Councourse or Sprint St?

[Capirex]

This thread was originally a troll by the OP in an attempt to get the necessary number of posts to see the classifieds.  Since you guys are now taking it seriously I'd like to change my answer.  

[Squidlius]

Secondary Butterfly valves.  The idea behind it is that Kawi (and other vendors) keep them closed until a certain RPM is reached or in 6th gear.  By removing them altogether and outfitting with an ECU modder such as a Power Commander, you gain significant performance.

I know many, if not most disagree but by removing the secondary throttle plates, the performance gains often come at the expense of ridability if you're super picky about your throttle response. Smaller/different shaped secondary throttle plates are the way to go if you want the performance gain and still maintain your seemless smooth throttle response. On some bikes if you have big intake passages on the throttle bodies and no secondary plates, you have to be careful not to whack the throttle open too far too fast at lower RPMs or you can "drown" the engine with too much fuel/air causing a bog.  

[CrazyRider]

...or a GenII FZ1.

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Frankly, keep your opinion to yourself about the FZ1  . Yours was perhaps a lemon ... no offense ..

[XLR8]

I know many, if not most disagree but by removing the secondary throttle plates, the performance gains often come at the expense of ridability if you're super picky about your throttle response. Smaller/different shaped secondary throttle plates are the way to go if you want the performance gain and still maintain your seemless smooth throttle response. On some bikes if you have big intake passages on the throttle bodies and no secondary plates, you have to be careful not to whack the throttle open too far too fast at lower RPMs or you can "drown" the engine with too much fuel/air causing a bog.  

Agree.  

Having just recently purchased a C14, I think the bike has plenty of power and can't imagine why I'd want to "remove my flies". Someone mentioned lag.    This isn't drag bike and it's designed to get the rider, passenger and full side cases off the line in a reasonable manner. Perhaps this is what you were feeling.

[Cablebandit]

I know many, if not most disagree but by removing the secondary throttle plates, the performance gains often come at the expense of ridability if you're super picky about your throttle response. Smaller/different shaped secondary throttle plates are the way to go if you want the performance gain and still maintain your seemless smooth throttle response. On some bikes if you have big intake passages on the throttle bodies and no secondary plates, you have to be careful not to whack the throttle open too far too fast at lower RPMs or you can "drown" the engine with too much fuel/air causing a bog.  

I guess I'm one of the many.    Removing the secondaries make the bike much more ridable at lower RPM.  Especially with a passenger.  

Oh, for the record my throttle response is silky smooth as well.  If you are bogging the engine by whacking the throttle I think your bike has bigger issues.  The only thing that happens when you whack the throttle is the front wheel may lift some.

[evilted]

If you're planning to ride 2-up frequently, or spend a lot of time on the interstate, the C14 may be a better choice.

Otherwise, there's very little not to like about the Sprint ST after you sort out the suspension (Showa 49C damper rod) and fix the spongy front brake lever issue (drop in 6-pot Tokicos sourced from a wrecked Hayabusa).  The factory headlamps are less than stellar if you plan to ride at night a lot, but some fork tube mounted aux lighting would probably enhance your ability to see into turns (never mounted any myself).

The 1050 may not post the peak HP figures of a C14 mill, but it's a very, very good "little" motor.  Plenty of torque from 3 or 4K north, just roll-on and go.  Excellent fuel economy while touring (50 MPG for me if the odometer can be believed), valves always in spec every time they were checked, best factory fueling of any FI bike I've owned (most miles with the stock can & stock map).

Plus Sprint STs are available for dirt cheap.  I only sold mine because I got a deal on an MTS1200.

[cornercarver]

I know many, if not most disagree but by removing the secondary throttle plates, the performance gains often come at the expense of ridability if you're super picky about your throttle response. Smaller/different shaped secondary throttle plates are the way to go if you want the performance gain and still maintain your seemless smooth throttle response. On some bikes if you have big intake passages on the throttle bodies and no secondary plates, you have to be careful not to whack the throttle open too far too fast at lower RPMs or you can "drown" the engine with too much fuel/air causing a bog.  

Just had my ecu for my 2011 connie remapped by Joe at dynotronics. The flies stay in as they should. They are opened up a lot sooner with the remap. He also changes the timing and air fuel for your set up. I have a Vance and Hines cs1 and kn air filter. Just went on a test ride 2ND gear wheelie with no effort.

[greench440]

There's no "e" in Concours

[Cablebandit]

There's no "e" in Concours

Well it's not the only misinformation in the thread.