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« Reply #100 on: May 28, 2011, 08:46:15 AM »


The way that guy was trying to kill the motorcyclist, I'd swear he was a cop!



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« Reply #101 on: May 28, 2011, 10:21:39 AM »


How fast was everyone going?

Regardless, the truck crossed the center line, even in blind corners.


What's the background on this road? Is this one of those roads where the locals are so fed up with the Ricky Racers they fantasize about running them over?
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« Reply #102 on: May 28, 2011, 10:32:17 AM »

What's the background on this road? Is this one of those roads where the locals are so fed up with the Ricky Racers they fantasize about running them over?


Apparently he's all pissed off at motorcyclists.  You can hear him going off about "crotch rockets" when he's arguing with the riders.
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« Reply #103 on: May 28, 2011, 11:35:00 AM »




What's the background on this road? Is this one of those roads where the locals are so fed up with the Ricky Racers they fantasize about running them over?


There's a local who piped up and talks about how that's not the case at all in a nice long and detailed post.  You can go back and find it if you like.
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« Reply #104 on: May 28, 2011, 12:14:39 PM »

Just asking. So many times only one side of the story gets told. I don't automatically go with the lynch mob. Recently there was a bit of road rage near where I live. As usual the media did a very sorry job of getting the facts and the victim of the road rage was presented as totally innocent of any wrong doing. Luckily the police are far more thorough and they found some witnesses who told how the victim had actually provoked the incident. Both assholes are sitting in jail now. By the way, you don't buy a crotch rocket for nice peaceful rides.
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« Reply #105 on: May 28, 2011, 02:14:38 PM »


 By the way, you don't buy a crotch rocket for nice peaceful rides.


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« Reply #106 on: May 28, 2011, 02:25:39 PM »

By the way, you don't buy a crotch rocket for nice peaceful rides.


Speak for yourself. Not everyone is looking to turn every road into a private racetrack. My vehicle is just as capable of being operated legally as any Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, Typhoon, SSR, Corvette... Or Miata (for Johnny Monsoon and Snowbird    Razz ).

Shit, I commute to work, leisurely, 5 miles in a straight line, on my bike with 4.67 lbs/hp (fully loaded with rider). It's the rider, not the bike, not the road.

The only unique thing about commuting on a bike like that is the fact that when I decide to get out of trouble, when I feel I need to get away, I can turn the bike into a virtual teleportation device and be a hundred yards away and into triple digits within a couple seconds. And I don't think well-reasoned actions over the course of 3 seconds in during a tense situation really deserves to get you locked away... but then, I've found most cops and judges don't think that way either. It is a lot of power though and with power comes responsibility. Some manage it better than others.
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« Reply #107 on: May 28, 2011, 02:42:00 PM »




Speak for yourself. Not everyone is looking to turn every road into a private racetrack. My vehicle is just as capable of being operated legally as any Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, Typhoon, SSR, Corvette... Or Miata (for Johnny Monsoon and Snowbird    Razz ).

Shit, I commute to work, leisurely, 5 miles in a straight line, on my bike with 4.67 lbs/hp (fully loaded with rider). It's the rider, not the bike, not the road.


but, I thought this was the home of triple digit sight seeing Headscratch
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« Reply #108 on: May 28, 2011, 02:45:06 PM »




but, I thought this was the home of triple digit sight seeing Headscratch


Well when you see me doing that, you can blame me for it... but don't blame the bike.    Wink


You see, sometimes I operate it responsibly.    Smile
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« Reply #109 on: May 28, 2011, 06:16:20 PM »




but, I thought this was the home of triple digit sight seeing Headscratch



It is, however we get the occasional tourist.
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« Reply #110 on: May 28, 2011, 06:35:59 PM »




Speak for yourself. Not everyone is looking to turn every road into a private racetrack. My vehicle is just as capable of being operated legally as any Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, Typhoon, SSR, Corvette... Or Miata (for Johnny Monsoon and Snowbird    Razz ).

Shit, I commute to work, leisurely, 5 miles in a straight line, on my bike with 4.67 lbs/hp (fully loaded with rider). It's the rider, not the bike, not the road.

