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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2011, 11:24:05 AM »

Driver adjustable ECU!! No company will allow that. The bike has to be made to handle emmission standards. In PA you are not supposed to mess with anything emmission related or you will not pass inspection. Since they make this bike 49 or 50 state legal to keep costs down they will not make a driver adjustable ECU. My 2 cents.
I have cruise control on my R1200RT and do use it but only for short periods of time to give my hand a rest. Around here you just cannot ride with cruise on because of all the crappy drivers on the road. It wouldn't be safe. I feel safer with both my hands on the handlebars anyway. A throttle lock would work just as well. On my C10 I tried the giant o-ring but spent more time fiddling with it to get it to work then keeping my eyes on the road. EEK! It was not a safe alternative at all. They could put on a Throttle Meister from the factory if they wanted to. At least it wouldn't cost a new owner $129 later.
The C10 was an aged platform but since no one else out there had a better alternative for much of the time they could get away with it. Now there are many alternatives to the FJR they have to keep it from getting stale or they will lose their market share. Even Triumph is coming out with a new ST bike with shaft drive to compete with the BMW. So Yamaha will have to do better if they want to keep selling these bikes. If they bump up their HP and fuel mileage they might sell better as is but I see them coming out with a redesign soon. They used to get 145 HP from a 1995 FZR1000 why is it their 1300 only makes that much HP and gets less fuel mileage to boot?? If they came out with a FZ1 with better body work to handle the wind and the rain, better fuel mileage, more upright seating, hard bags as stock, and cheaper insurance I would buy one. All these sporty bikes are killing me with insurance in PA because helmets are not needed here. Once the helmet laws changed the insurance jumped.
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2011, 11:24:05 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2011, 08:45:04 AM »

My riding style is more "touring" than "sporting", so with that perspective in mind I think the FJR is a great bike - I almost bought one a few years back - but if I were putting together a wish-list:

Electronic cruise control. I use mine a lot.

Larger fuel tank and/or better fuel economy. My friends stop a LOT more than I do to re-fuel. (I do not think it needs more power, just more efficient use of the power).

More electrical output.

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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2011, 02:03:48 PM »

http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle_news/first_looks_articles/10q3/2011_yamahas_-_first_look

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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2011, 03:21:37 PM »




Let's hope not as that is just a mix of all of them, didn't turn out too good in my eyes!
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2011, 07:27:11 AM »

That pic has been floating around the web for a while now. I know I posted a copy of it on another site well over a year ago.

No doubt, the FJR is due for a reboot. The competition has upped the mark & the current FJR, as good as it is, is getting a little long in the tooth. Time for Yamaha to step up to the plate!
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2011, 05:32:41 PM »

Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear.  Seems that would be an obvious want.
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2011, 04:58:13 AM »


Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear.  Seems that would be an obvious want.


Why a 6th gear? With the broad power band of the 1300 the 5 speed tranny is all you need and it is vey well matched to the motor.  
For me the basic aritecture of the FJR is good, just loose a little weight, fix the throttle, add cruise control {and maybe taction control), update the look a bit  and I'm in!!

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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2011, 11:55:56 AM »

I hope it has a better looking exhaust than the one in the picture!
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2011, 10:22:12 PM »


Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear.  Seems that would be an obvious want.


Not obvious in my world. I like the 5 speed.
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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2011, 11:17:22 PM »


Nobody mentioned having a 6th gear.  Seems that would be an obvious want.


This is a common thing one hears regarding these types of bikes, be it st13, fjr, some of the beemers...

I think it's a misconception though... Those that think a 6th gear is obviously needed don't seem to realize that gearing (the ratio's) will always be adjusted for the engines power band.

In other words, adding a 6th gear WOULD NOT result in the bikes gearing being the same as it is now, with the simple addition of a 6th. What would happen is the gearing would change for ea gear, and 6th would then be just slightly different then what 5th is now.

Another way to explain it would be like this: if a 6th gear was added without changing the other gears... you'd be out of the engines "power band". The rev's would be too low, the engine would be lugging, as you tried to accelerate. You'd have no passing or accelerating capability.

That's why the gearing would have to change for ea gear, so you would be in the "power band" in ea gear (including your newly added 6th gear).

Why do that? what point is there? The power band of these bikes is quite wide... 5 gears does the trick Wink
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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2011, 07:17:44 PM »

I agree with Bounce .... needs more wattage  

 6th gear? I don't think so.... AzLtLies hit it on the head!

I'm keeping mine until I wear it out....  Lol

The bike does what it suppose to do.
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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2011, 03:43:56 PM »

Suggested FJR improvements:

1. 900 watt alternator.
2. Stiffer suspension and get rid of the stupid lever...a knurled knob ala VFR 800 ABS is better.
3. OPTIONAL traction control.
4. OPTIONAL electronic cruise control.
5. OPTIONAL heated seat.
6. Adjustable foot pegs, seat and handlebars.
7. Heated grips standard.
8. Power socket standard.
9. Trip computer.
10. OPTIONAL electronic suspension adjustments.

Nothing else is required
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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2011, 04:40:48 PM »


6. Adjustable foot pegs, seat and handlebars. Seat and handlebars are already adjustable.
7. Heated grips standard. Heated grips have been standard since the 2011 model.
8. Power socket standard. It has one as standard but it's located in the glove box, not the best location.
9. Trip computer. It already has electronic analog speedometer and tachometer; LCD digital odometer, dual tripmeters, gear position indicator, fuel, coolant and air temperature gauges, and clock; lights for neutral, high beam, turn signals, low oil and engine warnings—as well as real-time mileage, average mileage and air temperature.  It also reads out miles traveled on reserve.  I suppose miles remaining till reserve could be handy, but it does have a fuel gauge.
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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2011, 06:32:04 PM »

Be careful what you wish for.


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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2011, 12:19:11 AM »


Suggested FJR improvements:

1. 900 watt alternator.



Shooting pretty high there  Lol

Why run 2 pairs of aux light when you can run six pair!!!!!
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2011, 06:25:30 AM »

When you start running heated gear for two and an extra light or two you run out of watts really quick.
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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2011, 09:09:47 AM »


blech! they used the ST1300 side cases! what were they thinking?
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2011, 03:32:15 PM »



6. Adjustable foot pegs, seat and handlebars. Seat and handlebars are already adjustable.

RE: Yes, but foot peg adjustability would be a nice improvement.

7. Heated grips standard. Heated grips have been standard since the 2011 model.

RE: Didn't know this was made standard...

8. Power socket standard. It has one as standard but it's located in the glove box, not the best location.

RE: Then it needs two!

9. Trip computer. It already has electronic analog speedometer and tachometer; LCD digital odometer, dual tripmeters, gear position indicator, fuel, coolant and air temperature gauges, and clock; lights for neutral, high beam, turn signals, low oil and engine warnings—as well as real-time mileage, average mileage and air temperature.  It also reads out miles traveled on reserve.  I suppose miles remaining till reserve could be handy, but it does have a fuel gauge.

RE: As would average speed, direction of travel, and elasped time.

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« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2012, 09:21:53 AM »

Love my FJR but yes, it needs some updating.  Making it lighter is not really a concern but I would like to see it handle better.  
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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2012, 05:22:11 PM »


Love my FJR but yes, it needs some updating.  Making it lighter is not really a concern but I would like to see it handle better.  
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