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« on: June 15, 2011, 01:23:21 PM »

So my wife and I just got back from a trip down to WV/VA area and back, only about 250 miles per day.  The ride home was tiring.  The primary complaint with my SV is wind fatigue, and leg room was making my knee/hip joints uncomfortable.

During the ride, I got to thinking about Aprilia Futuras for some reason.  When I got home I checked on advertised prices both for SV1000s' similar to mine, and Futuras.  It looks like I could sell my SV, and sell the Givi Stuff, handlebar kit, etc for about the same as a nice Futura would cost.  I have an 1125cr as my sportbike/hooligan/trackday bike, and perhaps something a little better for touring might be nice? Would this be worth it?

Would the Futura address my comfort issues? Is it better on the highway? Is the wind smooth/quiet?


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2005 SV1000s:

Pros:
-reliable, easy to find parts
-I already have it
-fun to ride around locally
-My wife somehow finds it comfortable enough (she's 5' 105lbs)
-Light
-simple to work on
-Has handlebar conversion, and Givi hard luggage

cons:
-noisy wind
-sucks on highway
-Legs cramped
-Can't seem to pile on the miles on trips that well (how much is the bike vs. my own endurance?)



2001-2003 Aprilia Futura

Pros:
-Looks awesome
-Rotax twin
-Comfortable
-Stock matching hard luggage
-Gauges look awesome at night
-better wind management?
-Better compliment to my Buell 1125CR
-Italian exotica

cons:
-older than SV
-Parts/accessories harder to find
-Topcase/rack not easily available
-Harder to work on, more little quirks/bugs
-hard to find for sale locally to test ride with the wife
-Italian exotica



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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 01:26:37 PM »



Would the Futura address my comfort issues? Is it better on the highway? Is the wind smooth/quiet?

What say you, STN?



Yes. Yes. I do believe so. Also the Futura has the BEST stock seat of any ST bike.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 01:57:05 PM »

The wind noise is probably similar, but the ergos on the Futura are better. Search for a peg lowering kit first - if you can lower those an inch or so, with your raised bars the Futura probably isn't going to be much different. What it will do is give you hellofalot better looking/functioning bags
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 02:31:53 PM »

I know someone who picked up a Futura not to long ago. He also has a 2006 VFR. After about six months on the Futura he sold the VFR. Not sure what that says to you but to me it says it will be one hell of a better ST bike then your SV1000S.  Bigsmile
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 02:39:00 PM »

My brother-in-law has had a Futura for years.
Best seat ever to appear on a motorcycle.  Ever.  It's like a wave runner seat. Bigsmile
Bike has an engine that *gasp* you can feel from time to time.  Nothing like riding a motorcycle and actually feeling like you are riding a motorcycle.
Cockpit is plenty large to hang GPS, microwave, Ham radio, etc.
Back when the magazines were still testing this bike it always managed to be the sleeper in whatever current group of latest sport-tourers they were testing it against.
Count on horrible buffeting which the Laminar Lip cures with extreme ugliness. Smile  
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 03:50:40 PM »

My brother in law jumped on my Futura two weekends ago.  He's owned lots of bikes, and ridden many more.  He just sold his second ZG1000 for a K1200LT, and his comment to me was "Man, the ergonomics on this bike are perfect!"

The Futura is an awesome bike.  Quick, nimble, stable, comfortable and very sexy.  A double bubble/laminar lip or homegrown alternative will help alot with wind protection up high.  Down low wind protection is pretty good stock.  And the seat is everything everyone says it is, if not more.

It's one big knock is the availability of parts and their cost.  Thankfully, there's pretty much a workaround for almost anything you would come up against as long as you don't mind going away from stock.

For me, it's the best ST bike, bar none, and quite possibly the best bike yet made.  It will munch miles, carve canyons, bomb the track and be the center of discussion for most motorcycle riders out there because generally, they don't know what it is.  

