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« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2012, 12:43:19 AM »

We speak to the Director tomorrow morning at 8AM sharp.  

Thanks for all the excellent advice and well wishes.  I will let you all know the outcome by this weekend.   Thumbsup
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« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2012, 03:37:39 AM »

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Honestly I think you have the numbers on your side. Corporate politico office shit can get dicey I know. But when it comes down to dollars and doughnuts, if enough credible people back you up on an opinion about a situation I don't think that can be discounted by any of the powers that be.

I think your situation will quiet down there without a big nuclear explosion. sometimes people just need to be confronted with their own bullshit, I call it the Dead Fish Theory.
Slap them in the head like a big dead fish and maybe they didn't even realize how they were acting all these years.

It'll all work out in the end. Maybe she'll realize the err of her ways and thank you for it and you guys get all freindly and shit, go out for a social drink after work to talk about it, get drunk and BHITAWTF.  Chili
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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2012, 09:11:19 AM »


As for the other people that I'd witnessed the bad treatment of, I learned that HR is rarely your friend in a large corporation.  2 specific people come to mind where HR simply sided with the managers because it is in their best political interest when dealing with bosses at a particular level.  It didn't matter that there were laws protecting these employees from a hostile work environment.  And they were being treated very badly.  Yelling, screaming, degrading them all in front of the whole department.  All these 2 ever did was ask for clarification of what he wanted or simply wanted to do things right.  They took pride in their work.  HR decided to just fire them rather than document the complaints.  No documentation, it never happened.  The bigshot company lawyers were given a heads up and advised HR to enter "insubordination" and "refusal to show up to work" in their files.  Couldn't even get unemployment insurance and took a while to find new jobs.  The company covered it's ass and totally screwed them over.


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« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2012, 09:17:30 AM »




I'm optimistic that this is what our Dir will do.

Yes, our intention is not to get anyone terminated or get some kind of settlement.  We just want it to stop by changing someone's behavior.


IMO it's more likely that if management does act on the complaint(s) they'll just reassign the problem manager somewhere else in the corporation.  Or even reassign the employee, if that's the easier solution.
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« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2012, 09:44:24 AM »

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« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2012, 11:30:39 AM »



People get angry when confronted with their own incompetence and generally do not like to be called on the carpet for anything.


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« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2012, 12:02:38 PM »




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« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2012, 02:07:52 PM »

documentation, documentation, documentation.......... Wink
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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2012, 10:34:21 AM »



Any updates to report?
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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2012, 11:44:36 PM »

Yes.  Three weeks after speaking to the Director.

Result:  Very Positive.   Thumbsup  Thumbsup

My trust in our Director paid off.  After describing the situation regarding our Manager with our Director, as well as forwarding comments made by other Mgrs. outside the Corporate Office to our Director, he was extremely concerned and immediately wanted to rectify the situation.  He was especially concerned with the anger management issues with our Mgr.  Our Director asked us why we waited so long to speak up.  We told him the truth:  we are not tattle-tails and just tend to suck it up and do our job.  

So our Director gave us two choices:  1)  Go directly to HR and have it documented and the behavior is guaranteed to stop immediately.  2)  The Director can work directly with the problem Manager to correct the behavior.  Option #1 was the fastest but also the most painful.  We chose the subtle approach #2 and our Director was happy we went with that.  

After that little meeting, within 48 hours we immediately noticed a big improvement in our Mgr's behavior.  After two weeks, our Director set up a 2nd meeting to give him an update on our "findings".  We told him we were very happy.  Our Director then told us not to allow it to revert back to the old way.  If problems happen, immediately let him know so it can be corrected immediately.  YES!   Thumbsup

The Director told us that the standards of Ethical Behavior for our Corporation was very high and the example is set by our CEO, CFO, and VP of Finance.  He loves working for them and expect everyone under him to behave accordingly.  No harassment of any kind is allowed.  Everyone is expected to behave with courtesy and professionalism.  Period.  Now that's what I'm talking about!  
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« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2012, 12:06:06 AM »

Wow - that's good to hear! They gotta walk the walk.  Thumbsup

Keep them honest.
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« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2012, 02:04:45 AM »


I've seen my share of bad bosses but only had 1 myself...a female sexual harrasser.  Normally a 22 year old single male wouldn't have issue with this but she was simply vile.  She made my life miserable for turning her down.  She was a bull dyke man hater to the core but she had no problem with bullying the other drafters and intimidating them into putting out.




Now that the OP's situation has been resolved, in pretty much the ideal way, I am going to indulge my hijack tendencies a little here.

Do you look extremely feminine, or was she the most inept bull dyke on the planet?

I have never met a bull dyke that made any particular demands for sex...from men.  Did you all wear a lot of androgynous clothing at work or how did she get confused on this?
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« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2012, 06:24:00 AM »


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« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2012, 08:54:25 AM »




  Did you all wear a lot of androgynous clothing at work or how did she get confused on this?



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« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2012, 10:47:58 AM »




Result:  Very Positive.   Thumbsup  Thumbsup




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« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2012, 05:16:46 PM »

Great news, Rogue -- much better than I would have expected (and faster, as well) . . .. . you have a great asset in your director!
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« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2012, 04:27:58 PM »

Sorry for the thread resurrection.

I witnessed a boss calling a subordinate an asshole the other day.

Any ideas?
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« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2012, 04:31:20 PM »

My situation did not reach that level.

That needs to go to HR.
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« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2012, 04:34:22 PM »


My situation did not reach that level.

That needs to go to HR.


Absolutely. That sort of behavior is a one-way ticket to the principal's office. No question.
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« Reply #59 on: March 30, 2012, 05:13:56 PM »


Sorry for the thread resurrection.

I witnessed a boss calling a subordinate an asshole the other day.

Any ideas?


depends on thier relationship Wink.  one of my foreman calls me an asshole about everyday, I make some smart ass remark and we have a laugh. if someone was to witness this I suppose it would look bad Rolleyes
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