Man in truck attempts to run motorcyclist off the road, on video

[kyzrex]

Bad BIke driver started the road rage by endangering all by passing on a double yellow.

Bikers Fault that gives us all bad names.  Truck is not excused bit bike made the first dumb move.  This is Kentucky, soooooooooo

this is Kentucky, sooooooo..........WHAT?

crossing on double yellow is not uncommon in this area, either by bikes or cars.  Because of the terrain, on many of the backroads around here there are few passing zones marked.  Farming area also, there are many slow moving trucks on these roads.  Police are involved and have said that the initial pass is of no concern to them.  It was clean and did not endanger either involved.

[scarecrow]

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So to sum it up you bought a crotch rocket for nice peaceful rides.

[OrangeSVS]

So to sum it up you bought a crotch rocket for nice peaceful rides.

Yep. That's what I tell people publicly.    

Some retards even believe it.    


Actually, I bought it to ride... slow, fast, in heavy traffic, on open roads, gravel roads, twisties, straights, whatever life throws at me, that's where I ride it.

So to sum it up, I bought it to ride. Every Day. Rain or shine. Whether I have the chance to wick up the throttle or not. I mean, if you're one of those fair weather riders who only ride when conditions are conducive to going fast, then that's cool dude. Lots of people only ride during nice weather and only when they feel it's "fun" and they can go fast. There's nothing wrong with being a fair weather rider, dude. Good on you for liking how you ride!    

[Akumu]

Bad BIke driver started the road rage by endangering all by passing on a double yellow.

Bikers Fault that gives us all bad names.  Truck is not excused bit bike made the first dumb move.  This is Kentucky, soooooooooo

Fuck me, I'm going to have to remember this. I'm going to go GTA up on these streets in my car when I'm driving 45 in 55 (as the truck was doing according to the guy that took the video) then when they go to pass me I'll ram that dude off the road...then slam on my brakes and wreck the dude behind me, then put it in reverse and back him over, then drive off whistling Dixie. I wonder how many biker kills I could rack up during Biketoberfest? ...and it'd be perfectly justified, because they tried to pass me while I was doing 10 under on a 2 lane road.  

[TriumphTiger1050]

Fuck me, I'm going to have to remember this. I'm going to go GTA up on these streets in my car when I'm driving 45 in 55 (as the truck was doing according to the guy that took the video) then when they go to pass me I'll ram that dude off the road...then slam on my brakes and wreck the dude behind me, then put it in reverse and back him over, then drive off whistling Dixie. I wonder how many biker kills I could rack up during Biketoberfest? ...and it'd be perfectly justified, because they tried to pass me while I was doing 10 under on a 2 lane road.  

Hope you don't have a problem whistling Dixie!

[TriumphTiger1050]

I am here to clear the issue........I spoke with the Ky solicitor or district attorney for you folks that don't know what a solicitor is!  

He stated to me that the truck driver was correct by attempting to block the rider and the rider bears all liability for any damages!  In his words, don't screw with good ole boys from Kentucky!

Take it for what it is worth!  I say burn the witches!

[falconati]

In many states, crossing on a double yellow is allowable if you use prudent/cautious measures.  The law can look upon the lines as a 'recommendation not to pass,' instead of forbidding it.

[county]

He stated to me that the truck driver was correct by attempting to block the rider ...

If the police won't do their jobs it is up to the citizens.  Sad but true.

[TriumphTiger1050]

Those damn solicitors!  Can never be trusted!  Burn the witches!

[Justin]

Well, if you ride a few more years, you'll STILL appreciate having god's own motor between your legs... but you'll also realize there's more to a great ride than just going fast. You may even realize how shitty 'busas and 'birds and their ilk are when it comes to true sport riding and discover that a slower, more dedicated sportbike is infinitely more engaging in the twisties than an overweight pig.

I don't think I'll ever have the balls to beat the hell out of my 1100xx the way I beat my CB1 or SVS. And, even if I do, I'll quickly remember how much better my CB or SV was as a sportbike. Faster, it may be, but the Blackbird is not a sportbike and simply can't reward good riding the way a sportier motorcycle will. Not that I'm a great rider, but on a good sportbike, I definitely get the feedback to know when things are going right and when I'm nipping at the edge.....

I'd rather feel great sliding the rear wheel around a turn, than waiting till after the turn to twist the throttle like a retarded monkey.

