Man in truck attempts to run motorcyclist off the road, on video

[Busa@11K]

I think there is, the guy attempted to run the first rider off the road and appeared to have a weapon in hand when he got out of the truck. I would say there was probable cause to be in fear for your life.

Yep ... If Billy Bob jumped out of his truck with a tire iron in front of police he would have guns drawn on him instantly ... so why not a legal CWP carrier.

Personally I would have reported the guys license number tried to keep him there till the Fuzz showed up.  

I might have missed it, but I'm assuming the cops showed up (cell phone calls being made were probably to 911), and that's when they discovered Billy Bob was intoxicated.

[Busa@11K]

yea, it is hard for me to really decide what to think? sure, the guy is a jerk, but atempted murder?? the consensus here is that it was OK for the bike to cross the double yellow, but not the truck, are we not all the same???

Guy in the truck clearly made a move to try and run the bike off the road while he was making the pass.  Doesn't matter if the biker was crossing a double yellow line or not ... it doesn't give the moron in the truck the right to try and kill the guy.  There are laws against such behavior ... for obvious reasons.

BTW - Go to YouTube to read some of the comments there ... more entertainment!  

[Redbandit14]

 
 agreed . Crossing a DY or not there is no justification whatsoever for what the guy in the pickup did.

If he has a problem with motorcycles on that road he should be calling the cops. Enough complaints and they'll be there patrolling.

[919]

Yep ... If Billy Bob jumped out of his truck with a tire iron in front of police he would have guns drawn on him instantly ... so why not a legal CWP carrier.

if you are truly asking why not....  A police officer on a traffic stop who is confronted by a man with a tire iron would most likely draw his weapon because the only reasonable explanation is that this man means to do the officer harm.  In a traffic stop situation the person being stopped should hopefully not be concerned with the officer doing them physical harm.  (not saying it has never happened all you googlers).

If a same man is stopped in traffic and confronted by 2 civilians he would be brandishing the tire iron to protect himself because who knows what these guys want to do to him.  Pulling a firearm at that time would be a reaffirmation that he was right to grab that tire iron, "that guy has a gun!!!"  

Very different scenario entirely.  That is not to say I am against carrying a concealed weapon, I am licensed to carry in my state.  In this scenario putting myself in the video posters shoes I would not have felt threatened enough to pull my weapon.  

Modified to add:  if I was carrying my gun at all it would have prompted me to completely avoid the situation and put as much distance between me and the truck driver as possible.   Confrontations are a bad idea when you are carrying a gun.  

[county]

Guy in the truck clearly made a move to try and run the bike off the road while he was making the pass.

No, there is no clearly to it.  The guy in the truck could have been distracted or trying to block the pass.

This guy may be in trouble for being drunk or driving a stolen truck or something but the most he will get out of that move is reckless driving, IMO.

[TBone]

No, there is no clearly to it.  The guy in the truck could have been distracted or trying to block the pass.

This ain't NASCAR. I don't think you have a legal right to do that.

[DFH]

No, there is no clearly to it.  The guy in the truck could have been distracted or trying to block the pass.

This guy may be in trouble for being drunk or driving a stolen truck or something but the most he will get out of that move is reckless driving, IMO.

Whoa there big boy... are you actually saying that it is legal in your patch of the planet for one road user, after making an arbitrary decision that he/she does not personally approve of another road users manoeuvre, to use their vehicle to physically block the path of or intimidate the other road user? Are the consequences of such a policy not vividly apparent?

If indeed it is legal then its not rednecks in red pickups we should worry about, its the rednecks in the legislature that pass such laws (& the police that choose to enforce them) that's the #1 concern.

[Busa@11K]

If a same man is stopped in traffic and confronted by 2 civilians he would be brandishing the tire iron to protect himself because who knows what these guys want to do to him.  Pulling a firearm at that time would be a reaffirmation that he was right to grab that tire iron, "that guy has a gun!!!"  

Don't want to give the impression that I would have drawn on the guy as soon as he got out of the truck with the tire iron .... BUT, if he would have started approaching with it in a manner that looked like he could attack then he'd have a gun in his face.  And if he didn't stop and back off, then one would have to assume he was going to do you bodily harm.  This then becomes the time to shot or not to protect yourself, and if that situation did occur then it would most likely be a justified self defense shooting.  This is exactly how the situation would be handled by a police officer, except the officer would have most likely drawn on him as soon as he saw the tire iron in his hand.

Yeah, I agree ... it's not a situation you what to find yourself in, but there is a reason people can legally carry weapons, and that's to protect themselves from people who what to do you harm.

