Welcome to ST.N
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
May 22, 2013, 04:15:20 PM
"Never argue with an 18-wheeler."
Home
Forums
Photo Gallery
Login
Register
Shop @ MG.C
Shop @ ST.N
Contact
Sport-Touring.Net
»
The Club House
»
Manufacturer Row
»
Yamaha
» Topic:
When will the FJR get a make over?
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
All
Go Down
Print
Topic: When will the FJR get a make over? (Read 10116 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
tigertom1965
Any GIS job openings available?
Reputation 0
Offline
Motorcycles: 09 BMW R1200RT Black Sapphire w/Premium Package
GPS: Kunkletown, PA 18058
Miles Typed: 614
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #20 on:
July 14, 2011, 11:24:05 AM »
Driver adjustable ECU!! No company will allow that. The bike has to be made to handle emmission standards. In PA you are not supposed to mess with anything emmission related or you will not pass inspection. Since they make this bike 49 or 50 state legal to keep costs down they will not make a driver adjustable ECU. My 2 cents.
I have cruise control on my R1200RT and do use it but only for short periods of time to give my hand a rest. Around here you just cannot ride with cruise on because of all the crappy drivers on the road. It wouldn't be safe. I feel safer with both my hands on the handlebars anyway. A throttle lock would work just as well. On my C10 I tried the giant o-ring but spent more time fiddling with it to get it to work then keeping my eyes on the road.
It was not a safe alternative at all. They could put on a Throttle Meister from the factory if they wanted to. At least it wouldn't cost a new owner $129 later.
The C10 was an aged platform but since no one else out there had a better alternative for much of the time they could get away with it. Now there are many alternatives to the FJR they have to keep it from getting stale or they will lose their market share. Even Triumph is coming out with a new ST bike with shaft drive to compete with the BMW. So Yamaha will have to do better if they want to keep selling these bikes. If they bump up their HP and fuel mileage they might sell better as is but I see them coming out with a redesign soon. They used to get 145 HP from a 1995 FZR1000 why is it their 1300 only makes that much HP and gets less fuel mileage to boot?? If they came out with a FZ1 with better body work to handle the wind and the rain, better fuel mileage, more upright seating, hard bags as stock, and cheaper insurance I would buy one. All these sporty bikes are killing me with insurance in PA because helmets are not needed here. Once the helmet laws changed the insurance jumped.
Logged
Can't the Weather Channel get the forcast right two days in a row?? It used to be that they could create a forecast for 2 days in the future and get it right. Now if it is more than 4 hours in th
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #20 on:
July 14, 2011, 11:24:05 AM »
Logged
Bain Dramage
Reputation 1
Offline
Motorcycles: 2008 BMW R 1200 RT
GPS: Elk Grove, Ca
Miles Typed: 68
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #21 on:
July 24, 2011, 08:45:04 AM »
My riding style is more "touring" than "sporting", so with that perspective in mind I think the FJR is a great bike - I almost bought one a few years back - but if I were putting together a wish-list:
Electronic cruise control. I use mine a lot.
Larger fuel tank and/or better fuel economy. My friends stop a LOT more than I do to re-fuel. (I do not think it needs more power, just more efficient use of the power).
More electrical output.
Logged
Jay S.
Reputation 7
Offline
Motorcycles: 2010 FZ6R
Miles Typed: 131
My Photo Gallery
Life is a highway...
Glimpse of the FJR makeover???
«
Reply #22 on:
August 05, 2011, 02:03:48 PM »
http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle_news/first_looks_articles/10q3/2011_yamahas_-_first_look
Logged
moto2wheelin
Reputation 1
Offline
Motorcycles: 2010 Kawasaki Concours
GPS: Carrollton, Georgia
Miles Typed: 122
My Photo Gallery
Re: Glimpse of the FJR makeover???
«
Reply #23 on:
August 05, 2011, 03:21:37 PM »
Quote from: Jay S. on August 05, 2011, 02:03:48 PM
http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle_news/first_looks_articles/10q3/2011_yamahas_-_first_look
Let's hope not as that is just a mix of all of them, didn't turn out too good in my eyes!