High speedometer readings are fine, but the reality is, you can push a bike HARD at 30mph (sliding the tires, etc)... and you can pussyfoot a bike at 160mph (straight line, no challenge there). I think anybody who really loves riding would rather be pushing themselves (if not the bike) hard at 30.... Of course there's douchebags out there who can't wait to talk about how fast they went, as though there's some skill involved in twisting the throttle or something.

Hey, if you wanna go fast, just buy a ticket on a 747. 400mph, baby! Go first class and you can be sipping champagne at the same time! Way faster than a busa!  

Yeah, if I ride a few more years.. I keep telling myself that. So far I have not outgrown my need for speed are hundred k's of riding. And I do realize there is a lot more than speed to a great ride. And I don't ride like a hoologan every time I ride. Sometimes I chill and just enjoy the scenery. And I wasn't referring to just top end speed, I was referring to the type of riding in the video, a good fast and fun pace in the twisties. Sure I know the Busa isn't the best bike for this, but it is the best compromise that allows close to full on sport-bike handling in the twisties (I mean it is after all still a sport bike) yet can carry me 1000 miles a day in close to sport-tourer comfort. And I take it you have not ridden a Gen2 busa? Sure, it's not a true "race" bike, but it is still a sport bike, and handles like one - it's not just the straight line rocket most people think it is; and it's way ahead of the XX in the handling dept with it's fully adjustable suspensions and other improvements.

And on that note, I also enjoy riding a bigger heavier bike fast in the twisties than  lighter race replica bikea. I would not call them "engaging" at all, I find them more "boring" in the twisties. It is almost as if they are too easy to ride fast. And there have been many times I've slid the rear wheel on my XX previously, and on the Busa - so not sure how that correlates? Of course I've ridden an SV650 before, and that bike would slide it's rear wheel out all the time.

Anyway, I think you missed my point, I was referring to the riding in the video. A good fun pace on twistie roads with the occasional cager pass. I ride like that all the time, and do not see a problem with it. The things I would have done differently; not flying up behind the truck and passing. I prefer to make sure they know I am there before passing. I also would have slowed to the speed limit when I passed that church with the cars parked on the road; as I always do when I approach populated areas. IMO, you can ride at a fast and fun pace, and do it safely. Bottom line, the guy in the truck was an angry drunk that almost killed someone. Riding over the speed limit and double yellow passes do not even compare to that in the slightest (well maybe a blind pass, which this wasn't).

[Busa@11K]

Bad BIke driver started the road rage by endangering all by passing on a double yellow.

Bikers Fault that gives us all bad names.  Truck is not excused bit bike made the first dumb move.  This is Kentucky, soooooooooo  

  ... ya, passing on a double yellow with a clear, long view ahead with no on coming traffic really put that fukcin' hillbilly in danger.    You must be trolling? ... better look at the video again.  

Look at the time between 4:20 and 4:25 and tell me who's the real danger on the road.  Dumb ass hillbilly could have killed that guy on the bike coming the other way.  Dumb ass hillbilly was over the double yellow line over hills and round corners for most of the time the video was running.  

[Busa@11K]

I am here to clear the issue........I spoke with the Ky solicitor or district attorney for you folks that don't know what a solicitor is!  

He stated to me that the truck driver was correct by attempting to block the rider and the rider bears all liability for any damages!  In his words, don't screw with good ole boys from Kentucky!

Are you serious? ... that district attorney must watch way too much NASCAR.

[Busa@11K]

Anyway, I think you missed my point, I was referring to the riding in the video. A good fun pace on twistie roads with the occasional cager pass. I ride like that all the time, and do not see a problem with it. The things I would have done differently; not flying up behind the truck and passing. I prefer to make sure they know I am there before passing.

The drunk hillbilly in the truck obviously knew the bikes were behind him as he moved over with his aggressive blocking attempt with good timing on the guy who passed him.  I could just imagine what the enraged truck driver would have tried to do if the 2nd bike tired to pass him.

[Justin]

The drunk hillbilly in the truck obviously knew the bikes were behind him as he moved over with his aggressive blocking attempt good timing on the guy who passed him.  I could just imagine what the enraged truck driver would have tried to do if the 2nd bike tired to pass him.

Yeah, in that case he obviously knew if he tried to block him/run him off the road like that - I'm just saying as a general rule of thumb, I prefer to pass after I know the driver is aware of my presence, I prefer to not startle people. I try to not fly up on people at a much higher rate of speed and blast by.

[scarecrow]

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Some retards ...

Priceless.

