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Question: Which of the large sized Adventure-Touring would you BUY?
Aprilia Caponord 1200 - 5 (2.7%)
BMW R1200GS or GS-ADV - 29 (15.6%)
Benelli TreK - 4 (2.2%)
Ducati Multistrada 1200 - 24 (12.9%)
KTM 990 Adv / Adv R - 21 (11.3%)
Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 - 18 (9.7%)
Suzuki VStrom 1000 / 1000 Adv - 14 (7.5%)
Triumph Explorer Tiger 1200 - 20 (10.8%)
Triumph Tiger 1050 - 11 (5.9%)
Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 - 34 (18.3%)
KTM SMT - 6 (3.2%)
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2012, 02:27:19 PM »




the GSA is nice and I have had a couple shaft drive bikes, I have never cleaned a chain, just lube when its dry and adjust if needed (a 3-5 min. job) and replace every once in a while (maybe 45 minutes total??). If you are not doing anything more than you would drive a car on the KTM is a waste. it needs to leave the ground every once in a while Wink Smile


What is the chain life like on your KTM? And in a perfect world I would have the GSA and the 990 - but alas, I had to pick one Sad
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2012, 02:33:35 PM »




What is the chain life like on your KTM? And in a perfect world I would have the GSA and the 990 - but alas, I had to pick one Sad



LOL... I know the feeling.. chain life seems to be OK, it only has 8000 on it so far but is still looking good? I'm thinking maybe 12,000?? I do spend the majority of my miles on the road so that probably helps. A typical ride is probably 100 miles of pavement, 50 miles of fire road and 10 miles of rough fire trail or single track?
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2012, 08:17:25 AM »

After thinking this over I ended up voting for the Stelvio.  The KTM would win in an offroad race between these bikes, but that's not a big priority to me.  I would have voted Tiger 1050, but I've already owned one.  The new Tiger 1200 is a "bike of interest" but after sitting on one, it is a bit too large.  I test rode the Stelvio and it fit me very well, plus I like the simplicity and ease of maintenance.  
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2012, 09:18:48 AM »

I've got a BMW K1200LT but loved to buy BMW R1200GS for sport- touring.. I didn't have regrets buying K12, Just wanted to add R12 on the list...  Bigsmile
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2012, 10:41:19 AM »

Already picked the 'strada. The SMT would have been in consideration, but the local KTM dealer is awfulawfulawful (also ruling out the 990 Adventure). After the massive issues I had with a 950SM, I was leery of that.

Triumph and Super Ten are heavier than I want, and, to be honest, it's not an off-roader for me. It's an upright sportbike. It's too expensive and too heavy for ME to want to take it off-roading anyway, so I went for the most road-biased of the bunch.
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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2012, 03:35:34 PM »

I rode the Multistrada 1200S already and it was nice.  I picked the aprilia as it looks to have potential.  I also like the BMW's.  I despise KTM so I will never own one of them.  The Moto Guzzi is interesting as well.
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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2012, 03:46:24 PM »


I rode the Multistrada 1200S already and it was nice.  I picked the aprilia as it looks to have potential.  I also like the BMW's.  I despise KTM so I will never own one of them.  The Moto Guzzi is interesting as well.


what's wrong with KTM  Headscratch they haven't done anything stupid that I can think of?
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2012, 03:48:57 PM »




what's wrong with KTM  Headscratch they haven't done anything stupid that I can think of?


I should maybe temper "despise", but I know of too many people that have had issues with them, although not the 990 if I recall.  After what one of my friends went through with a RC8 I think I'd rather be sentenced to push a Suzuki for life over owning one of those.
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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »

I went with the Super T though the KTM adv would make it a tough choice.
I've had good experience with Yamaha and the Tenere is supposedly bulletproof.
Nothing bad against KTM, I've just never had any personal experience with them.
My reason for buying this type of bike would be for highway and off-pavement riding, not real off-road riding.
There are a ton of cool unpaved roads in my area that are tough on a pure street bike.
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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2012, 01:17:35 AM »

Tiger 1200.

Between the triple, and the name, I'm enchanted.  Truth though, my next bike is 90% likely to be a Tiger 800XC.  I'd rather have the lighter (and less expensive) bike.  (The F800GS used to be a contender as well).