Logged
'10 Kawasaki C14
http://community.webshots.com/user/concoursbdh
Spectreman
Junior Member
Reputation 5
Offline
Motorcycles: 2003 Kawasaki ZRX 1200
GPS: Ft. Lauderdale, Fl.
Miles Typed: 465
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #24 on:
August 06, 2011, 07:27:11 AM »
That pic has been floating around the web for a while now. I know I posted a copy of it on another site well over a year ago.
No doubt, the FJR is due for a reboot. The competition has upped the mark & the current FJR, as good as it is, is getting a little long in the tooth. Time for Yamaha to step up to the plate!
Lee
Logged
Without courage, all other virtues are meaningless. Winston Churchill
swimmer
Amazing Member
Reputation 8
Offline
Years Contributed: '07, '08, '09
Motorcycles: 2011 Tiger 800 Roadie
GPS: Tucson
Miles Typed: 2398
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #25 on:
August 12, 2011, 05:32:41 PM »
Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear. Seems that would be an obvious want.
Logged
Roadscum
Reputation 5
Offline
Motorcycles: '06 BMW K12GT, '12 Yamaha Super Tenere, '09 Triumph Scrambler, 96 BMW K11RS (in Europe)
GPS: SW Florida
Miles Typed: 213
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #26 on:
August 13, 2011, 04:58:13 AM »
Quote from: swimmer on August 12, 2011, 05:32:41 PM
Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear. Seems that would be an obvious want.
Why a 6th gear? With the broad power band of the 1300 the 5 speed tranny is all you need and it is vey well matched to the motor.
For me the basic aritecture of the FJR is good, just loose a little weight, fix the throttle, add cruise control {and maybe taction control), update the look a bit and I'm in!!
Regards, Paul
Logged
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #26 on:
August 13, 2011, 04:58:13 AM »
Logged
Wildcatfan
Reputation 0
Offline
Motorcycles: FZ6
Miles Typed: 10
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #27 on:
October 14, 2011, 11:55:56 AM »
I hope it has a better looking exhaust than the one in the picture!
Logged
David Morrow
Reputation 3
Offline
Motorcycles: FJR
GPS: Vancouver, B.C.
Miles Typed: 588
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #28 on:
October 15, 2011, 10:22:12 PM »
Quote from: swimmer on August 12, 2011, 05:32:41 PM
Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear. Seems that would be an obvious want.
Not obvious in my world. I like the 5 speed.
Logged
SS1000, SS2000, BB1500, BBG1500, TransCanada Quest, TransCanada Gold(2005), TransCanada Gold(2007)
AzItLies
Reputation -72
Offline
Miles Typed: 191
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #29 on:
October 15, 2011, 11:17:22 PM »
Quote from: swimmer on August 12, 2011, 05:32:41 PM
Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear. Seems that would be an obvious want.
This is a common thing one hears regarding these types of bikes, be it st13, fjr, some of the beemers...
I think it's a misconception though... Those that think a 6th gear is obviously needed don't seem to realize that gearing (the ratio's) will always be adjusted for the engines power band.
In other words, adding a 6th gear WOULD NOT result in the bikes gearing being the same as it is now, with the simple addition of a 6th. What would happen is the gearing would change for ea gear, and 6th would then be just slightly different then what 5th is now.
Another way to explain it would be like this: if a 6th gear was added without changing the other gears... you'd be out of the engines "power band". The rev's would be too low, the engine would be lugging, as you tried to accelerate. You'd have no passing or accelerating capability.
That's why the gearing would have to change for ea gear, so you would be in the "power band" in ea gear (including your newly added 6th gear).
Why do that? what point is there? The power band of these bikes is quite wide... 5 gears does the trick
Logged
Huron52
I wanna ride
Reputation 10
Offline
Motorcycles: 2004 FJR1300, 2008 WR250R
GPS: Left Coast of Ontario....
Miles Typed: 727
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #30 on:
October 21, 2011, 07:17:44 PM »
I agree with Bounce .... needs more wattage
6th gear? I don't think so.... AzLtLies hit it on the head!
I'm keeping mine until I wear it out....
The bike does what it suppose to do.