Of course, I'm a Futura owner, so take that as you will.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 04:10:33 PM »

Thanks for all the responses--

Any thoughts on VFR800 and Sprint ST in this game?  I hate to open a can-o-worms, but all these great bikes fall in a similar used price range of between $4-5k.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 04:16:59 PM »


-Italian exotica


How is this on the con list!?
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 04:21:19 PM »

Before we scare him off with parts availability issues, head over to af1racing.com and hit the Futura section.
The Rotax engine has some clutch slave issues which are generally fixed with a quick bleed of the clutch system.
Other than that, you're good.
Anything the bike may need is available from af.
As for cost, what does a typical OEM Honda oil filter cost these days?  $20.00 or something?? Shrug
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 04:26:07 PM »

The same thing that stopped the Futura from selling is the same thing that keeps me away - the looks. I'll never understand what in hell Aprilia was thinking...
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 04:29:35 PM »


"-Italian exotica"

How is this on the con list!?


All that Italian "character" ie: maintenance bugs/quirks.  Shrug



The same thing that stopped the Futura from selling is the same thing that keeps me away - the looks. I'll never understand what in hell Aprilia was thinking...


I think this bike looks awesome, and the design is still fresh 10 years later; one of the best looking ST bikes out there IMO.  I think that guages are 1980's futurism coolness.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 04:40:01 PM »


Thanks for all the responses--

Any thoughts on VFR800 and Sprint ST in this game?  I hate to open a can-o-worms, but all these great bikes fall in a similar used price range of between $4-5k.


Consider it officially open.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 04:50:33 PM »




All that Italian "character" ie: maintenance bugs/quirks.  Shrug



So, you will be pleasantly surprised with the Futura then.  It's actually a pretty low maintenance bike.  Not the typical 'italian' maintenance hole.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 04:51:42 PM »



So, you will be pleasantly surprised with the Futura then.  It's actually a pretty low maintenance bike.  Not the typical 'italian' maintenance hole.

Excellent to hear that.

Can you comment on engine smoothness?  The twin in my SV feels a bit noisy/crude  compared to the twin in an sv650... which is smooth and burbley.   The rotax in my 1125 sounds like a can full of nuts and bolts at idle, but at operating speeds 4000rpm+ it is much smoother and winds up like no other twin.  In contrast, the triumph 1050 is soo smooth that there is no character at all.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 08:27:52 PM »

I just bought one, so I can give you my impressions this Saturday.
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 11:19:15 PM »

Every time I see a Futura, I think it should be murdered out in flat black, and that the panniers should be conceal two Javelin missiles.   Inlove
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 03:06:08 AM »

Very nearly bought a Futura recently. Unfortunately the '04 Futura was actually an '01 (in Germany the 'year' is the year of first registration, not build, something to look out for) + had no panniers (red flag) so it wasn't worth it $$ wise.

Anyway, I did a load of research for 'gotchyas', http://www.apriliafutura.co.uk/v2/ is a great site for owning reference.

Aside from 'the usual' basically 3 important things to check/fix:

1) Plastic fuel quick release has been replaced with metal ($100 to fix).
2) Wiring mod or new rectifier (poor charging otherwise) (wiring mod is simple but rectifier is another $100).
3) If it's an '01 or '02, the ECU needs to be remapped. This should have been done by a dealer but it's something to check up on afterwards.

Otherwise it looks like a great bike, seat is awesome and the riding position was very comfy. I'm pissed it didn't work out Sad

Checkout http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/ for used, one just sold there recently at a 'stole it' price.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2011, 08:02:40 AM »

I know nothing of them.  Good looking bike.  Only thing that would scare me is the fact those Italia fangled bikes are either expensive to service if you don't wrench or when the model production end was almost 10 years ago............where do you get reliable parts?

Other than that, if you want it; buy it! Smile
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 09:15:03 AM »


I just bought one, so I can give you my impressions this Saturday.


How much did you end up getting it for?  This is another bike that interests me as much as the Sprint ST.
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2011, 10:50:41 AM »

Just over $5k, and it's a 2002 with 2,000 miles in excellent condition  Bigsmile
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