On a side note .... the hillbilly was hell bent to confront these bikers.  If he wasn't, he wouldn't have stopped at the intersection to confront them - and he wouldn't have tried to keep up with the first bike and driving like a manic.  He could have simply written down their license plate numbers, moved on and called 911.  But he was obviously going to try and "set those bikers straight".

[black hills]

while the guy was an ass, I don't see it as an attempt to run the bike off the road. I think it was more of a kep them from passing move with poor timing? BUt what do I know?? as far as a weapon I would suggest anyone that carries and thinks you could have legalled pulled a gun on the guy when he got out of the truck needs to take a handgun course throuhg your local PD or sherriff dept.. or at least do a little research
The riders appeared as willing to confront the driver as he was to confront them, so while he "started it" they were no better at the end. May have ended differnetly if he had not came out with the pipe? Not defending him, just sayin

[county]

This ain't NASCAR. I don't think you have a legal right to do that.

No shit.  Who said it was legal?

[UFO]

 

[Busa@11K]

while the guy was an ass, I don't see it as an attempt to run the bike off the road. I think it was more of a kep them from passing move with poor timing? BUt what do I know??

Doesn't matter ... it's still using the vehicle with aggression and is illegal to do.

as far as a weapon I would suggest anyone that carries and thinks you could have legalled pulled a gun on the guy when he got out of the truck needs to take a handgun course throuhg your local PD or sherriff dept.. or at least do a little research

The guy had a frickin' tire iron in his hand - and you think a gun couldn't be legally pulled on this clown?  Once someone has a weapon in their hand, you have no idea what their next move might be.  Even though he didn't come running out of the truck with it raised and ready to charge and attack, it's still a potential threat and if someone pulled a gun on him and held him for the cops I doubt they would be charged.  If they pulled a gun and tried to make him drop it or hold him and he charged, then shooting would be justified.  People who have a gun drawn on them for any reason better think twice about making any aggressive moves.

The riders appeared as willing to confront the driver as he was to confront them, so while he "started it" they were no better at the end. May have ended differently if he had not came out with the pipe? Not defending him, just sayin

Humm .... I wonder why?  

[boogeyman]

Was anybody else waiting for that atv to fall off the back of the truck, man that would have been awesome!

I was hoping it wouldn't because the guy doing the filming would have to deal with it.  

No way the guy can claim he wasn't trying to hit the motorcyclist because at the end he rolled up on him again and the motorcyclist had to move his bike.

No opportunity for bb deployment since following motorcyclist would have been in danger.

I can't believe he was calling him "brother" the whole time. Good job on the motorcyclist's part for not letting expletives fly.

[psyco1]

http://www.assfaultjunkies.com/showthread.php?12459-KY-10-22-Riders-WARNING&p=302306#post302306

posted by the guy nearly run off the road
We are working with authorities to legally bring justice to this incident.I'm not going into any details sorry.I can tell you the pass is of no interest to them.

[falconati]

The way that guy was trying to kill the motorcyclist, I'd swear he was a cop!

[Jet Jock]

I'm sure the guy was breathalyzed when the police showed up. First thing I thought as I viewed the video was that he'd been drinking.

He's got an ATV in the pickup. Don't need to check if he's been drinking. It's dead certain he's drunk.  

[falcofred]

He's got an ATV in the pickup. Don't need to check if he's been drinking. It's dead certain he's drunk.  

4 wheelers are the Harleys of off road  

[bassjones]

My thoughts exactly.

A couple of other thoughts.

1. Why keep following a vehicle that is obviously willing and capable of killing you?
2. Why confront the driver after it is obvious the person is irrational and dangerous?
3. Why would you then report the situation when your only evidence also will very likely prove you have yourself committed traffic violations?

1. He was obviously riding with the first rider and the pickup driver was being very aggressive.  He also had the video camera rolling and could have captured any further attempts by the p/u driver to harm/kill his friend
2. To get him out of the truck and call the police - as they did.
3. DY pass with plenty of room for that powerful of a vehicle and the p/u driver going that slowly is not that big of a deal in most states. This has been confirmed by the rider who has updated the ongoing situation and stated that the DY pass isn't an issue with the prosecution, nor was it for the officers.

Hopefully, they make an example of shit stain hilljack and the prosecutor also comes out with a strongly worded PSA that aggressive driving towards motorcycles will be considered attempted murder and prosecuted as such.

[black hills]

If he was trying to kill the guy why didn't he just run over him when he stopped

[Bounce]

He started to.