Diavel Review [MO.com]
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While the Diavel is a new model, it nevertheless is comprised of many familiar Ducati components, the most prominent of which is its Testastretta 11° engine. This grunty, high-performance 1198.4cc 90-degree Twin (aka L-Twin) is sourced from the current model Multistrada. And with the exception of a new exhaust, it remains largely unchanged as used in the Diavel.
2011 Ducati Diavel exhaust
Ducati says the Diavel’s new exhaust is the key to extracting an extra 12 hp and 6.5 ft-lbs from the Testastretta 11 engine.
According to Giulio Malagoli, technical director on the Diavel project, the new Duc’s exhaust system, consisting of equal-length 58mm cross-section exhaust headers and dual stacked shorty megaphone cans, is the primary contributor to a 12 hp and 6.5 ft-lb increase over the Multi’s 150 hp and 87.5 ft-lbs. The Diavel’s airbox is marginally larger than the Mulitstrada’s, but the negligible increase in volume isn’t essential to power gains and is more a matter of technical needs. Additional revisions include different cam timing, as well as reworked intake and exhaust ports.
During the Diavel’s tech briefing Ducati displayed a dyno graph overlay with power and torque results for the 1198 superbike, Multistrada and Diavel
While the Diavel’s version of the Testastretta is in a race with the MTS, it handily out-powers the adventure-tourer after the 6500-rpm mark. The Diavel easily out guns the 1198 until around 7000 rpm where it manages to run almost neck-and-neck with the red racer until approximately 9000 rpm, at which point the 1198 stretches its superbike legs.
The Multistrada’s spread of torque is more evenly matched to the Diavel’s, until 6000 rpm at which point the new devil bike opens a large gap on the MTS and never looks back.
Taking the Ducati-supplied dynos at face value, the Diavel mops up against the 1198 in low-end torque production. Diavel twisting force is notably healthier than what the 1198 produces below approximately 7000 rpm. It’s only then that the race-bike-with-lights finally regains its ground (save for a short 500-rpm dip) and soon out-twists the Diavel by 9000 rpm.
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Another one on MD:
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/02/2011-ducati-diavel-md-first-ride/
"...Dare we say this is one of the most enjoyable bikes we have ever ridden. Not a cruiser, not a naked, not a sportbike. Just a Ducati. That is all you need to know."
Hmm. Maybe this can be a sport tourer.
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February 28, 2011, 03:18:08 AM »
Quote from: County Tar on February 26, 2011, 02:27:18 PM
Hmm. Maybe this can be a sport tourer.
I chatted with a guy on the Ducati stand at the annual motorcycle show in Birmingham, UK in December. I asked him specifically about a replacement for the ST series bikes which of course went out of production several years ago and to my mind were the most desirable Ducati for my use. He said that it was possible at some point in the future but that for the present, Ducati would probably be using the Diavel platform as the basis for several new models. Since then I have been trying to visualise a Diavel with more weather protection and hard panniers, and the idea seems more realistic having read the reviews of the Diavel so far. Could be interesting!
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With that HUGE rear tire, Duc has obviously given up on handling over styling. Expect chromed out MTS in the near future.
Of course, a 8" rear rim does allow you to put a car tire on the back.
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Reviews seem to love the handling. I'd love to ride one, even with a big rear.
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Quote from: birdrunner on February 28, 2011, 06:01:19 AM
With that HUGE rear tire, Duc has obviously given up on handling over styling. Expect chromed out MTS in the near future.
Of course, a 8" rear rim does allow you to put a car tire on the back.
I dunno Bird. I was skeptical too, and there is indeed some reports of low-speed (sub 50kph) desire to push, but beyond that it seems to be doing well. And as a person who's always been a bit of a wide load, it's nice to have a bike that resembles the owner from the rear.
But you're probably right, this thing will be a popular drug money bling cycle. Wonder how long before the customizers try to stretch the swingarm?
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couple of weeks, tops...
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I like it. It's not a cruiser, but whatever you call it it's nice. A mild touring version would be very nice.
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May 25, 2011, 08:00:18 AM »
I saw one on Sunday. I'm sure they're nice to ride, but think they're ugly. Kind of a big, giant Monster-something. To me a Ducati should be a supersport or superbike. The monsters sell like hotcakes, however, and have probably kept Ducati in business. Happy for that.
I hope they sell a zillion of them - and keep making real sport bikes.
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Saw a guy on my street with one this AM, apparently brand new (along with a brand new Dainese jacket)
Dang, that thing is ugly.
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I wouldn't touch it with my ten foot penis...is fugly
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Quote from: birdrunner on February 28, 2011, 06:01:19 AM
With that HUGE rear tire, Duc has obviously given up on handling over styling. Expect chromed out MTS in the near future.
Of course, a 8" rear rim does allow you to put a car tire on the back.
You didn't read any of the articles, huh?
They said the bike handles outstanding.
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I'll be riding one of these things on Sunday...looks better in person than in pics. I'm excited!
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Quote from: MadOzodi on June 10, 2011, 08:06:40 PM
I'll be riding one of these things on Sunday...looks better in person than in pics. I'm excited!
I saw one as well and agree it's a pretty cool looking bike.
