Pages: 1 2 [3]  All   Go Down
Print

Topic: "American Muscle Never Died, It Just Needed Handlebars" - New Victory...  (Read 8191 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Gary B.
*

Reputation 8
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: '06 Concours, '06 DR650
GPS: SE Wisconsin
Miles Typed: 638

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2012, 02:05:14 PM »

At least it ain't ugly.


It just looks like way too many others.

I agree, meh... Sleepy
Logged

I'm not lazy, I just have advanced time-management skills.
atadaskew
*

Reputation 155
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: A Vethpa and thome other thcooter
GPS: Venice Beach, California.
Miles Typed: 11824

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2012, 02:37:52 PM »

What a let down

All the hoopla and I couldn't pick it out of their current line up.

Lame.
Logged

I'm hip about time, I just gotta go.
stromgal
Lone Rangerette
*

Reputation 26
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '06, '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: BigStrom, WeeStrom
GPS: West Lake Michigan
Miles Typed: 4479

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2012, 04:12:13 PM »

It's *closer* to sporty than anything else they've made yet.  But:

Shocks are too short; lean angle is limited.

As mentioned, the 'mid-controls' are rather forward.

Low seat height with forward-ish controls means not being able to get in the right position for really railing curves.


That said, I've found the Vic engine to be highly entertaining, and at least THIS time they didn't put a beach ball on the back rim; it's a reasonable 150.  (The raised-white-letter Elites made me laugh, but they *are* radials.) With shocks and a taller seat it could be a hoot.
Logged

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.  -Douglas Adams
jeepinbanditrider
Junior Member
*

Reputation 6
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 04 FJR1300A, 79 Suzuki GS1000
GPS: MCAS MIRAMAR
Miles Typed: 1201

My Photo Gallery


Alright Meow!


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2012, 04:34:23 PM »

Should read some of the comments on the facebook page  Lol

One guy insists they are branching into another section of the cruiser market cause they didn't have a bike that had low bars and "mid controls" before  

I'm gonna go put clip ons on my FZ6 and higher rear sets so it can go into the supersport market  Rolleyes
Logged

1979 GS1000,  2007 BMW F800ST,  1997 Suzuki DR350SE
ConPilot1
Seven Pupils In My Eye
*

Reputation -1645
Offline Offline

Miles Typed: leet

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2012, 04:39:57 PM »




I'm gonna go put clip ons on my FZ6 and higher rear sets so it can go into the supersport market  Rolleyes


I'd be more impressed if you put ape hangers and fwd controls and chrome running boards on your FJR and go into the "real bike" market.
Logged

halloween over.
atadaskew
*

Reputation 155
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: A Vethpa and thome other thcooter
GPS: Venice Beach, California.
Miles Typed: 11824

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2012, 04:59:07 PM »

Harley again beat Victory to the punch by several years with their version:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/fat-bob.html#/c/overview

Fat bars, decent suspension (for a cruiser), ok riding position.  Looks better too.
Logged

I'm hip about time, I just gotta go.
Justin
*

Reputation 58
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '08
Motorcycles: 2008 Hayabusa - 2004 FJR
GPS: Sunny Colorado
Miles Typed: 6108

My Photo Gallery


Hi, I'm Phteven


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2012, 12:27:31 AM »

Oh good - Victory made another cruiser.
Logged

FAST: 2004 "Silver Bullet" FJR1300 - FASTER: 2008 Touring/Endurance Hayabusa
www.ledrider.com
Baz
*

Reputation 16
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11, '12
Motorcycles: Yamaha FJR
GPS: St. Albert, AB, Canada
Miles Typed: 8905

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2012, 01:09:49 AM »

My wife loved that name when she 1st saw it.

Fat BOB.

Fat Battery Operated Boyfriend.
Logged
TwoWhldTerror
*

Reputation 1
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 2006 Yamaha FJR
Miles Typed: 80

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2012, 10:22:42 AM »


Harley again beat Victory to the punch by several years with their version:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/fat-bob.html#/c/overview

Fat bars, decent suspension (for a cruiser), ok riding position.  Looks better too.


True...my wife is in love with the Fat Bob look and that is what she is considering as her next bike.
Logged
SSLT1KID
*

Reputation 0
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: FZ1-R6-YZ250
GPS: Antelope Valley, SoCal
Miles Typed: 39

My Photo Gallery




Ignore
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2012, 10:50:26 AM »


Looks like a bunch of fucking windmills.


Thats Tehachapi, CA
Logged
R Doug
Rain is my first name.
*

Reputation 154
Online Online

Years Contributed: '06, '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
GPS: Clemmons, NC
Miles Typed: 11700

My Photo Gallery



WWW

Ignore
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2012, 01:15:37 PM »

I'd still rather have this with a set of Hogslayers on it.  