Logged
Flightar
Junior Member
Reputation 10
Offline
Motorcycles: 1997 Yamaha YZF 750R, 2004 Honda VFR 800
GPS: Florida
Miles Typed: 114
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #31 on:
November 02, 2011, 03:43:56 PM »
Suggested FJR improvements:
1. 900 watt alternator.
2. Stiffer suspension and get rid of the stupid lever...a knurled knob ala VFR 800 ABS is better.
3. OPTIONAL traction control.
4. OPTIONAL electronic cruise control.
5. OPTIONAL heated seat.
6. Adjustable foot pegs, seat and handlebars.
7. Heated grips standard.
8. Power socket standard.
9. Trip computer.
10. OPTIONAL electronic suspension adjustments.
Nothing else is required
Logged
Jetpilot5
Junior Member
Reputation 20
Offline
Motorcycles: 2012 BMW K1300S
GPS: Decatur IL
Miles Typed: 1627
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #32 on:
November 02, 2011, 04:40:48 PM »
6. Adjustable foot pegs, seat and handlebars.
Seat and handlebars are already adjustable.
7. Heated grips standard.
Heated grips have been standard since the 2011 model.
8. Power socket standard.
It has one as standard but it's located in the glove box, not the best location.
9. Trip computer.
It already has electronic analog speedometer and tachometer; LCD digital odometer, dual tripmeters, gear position indicator, fuel, coolant and air temperature gauges, and clock; lights for neutral, high beam, turn signals, low oil and engine warnings—as well as real-time mileage, average mileage and air temperature. It also reads out miles traveled on reserve. I suppose miles remaining till reserve could be handy, but it does have a fuel gauge.
Logged
Region 4 Meet 04, 05, 06, 07, 08 | CSTN 07 | ST.N National 08, 10, 12 | Region 4 Track Day 09
Kneescrubber
King of the 90º flat turn
Reputation 5
Offline
Motorcycles: '99 Honda VFR, '73 BMW R75/5
GPS: The western U.S. is strewn with paper maps I've lost from my tankbag.
Miles Typed: 3192
My Photo Gallery
Just a little more
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #33 on:
November 02, 2011, 06:32:04 PM »
Be careful what you wish for.
Logged
I'm on ST.N so its not like I'm a productive member of society anyway. DogBoy
It's the internet. It runs on drama. Cablebandit
A squid with gear is a Hooligan. dm_gsxr
Members, please
login
to hide this ad.
Guests, please
register
to hide this ad.
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #33 on:
November 02, 2011, 06:32:04 PM »
Logged
Justin
Reputation 40
Online
Years Contributed: '08
Motorcycles: 2008 Hayabusa - 2004 FJR
GPS: Sunny Colorado
Miles Typed: 5643
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #34 on:
November 03, 2011, 12:19:11 AM »
Quote from: Flightar on November 02, 2011, 03:43:56 PM
Suggested FJR improvements:
1. 900 watt alternator.
Shooting pretty high there
Why run 2 pairs of aux light when you can run six pair!!!!!
Logged
FAST: 2004 "Silver Bullet" FJR1300
FASTER: 2008 Touring/Endurance Hayabusa - SWMotech Rack, Givi luggage, MRA Vario Screen, Dual HID, Power Commander, Yoshimura TRC, 5G Aux Fuel cell, Dual 3000 Lumen LEDs
Cablebandit
Pig Wrangler
Reputation 75
Offline
Motorcycles: '10 Flying Pig
GPS: Stormstown PA
Miles Typed: 4460
My Photo Gallery
Certified Maniac
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #35 on:
November 03, 2011, 06:25:30 AM »
When you start running heated gear for two and an extra light or two you run out of watts really quick.
Logged
IBA #33260
https://www.facebook.com/TheCablebandits
"since I actually have a twat I can complain all I want to" - viffergyrl
"I pooped at the highest point in West Virginia" - molferen
Bounce
FJR1300
Reputation 9
Offline
GPS: Texas - USA
Miles Typed: 1640
My Photo Gallery
Re: Glimpse of the FJR makeover???
«
Reply #36 on:
November 03, 2011, 09:09:47 AM »
Quote from: Jay S. on August 05, 2011, 02:03:48 PM
http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle_news/first_looks_articles/10q3/2011_yamahas_-_first_look
blech! they used the ST1300 side cases! what were they thinking?