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I checked 'em out at the moto show - it seemed to me that there was one riding position only, which wouldn't be so good long-distance (referring to sport-touring potential).
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The president of our DOC rode one in Italy for a week, said it was one of the best out of the box Duc's he's ever ridden. HyperMotard is still his favorite. I'm hoping we get a loaner for our club ride in a few weeks.
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They had one at the local italian bike day demo rides the other weekend... On the first demo out, a young blonde woman danced with the Diavel. I was behind her on a Dorsoduro. I was quite impressed with her abilities, or maybe it is just a very easy bike to ride.
Here a friend of mine took it out later. I was too busy demo riding other bikes. The retractable pillion pegs are very trick. Looks like a nice bike overall.
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I thoroughly enjoyed my demo ride on the Diavel this past Sunday. As vertically and inseam challenged as I am, it's a very easy bike to ride; particularly the slow speed/parking lot maneuvers. Not surprising since I can flatfoot the bike! I didn't know what to do with myself at first.
Even with the 240 rear tire, the Diavel was quick to avoid manhole covers, potholes, and all the other city street irregularities. I also achieved greater lean angle than I expected.
Urban mode is perfect for around town. In Sport mode I don't think I had the opportunity to take the mill past 5 or 6k rpms, but the difference was still very noticeable. Cool ride for sure.
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I checked the Diavel out. It is sweet.
Seems to me the complainers are not in the market for any new bike over $5K anyway...
Kinda like me beeyotchin over the latest Lambo..
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Quote from: atadaskew on June 14, 2011, 02:17:02 PM
I checked the Diavel out. It is sweet.
Seems to me the complainers are not in the market for any new bike over $5K anyway...
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NO SADDLE BAGS
Blows my mind as to how many peops prefer to backpack needlessly on a motorcycle. Fuck that!! Other than that I would buy one.
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http://confederate.com/motorcycles/fighter/
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Saw one in Portland with a set of termi's on it
blew my mind at idle! Sounds way better than any other duc IMO. The bike is very maneuverable and fast. Alas it doesn't have the suspension comfort or quite as maneuverable as the Multistrada 1200 and
NO SADDLE BAGS
Blows my mind as to how many peops prefer to backpack needlessly on a motorcycle. Fuck that!! Other than that I would buy one.
..... and the refined Diavel
I was told by a Ducati rep at the Birmingham (UK) motorcycle show last year that Ducati intend to use the Diavel as a basis for more models, possibly including a sport-tourer to replace the ST series. I could live with a Diavel with hard bags and more weather protection. We can but hope....
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HAd some road time on a Diavel this weekend. Not enough to test it thoroughly, but included some highway time and some back road time, maybe 25-30 miles.
Wow! I loved it. From the saddle, it reminded me of a Bimota DB6 Delerio on steroids, because of its ergos (really similar, but much more comfortable due to room for your 'boys' between the legs), similar power delivery and musical exhaust.
Also reminded me of my Tuono - wide bars with amazing responsive steering. I didn't expect the thing to lumber around corners, but MAN it was responsive.
Pretty smooth too - shifting OK, love the little colored screen on the tank, though it's a bit low.
What else stuck with me...loved the smooth power. I think it was in sport mode, with traction set to 1, so I took it easy off the line and when laying on the throttle to pass on the dotted yellow sections.
Smoother than I expected.
The passenger pegs are big levers that fold right up. No trouble with the kickstand (thought I read something about it once).
What a comfortable and POWERFUL bike? While smooth, it's power definitely had more of a punch compared to the smoothness of, say, a K1300S or Busa. This thing wants to rock. Spent most of the time between 40-80 and it seemed happiest in 3rd gear.
Great clutch, great brakes, suspension was a bit stiff for me (needed to be set, stiff even for the owner who has about 25-30 lbs on me).
Looks are subjective, but objectively this is a VERY capable, comfortable bike. I get why they call it a cruiser. You sit low, the bars are pretty high and you are in an easy upright position, feet slightly forward, somewhere between forward and mid controls. Kind of like a GS, with the feet a little forward, but your ass is MUCH closer to the ground.
Really liked it. Like a laid back Ducati Street Fighter with more torque, although the laid back comment is more related to the ergos than the engine. This bike is a beast of an engine.
Overall, liked it a lot, does exactly what it's supposed to. Would have liked to play with the settings and maybe beat on it a little more, but it's only got 650+ miles, and I just didn't have the time. Anyone who rides this thing will love it. Like a naked powerful twin (street fighter / tuono / DB6 Delerio) but less like a giant super-motard and more of an easygoing seating position. The wide bars are similar to both the street fighter and Tuono, and it's almost as angry, but it's just more comfortable and easy to ride. Not much, but a little less angry than my old Tuono.
Thumbs up Ducati!
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Wow! I loved it....yadda, yadda...What a comfortable and POWERFUL bike?...yadda, yadda...Really liked it...yadda, yadda...liked it a lot...yadda, yadda...Thumbs up Ducati!
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Looked at one today as well as the Street fighter. $18K
Although I not had one before, I see a Duc of some type in my future.
They had an '08 HM that was pretty cool as well.
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