The big ol' GS has that sturdy Tuetonic sense about it, but my feet just don't like boxers.  The KTM is reaaal tall (I have no dirt bike background), AND the one time I test road one (the 950), the fueling was so screwed up it was unrideable.  (yes, it was brand new.)  The Yammie doesn't do anything for me, the MS is too darned expensive (although I'd love to have one just for the technology if I had a 7 figure income), and the other Italians are too "impractical".

Now, if Aprilia made a RX4.5 and/or RX 5.5 as a "detuned" (for lower maintenance and higher reliability) adventure bike, I'd  have a tough choice between it and a Tigger.

In my quest for a lighter adventure bike, some folks would say "get a DP thumper", but I'd rather not get a thumper.  I'd rather not be micro-thumped for extended periods of time....

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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2012, 08:09:54 PM »

Anyone know why, or more rightly put, have opinions to why the BMW HP2 Enduro didn't catch on? I tried sitting on one on a dealer showroom floor and it was no way Jose. I could keep my right foot on the right peg while standing on my left foot.  Crazy But I absolutely love this bike. It's probably because I have a lot of seat time in the original R80G/S and I owned an '82 Honda XL500R for over 20 years. I rode an R11GS from Big Bend to Dallas on the pavement and while it was admittedly a blast to ride, I wouldn't want to take that beast on anything less than a gravel road. I can only imagine how much heavier the R12 is.  EEK!


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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2012, 08:20:55 PM »


Anyone know why, or more rightly put, have opinions to why the BMW HP2 Enduro didn't catch on? I tried sitting on one on a dealer showroom floor and it was no way Jose. I could keep my right foot on the right peg while standing on my left foot.  Crazy But I absolutely love this bike. It's probably because I have a lot of seat time in the original R80G/S and I owned an '82 Honda XL500R for over 20 years. I rode an R11GS from Big Bend to Dallas on the pavement and while it was admittedly a blast to ride, I wouldn't want to take that beast on anything less than a gravel road. I can only imagine how much heavier the R12 is.  EEK!


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Most likely it didn't catch on for the same reasons the 990 Enduro didn't.  Who wants an enduro that big with that much power?  It's like buying a drag bike for a road course.  When you buy the GS or the Adventure you get the ability to do so much more.

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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2012, 01:13:22 PM »

Something of a moot point since I own a GS, that said if I needed to replace it I'd give the Triumph Explorer a serious look. I checked one out at the IMS and liked it and I've owned a couple of Hinkley Triumphs and had good luck with them.

The thing about the GS is that after setting it up to fit me with bar risers, adjustable pegs, a taller Cee Bailey screen and fitted Russel Day Long saddle the damn thing is about as close to perfect as I've ever found. I've thought about buying an R1200RT from time to time but the GS has more leg room and I have creaky knees, the older I get the more I value comfort so it's a tough call.  
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2012, 09:46:26 AM »

I would like to write in the FJR....
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2012, 09:49:58 AM »

Well it will probably see just as much dirt as most of the bikes listed.
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2012, 10:33:10 AM »


Well it will probably see just as much dirt as most of the bikes listed.



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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2012, 10:35:52 AM »

Win - Win.

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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2012, 05:39:54 PM »

Boringly chose the Vstrom..I know I fit and I live nowhere near any of the "exotic" dealers  ...around here..anything NOT japanese or a iron  horse is exotic..and therefor no dealer support
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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2012, 07:11:26 PM »

I'm on my second Vstrom 1000.  Great all around bike and fits me at 6'3 with wife as passenger and luggage.  I can run with the real sport-tourers all day long.  But, the bike is boring.   I've had a Connie 14 and GS 1150.  More speed and character with these bikes.

I have test ridden the Multistrada 1200, Triumph Explorer, and Super Tenere within the last four weeks.  I would pick the Tenere based on price, and how it fits me.  I think adventure bikes are a personal preference.  The GS' have character and I would love to ride a Stelvio but no dealers around me have them.

The Explorer was super fast for an adventure bike with a sensitive throttle.  It will end up with about 10-15 hp shy of the Connie 14 at the wheel when finally dynoed.  
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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2012, 02:43:20 PM »

I voted mts 1200.  It may have had something to do with just buying one though.  
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