Car tires on bikes...and more...

[theshnizzle]

I can't imagine there aren't stresses introduced into the rear suspension.

Bikes have to lean to turn. Doing so on a non-round tire requires significant effort, plus is jacks up the rear end in the turn, and plops it back down coming out of a turn.

I hate the way a bike feels when the rear tire flattens out even mildly; I can't fathom introducing that shitty feeling by choice.

There are reasons bike tires have a round profile.

Thats what I was thinking watching the vid. The bike is designed to be used with a round moto tire not a square car tire. Millions and millions of R and D went into designing bikes to be used and perform in a certain way ....no?

[Giaka]

News flash, its OK for them to run car tires on the bikes and it doesn't matter what we think....

[PatM]

That video (ZX14) scared the hell out of me. The way the contact patch gets smaller when the bike leans when it should get larger scares me. He's however running a stiff, normally inflated summer tire.
I know that Darksiders usually run narrow winter tire, severely under-inflated so that the walls will flex. Being narrow and made of soft compound makes them easier to lean. Underinflated is required to maximize the contact patch when leaning.

Would I do it? No f way!

[theshnizzle]

What a waste of a perfectly good ZX-14. Seriously. As a Hayabusa owner, I personally am offended by this. And, yes, pple are free to setup thier bikes anyway they want to, as I stated in my original post. Would I do it. Nope......No friggin way...

[ianbh]

That explains it.

Not Ricky-Roadracer but do most of my riding in Arkansas, California, Oregon and the Southeast.  
Ride a DL650 now so don't need a new rear tire every 5,000-6,000 miles like I did on the FJR, back to a MC tire.  Ian, Iowa

[Giaka]

What a waste of a perfectly good ZX-14. Seriously. As a Hayabusa owner, I personally am offended by this.

Something STN is not short of, personal problems and opinions.  

[motomem]

I saw a Hayabusa with a car tire on it a few weeks ago. I don't feel the need to not use a bike tire but for commuting in this flat land and most of the riding I do - car tire would work. You should get some real good traction when your not in curves.  

[Cablebandit]

I have enough traction with a bike tire to lift the front tire of a 700 pound whale.  I don't think I need more than that in the straights.  I'll take the cornering ability of a proper motorcycle tire all day.

[Hardware]

I have enough traction with a bike tire to lift the front tire of a 700 pound whale.  I don't think I need more than that in the straights.  I'll take the cornering ability of a proper motorcycle tire all day.

 

[X1Glider]

News flash, its OK for them to run car tires on the bikes and it doesn't matter what we think....

Yes, it is ok for them to do so.

But it's also ok for me to make them feel like an idiot by calling them names like "dumbass", "loser" and "moron" when I come accross them lying in a ditch because they lost the rear end.

And when I'm done taking pictures of them pinned under their bike to post on this forum, only then will I call a wrecker to lift it off of them.  

[motomem]

Is this one of those things like wearing equipment where those who wear wish those who don't to have a crash so they can point and say "I told you so".
Or maybe hoping an engine will fail for those who change their oil every 6000 miles instead of 3000.
Why be mean spirited about it.

[X1Glider]

Is this one of those things like wearing equipment where those who wear wish those who don't to have a crash so they can point and say "I told you so".
Or maybe hoping an engine will fail for those who change their oil every 6000 miles instead of 3000.
Why be mean spirited about it.

Would never wish for anyone to have a crash.  But I do like to say " I told you so" when they've been told a hundered times.

[ReSTored]

I did 3 separate trips this summer with a friend on an FJR wearing a rear car tire.  He had no issue keeping up with everyone.  When riding behind him watching the square profile tire tip up in turns look strange, but I think the actual contact patch is virtually the same a a round profile tire and the car tire compound he uses is softer that ST tires he has used in the past.  Tire wear is 1/3 that of a normal tire.  There are pro and cons, but he's not changing back.  

[Giaka]

Would never wish for anyone to have a crash.  But I do like to say " I told you so" when they've been told a hundered times.

I think guys have been running cars tires on some of these bikes for a couple of years. How many have crashed because of it?

[Baz]

I am just really happy that the folks at the major airlines have not yet discovered this cost saving idea, and started putting car tires on their 737's!

[02Tac]

Flex?  Did you see that video?!?

 I did, and I believe there is a lot more tread on the ground than you think.

[veefer800canuck]

I am just really happy that the folks at the major airlines have not yet discovered this cost saving idea, and started putting car tires on their 737's!

But they do use Retreads.

[02Tac]

But it's also ok for me to make them feel like an idiot by calling them names like "dumbass", "loser" and "moron"  

 I bet a lot of people like you called Galileo the same things when he said the world was round.  

 Darksiding it may not be for you, but that does not make it wrong.

[CLAY]

Yes, it is ok for them to do so.

But it's also ok for me to make them feel like an idiot by calling them names like "dumbass", "loser" and "moron" when I come accross them lying in a ditch because they lost the rear end.

And when I'm done taking pictures of them pinned under their bike to post on this forum, only then will I call a wrecker to lift it off of them.  

Well, I have a feeling that if putting a car tire on some of the bigger bikes were as dangerous as many seem think there would be a backlash, doncha think?  I have a feeling if these crashes due to car tires were happening, there'd be people on those site saying "Don't do it!  I did and crashed!"  Instead we have loads of people talking about how crazy it is with no experience.  

With a GW or big bike I'd probably try it just to experiment.  For kicks I looked into it for the B12 for a test, but nothing fits.

Different strokes.  

[Justin]

I have not heard of any accidents related to darksiding. I know people who run the setup and have no complaints. The people I know of that have run the setup, keep going back for more, so it must work OK. On bikes like the Wing they say it actually increases safety as the car tires handle the load better and do better on crappy surfaces.

Like every other thread on the subject, has anyone here that has something bad to say about it ever tried it?

I think I'm going to try and put one on the Busa now, just for shits and giggles!