Logged
Rincewind
*

Reputation 122
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: BMW F700GS
GPS: SEPA
Miles Typed: 13700

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2012, 08:25:14 AM »

A pic from the Judge's debut in NYC.  I liked the matte paint, but otherwise it looked like the same old Victory to me.




Harley again beat Victory to the punch by several years with their version:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/fat-bob.html#/c/overview

Fat bars, decent suspension (for a cruiser), ok riding position.  Looks better too.


Maybe so, but I believe the Vic have more punch in the terms of torque.

Logged
atadaskew
*

Reputation 155
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: A Vethpa and thome other thcooter
GPS: Venice Beach, California.
Miles Typed: 11824

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2012, 02:04:04 PM »



Maybe so, but I believe the Vic have more punch in the terms of torque.




The Vics may have more powerful motors, but for the design brief, Harleys have enough power as these are all cruisers (no matter how Victory spins it).
But where Harley is much better, and this makes for a better feel going down the road, is their engines are smoother (the isolating mounts basically make the vibes disappear once you move off), and the gear boxes are much better with more positive shifting and no gear whine.

What is that round thing under the seat meant to be?  An oil tank? Looks, um, not good.
Logged

I'm hip about time, I just gotta go.
Gary B.
*

Reputation 8
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: '06 Concours, '06 DR650
GPS: SE Wisconsin
Miles Typed: 638

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2012, 06:37:00 PM »

I thought it kinda looked like a number plate. Lol
Logged

I'm not lazy, I just have advanced time-management skills.
Justin
*

Reputation 58
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '08
Motorcycles: 2008 Hayabusa - 2004 FJR
GPS: Sunny Colorado
Miles Typed: 6108

My Photo Gallery


Hi, I'm Phteven


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2012, 09:15:31 PM »


Victory has everything in place to unseat Harley except they are not a Harley.


ftfy

"Harley" riders don't buy motorcycles, they buy Harleys.
Logged

FAST: 2004 "Silver Bullet" FJR1300 - FASTER: 2008 Touring/Endurance Hayabusa
www.ledrider.com
stromgal
Lone Rangerette
*

Reputation 26
Offline Offline

Years Contributed: '06, '07, '08, '09, '10
Years Supported: '11
Motorcycles: BigStrom, WeeStrom
GPS: West Lake Michigan
Miles Typed: 4479

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2012, 09:46:19 PM »


I thought it kinda looked like a number plate. Lol


Yep, I have a 'Fuel Cafe' sticker that would look plenty good there.  Smile

My .02-  the Vic powerplant just feels 'stronger' to me.  That said, a lot of folks in this market buy for the intangibles like 'who's looking at me' and 'do I gain entrance to the inner circle'.  Despite good design, Victory has trouble competing in these areas.
Logged

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.  -Douglas Adams
atadaskew
*

Reputation 155
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: A Vethpa and thome other thcooter
GPS: Venice Beach, California.
Miles Typed: 11824

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2012, 02:27:15 PM »


My .02-  the Vic powerplant just feels 'stronger' to me.  


It is stronger.  But it is also vibier and has much more whine.
I'd pick a smoother, slightly weaker motor everytime over that.

Cruising up Pacific Coast Hwy, past Cambria, watching the scenery all I want to experience is the sights, the sounds and the road.  Not the buzzing in the grips and the whine from the gears.
Logged

I'm hip about time, I just gotta go.
Rattlehead
part of a dying breed- the stubborn DIY-er
*

Reputation 10
Offline Offline

Motorcycles: 2005 Buell XB12R
Miles Typed: 366

My Photo Gallery





Ignore
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2012, 07:48:29 AM »




ftfy

"Harley" riders don't buy motorcycles, they buy Harleys.



I used to own a Harley and spent a decent amount of time on the Harley boards. Your statement is dead on the money. To them, there are "Harleys" and then there's everyone elses "motorcycles". I can't count the number of times I heard/read "If there were no Harley, I wouldn't ride" or "I'd give up riding if I couldn't have a Harley". I never understood that. If there were no Suzuki I'd gladly buy another brand (lots of good bikes out there to choose from). If there were no "real motorcycles" I'd ride a scooter just so I could be on 2 wheels.


As far as the Vic goes, I say meh.....
I like Victory and if I were going to buy a cruiser they would be my first stop. I REALLY like the crossroads  Thumbsup and I could see myself putting some serious miles on that thing. The "Judge" though is just OK. I don't see it as anything new and quite frankly, it just furthers my opinion that Victory is in a rut. If the Judge had 6" less wheelbase, sat 2" higher and were 150lb lighter (Sportster sized) I would have a COMPLETELY different opinion of it.
Logged

insert witty saying here.
Pages: 1 2 [3]  All   Go Up
Print
Jump to:  



ST.N

Copyright © 2001 - 2013 Sport-Touring.Net.
All rights reserved.

SimplePortal 2.3.1 © 2008-2009, SimplePortal