The only unique thing about commuting on a bike like that is the fact that when I decide to get out of trouble, when I feel I need to get away, I can turn the bike into a virtual teleportation device and be a hundred yards away and into triple digits within a couple seconds. And I don't think well-reasoned actions over the course of 3 seconds in during a tense situation really deserves to get you locked away... but then, I've found most cops and judges don't think that way either. It is a lot of power though and with power comes responsibility. Some manage it better than others.


so you never go over the speed limit when riding, other than the occasional evasive maneuver?
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« Reply #111 on: May 28, 2011, 08:10:52 PM »




What goes around comes around.


I don;t use it to try to run folks off the road for heavens sake. Simply that it's size has some advantages.  For example when I come up on a smaller vehicle camping in the left lane on the interstate the odds they'll yield the right-of-way and move to the right are much higher than if I'm on my bike or in a car. And yes, what comes around goes around. When something larger wants the piece of realistate I'm occupying I tend to let them have it.

Oh, and as to all the redneck/drunk/meth pickup driver comments in this thread. Humph... Just what I would expect from a bunch of sunday riding crotch rocket ricky racer city boy wanna be's. LOL
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« Reply #112 on: May 28, 2011, 08:31:43 PM »


so you never go over the speed limit when riding, other than the occasional evasive maneuver?


I never said that. But the way I ride sometimes, and the reason I bought a particular bike are two different things.

I didn't buy a Blackbird so I can go speeding around all the time at the drop of a hat. If I'd purchased a 600SS, it also wouldn't be so I could speed around all the time. Sure, I do that from time to time, but that doesn't mean it's the primary reason for owning such a machine. And it doesn't mean I bought it for that purpose.

Hell, I've ridden my SV650S faster than my Blackbird has gone to date. There's a time and a place for such hooliganism, but that shouldn't be used to obfuscate the plenty of other reasons for owning such a bike. Sportbikes, especially the good ones, can be a lot more than just speed/thrill machines.

The SV was a commuter, a learning bike, a tourer. The BB is a commuter, a 2-up intro bike for interested pillions, a great rock-solid will-last-forever motor, and a little more touring oriented. Basically it's cheap wheels that does everything pretty well and that I hope to get another 70,000 trouble-free miles out of. It's a lot more than just a 180mph speedbike... and anybody who actually RIDES would recognize those characteristics immediately.

Actually, now that I mention it, to be perfectly honest, the Blackbird is a crappy sportbike (due to its weight, linked brakes, and mediocre suspension), a bad tourer (due to ergos), a lousy commuter (due to gas mileage and weight), and a slightly uncomfortable machine for 2-up riding. However, it's a pretty impressive combination of a lot different types of bikes and does pretty well as a complete package. Believe me, if I was just looking to go fast, you would be able to take one look at my bike and KNOW that's what I was planning to do. But even most supersports tend to keep some of their creature-comforts and conveniences they came with off the dealership lot. Most bikes are amazingly flexible in the missions they can carry out with ease. They're not the one-trick ponies that soccer moms and 14 year-old boys imagine them to be.
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« Reply #113 on: May 28, 2011, 08:44:03 PM »


After watching that mess, I'm shocked of one thing only. When truck driver exited vehicle with a weapon in hand, why didn't the rider put a cap in his ass? Dummy.  
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See up on some of the back roads, that is exactly what would have happened.
Try to run a rider off the road, then come out of the truck with a iron at the next stop?
I don't carry or own a gun, so I'd just have to go black belt on his ass, but I ride with lot of folks that do carry and they wouldn't have hesitated to defend themselves.



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« Reply #114 on: May 28, 2011, 09:21:12 PM »




I never said that. But the way I ride sometimes, and the reason I bought a particular bike are two different things.

I didn't buy a Blackbird so I can go speeding around all the time at the drop of a hat. If I'd purchased a 600SS, it also wouldn't be so I could speed around all the time. Sure, I do that from time to time, but that doesn't mean it's the primary reason for owning such a machine. And it doesn't mean I bought it for that purpose.

Hell, I've ridden my SV650S faster than my Blackbird has gone to date. There's a time and a place for such hooliganism, but that shouldn't be used to obfuscate the plenty of other reasons for owning such a bike. Sportbikes, especially the good ones, can be a lot more than just speed/thrill machines.

The SV was a commuter, a learning bike, a tourer. The BB is a commuter, a 2-up intro bike for interested pillions, a great rock-solid will-last-forever motor, and a little more touring oriented. Basically it's cheap wheels that does everything pretty well and that I hope to get another 70,000 trouble-free miles out of. It's a lot more than just a 180mph speedbike... and anybody who actually RIDES would recognize those characteristics immediately.