[Jes_VFR]

I haven't looked at the video for several days so hopefully I'm recalling it correctly.  The driver brought out the iron but never advanced more than a step or two towards one of the riders.  I don't believe he was demonstrating very much effort to hurt one so using deadly force would not have been justified here.  The rider had all the chance in the world to retreat which would necessitate the need for DF.  Granted, you do not have to retreat forever before you defend yourself but blazing away on someone brandishing an iron for a few seconds will not suffice.  

First I never said that someone should have put a round (or three) into him just for getting out of his truck and brandishing an iron.
But there is the little matter of the previous attempt on the riders life, so displaying your weapon would not be a bad idea.
Showing the gun in plain sight when this wacko has his iron at the ready is not a dumb move, its a defusing move.
Then your not rushing to grab for it, cock it and bring it bear on him if he suddenly decides to rush you waving that iron. You know that and so does he.


Second IIRC both riders had their helmets off, by the time the goon comes back to his PU with his iron in his hand. I would not trust a drunk asshat with a tire iron to keep his distance as I buckle my helmet back up.
Personally, I don't carry, so I count on my karate as my defense. Seeing that drunk hillbilly pull out his tire iron, would have brought a smile to my face.
Empty hands vs club, is one of my favorite Kenpo Categories and all the extended techniques are very painful (as well as debilitating).

[Busa@11K]

I haven't looked at the video for several days so hopefully I'm recalling it correctly.  The driver brought out the iron but never advanced more than a step or two towards one of the riders.  I don't believe he was demonstrating very much effort to hurt one so using deadly force would not have been justified here.  The rider had all the chance in the world to retreat which would necessitate the need for DF.  Granted, you do not have to retreat forever before you defend yourself but blazing away on someone brandishing an iron for a few seconds will not suffice.  

The fact is the stupid hillbilly put himself 100% into this situation.  If he would have just ignored the bikes and let them pass nothing would ever have come from this whole situation.  Now the moron is facing some serious charges ... bet he's having some second thoughts about his "heroic" move.

Another fact is the guy passed him when it was totally clear and plenty of visibility - there was no danger for anyone involved if the hillbilly would have stayed in his lane and just let it happen.   Sure the bike passed on a double yellow, sure he was probably speeding ... but the public shouldn't go "Rambo" on others on the road because they break traffic law.  They should instead report the law breaking to the police and let them handle it.

The hillbilly is lucky he didn't get shot - he's lucky he didn't run into some serious gun packers.  If he did the same tire iron move to others that were packing he could have been shot and killed if he would have made any advancement towards them with a tire iron.  I know if someone with any kind of weapon in their hand even starts moving towards an armed police officer, he's gonna get some lead poisoning pronto ... the exact thing a police officer is trained to do.  Why should it be any different for an armed citizen if he thinks his life is in danger.

[Formerly Known as Bigfoot]

First I never said that someone should have put a round (or three) into him just for getting out of his truck and brandishing an iron.
But there is the little matter of the previous attempt on the riders life, so displaying your weapon would not be a bad idea.
Showing the gun in plain sight when this wacko has his iron at the ready is not a dumb move, its a defusing move.
Then your not rushing to grab for it, cock it and bring it bear on him if he suddenly decides to rush you waving that iron. You know that and so does he.


Second IIRC both riders had their helmets off, by the time the goon comes back to his PU with his iron in his hand. I would not trust a drunk asshat with a tire iron to keep his distance as I buckle my helmet back up.
Personally, I don't carry, so I count on my karate as my defense. Seeing that drunk hillbilly pull out his tire iron, would have brought a smile to my face.
Empty hands vs club, is one of my favorite Kenpo Categories and all the extended techniques are very painful (as well as debilitating).

You may indeed be Billy badass so I won't dispute what you may or may not be able to do against an armed individual.  But in my 30 years as a cop I saw quite a few defeated "martial arts experts" taken out by those not trained in the arts.  I am proficient in Tae Kwon Do and kickboxing am 6'5 and 260 and I know there are plenty of people who can kick my ass.  I hope you're as good as you say you are if you ever come across someone armed wanting to kick your ass.

[county]

I know if someone with any kind of weapon in their hand even starts moving towards an armed police officer, he's gonna get some lead poisoning pronto ... the exact thing a police officer is trained to do.  

Or even running away...

[The Dude]

The only thing this thread needs now is for someone to recommend learning to shoot left handed so you can shoot and ride at the same time  

It's easier to get a Throttlemeister.