Logged
FJR-Tips.org
IBA #285
Flightar
Junior Member
Reputation 10
Offline
Motorcycles: 1997 Yamaha YZF 750R, 2004 Honda VFR 800
GPS: Florida
Miles Typed: 114
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #37 on:
November 05, 2011, 03:32:15 PM »
Quote from: Jetpilot5 on November 02, 2011, 04:40:48 PM
6. Adjustable foot pegs, seat and handlebars.
Seat and handlebars are already adjustable.
RE: Yes, but foot peg adjustability would be a nice improvement.
7. Heated grips standard.
Heated grips have been standard since the 2011 model.
RE: Didn't know this was made standard...
8. Power socket standard.
It has one as standard but it's located in the glove box, not the best location.
RE: Then it needs two!
9. Trip computer.
It already has electronic analog speedometer and tachometer; LCD digital odometer, dual tripmeters, gear position indicator, fuel, coolant and air temperature gauges, and clock; lights for neutral, high beam, turn signals, low oil and engine warnings—as well as real-time mileage, average mileage and air temperature. It also reads out miles traveled on reserve. I suppose miles remaining till reserve could be handy, but it does have a fuel gauge.
RE: As would average speed, direction of travel, and elasped time.
Logged
corndogs
Reputation 1
Offline
Motorcycles: 07 FJR1300AE, 09 DRZ400S, 08 CBR1000RR
Miles Typed: 14
My Photo Gallery
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #38 on:
January 18, 2012, 09:21:53 AM »
Love my FJR but yes, it needs some updating. Making it lighter is not really a concern but I would like to see it handle better.
Logged
HipGnosis
A.K.A. MrRSr . . . . . . It's Hip to Gno
Reputation 5
Offline
Years Contributed: '10
Motorcycles: K1200RS, Ninja 650
GPS: SE Wisc
Miles Typed: 4443
My Photo Gallery
Mercenary doppleganger scout
Re: When will the FJR get a make over?
«
Reply #39 on:
January 20, 2012, 05:22:11 PM »
Quote from: corndogs on January 18, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
Love my FJR but yes, it needs some updating. Making it lighter is not really a concern but I would like to see it handle better.
Paging jadziadax8 to introduce you to physics.
Logged
K12RS: Haulin Class - Kawi 650R: Neighborhoodlum
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
All
Go Up
Print
Sport-Touring.Net
»
The Club House
»
Manufacturer Row
»
Yamaha
» Topic:
When will the FJR get a make over?
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Administration
-----------------------------
=> Announcements & Rules
-----------------------------
The Open Road
-----------------------------
=> General Sport-Touring Discussion
=> Ride Reports
=> Motorcycle Polls
=> Beginner's Garage
=> ST.N Rallies/Meets
===> STN National
===> Borscht Burn
===> ESTN
===> SNOB
===> WCRM
-----------------------------
The Club House
-----------------------------
=> Pit Row
=> Iron Butt
=> Dirt Lovers
===> Off Road Ride Reports
=> Manufacturer Row
===> Aprilia
===> BMW
===> Buell
===> Ducati
===> Harley-Davidson
===> Honda
===> Kawasaki
===> KTM
===> Moto Guzzi
===> Suzuki
===> Triumph
===> Yamaha
===> Other
-----------------------------
The Tech Zone
-----------------------------
=> Mods & Maintenance
=> Gadgets
=> Gear and Apparel
-----------------------------
Global Positioning
-----------------------------
=> U.S. Region 1
=> U.S. Region 2
=> U.S. Region 3
=> U.S. Region 4
=> U.S. Region 5
=> U.S. Region 6
=> Canada
=> Europe & U.K.
=> Australia & New Zealand
-----------------------------
The Marketplace
-----------------------------
=> Bike Tech
=> Bikes Only
=> Non-bike Items
=> Vendor, Group Buy, Member Offers
-----------------------------
The Lounge
-----------------------------
=> Off Topic Discussion
=> EOE: Experts On Everything
Loading...
Copyright © 2001 - 2013 Sport-Touring.Net.
All rights reserved.
SimplePortal 2.3.1 © 2008-2009, SimplePortal