Actually, now that I mention it, to be perfectly honest, the Blackbird is a crappy sportbike (due to its weight, linked brakes, and mediocre suspension), a bad tourer (due to ergos), a lousy commuter (due to gas mileage and weight), and a slightly uncomfortable machine for 2-up riding. However, it's a pretty impressive combination of a lot different types of bikes and does pretty well as a complete package. Believe me, if I was just looking to go fast, you would be able to take one look at my bike and KNOW that's what I was planning to do. But even most supersports tend to keep some of their creature-comforts and conveniences they came with off the dealership lot. Most bikes are amazingly flexible in the missions they can carry out with ease. They're not the one-trick ponies that soccer moms and 14 year-old boys imagine them to be.


OK, was just curious for clarification - as I personally have sport bike/crotch rocket/bullet-bike/murdercycle because I like to ride fast, and I do. I regularly make (clean) passes on double yellow lines. Sure, is it legal, that's debatable, butI don't think anyone should try to kill me for it. The guy in that vid that was posted was obviously trying trying to block him, or run him off the road. Attempted murder trumps a traffic violation.
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« Reply #115 on: May 28, 2011, 09:52:01 PM »

Bad BIke driver started the road rage by endangering all by passing on a double yellow.

Bikers Fault that gives us all bad names.  Truck is not excused bit bike made the first dumb move.  This is Kentucky, soooooooooo
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« Reply #116 on: May 28, 2011, 09:57:53 PM »

The only thing this thread needs now is for someone to recommend learning to shoot left handed so you can shoot and ride at the same time  Bigsmile
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« Reply #117 on: May 28, 2011, 11:29:11 PM »

OK, was just curious for clarification - as I personally have sport bike/crotch rocket/bullet-bike/murdercycle because I like to ride fast, and I do. I regularly make (clean) passes on double yellow lines. Sure, is it legal, that's debatable, butI don't think anyone should try to kill me for it. The guy in that vid that was posted was obviously trying trying to block him, or run him off the road. Attempted murder trumps a traffic violation.


Well, if you ride a few more years, you'll STILL appreciate having god's own motor between your legs... but you'll also realize there's more to a great ride than just going fast. You may even realize how shitty 'busas and 'birds and their ilk are when it comes to true sport riding and discover that a slower, more dedicated sportbike is infinitely more engaging in the twisties than an overweight pig.

I don't think I'll ever have the balls to beat the hell out of my 1100xx the way I beat my CB1 or SVS. And, even if I do, I'll quickly remember how much better my CB or SV was as a sportbike. Faster, it may be, but the Blackbird is not a sportbike and simply can't reward good riding the way a sportier motorcycle will. Not that I'm a great rider, but on a good sportbike, I definitely get the feedback to know when things are going right and when I'm nipping at the edge.....

I'd rather feel great sliding the rear wheel around a turn, than waiting till after the turn to twist the throttle like a retarded monkey.

High speedometer readings are fine, but the reality is, you can push a bike HARD at 30mph (sliding the tires, etc)... and you can pussyfoot a bike at 160mph (straight line, no challenge there). I think anybody who really loves riding would rather be pushing themselves (if not the bike) hard at 30.... Of course there's douchebags out there who can't wait to talk about how fast they went, as though there's some skill involved in twisting the throttle or something.

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« Reply #118 on: May 29, 2011, 03:36:00 AM »




See up on some of the back roads, that is exactly what would have happened.
Try to run a rider off the road, then come out of the truck with a iron at the next stop?
I don't carry or own a gun, so I'd just have to go black belt on his ass, but I ride with lot of folks that do carry and they wouldn't have hesitated to defend themselves.







I haven't looked at the video for several days so hopefully I'm recalling it correctly.  The driver brought out the iron but never advanced more than a step or two towards one of the riders.  I don't believe he was demonstrating very much effort to hurt one so using deadly force would not have been justified here.  The rider had all the chance in the world to retreat which would necessitate the need for DF.  Granted, you do not have to retreat forever before you defend yourself but blazing away on someone brandishing an iron for a few seconds will not suffice.  
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« Reply #119 on: May 29, 2011, 04:21:49 AM »


Bad BIke driver started the road rage by endangering all by passing on a double yellow.

Bikers Fault that gives us all bad names.  Truck is not excused bit bike made the first dumb move.  This is Kentucky, soooooooooo


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