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« on: March 02, 2012, 08:38:18 AM »

A MCN reader in the UK spotted a new Sport version of the Tiger 1050 which was parked in a McD's parking lot while the Triumph test rider took a break.

The new Sport version sports a single-sided swingarm, revised fairing, new wheels, and revised rear subframe.  The article does not mention if the much besmeared suspension or headlights get upgrades as well, though I'd hope they do.

Too bad the "slightly grumpy" test rider wouldn't allow the reader to get further shots of the bike.  I'd particularly like to see this beast from other side with that new single-sided swingarm!  Drool

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MCN online article - http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2012/March/mar0212-triumph-tiger-sport-1050-spied/

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 09:58:10 AM »

I would have thought a sportier Tiger would get the new 1215cc engine!   Headscratch
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 10:09:31 AM »


I would have thought a sportier Tiger would get the new 1215cc engine!   Headscratch


From what I have read, the 1050 engine may indeed "Sportier" than the new 1200 engine.  The one article I recall, a Triumph design manager was saying that there will never be a Speed Triple 1200 because the new engine is slower revving and not sporty enough.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 10:15:40 AM »




From what I have read, the 1050 engine may indeed "Sportier" than the new 1200 engine.  The one article I recall, a Triumph design manager was saying that there will never be a Speed Triple 1200 because the new engine is slower revving and not sporty enough.


Makes sense.  But from what others have said, the 1050 is an old design and was on it's way out.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 01:48:04 PM »

Sportier Tiger 1050 makes sense; now that there's the 800XC they can abandon the 'dual-sporting' pretense.  I do love that engine....

(edited to add: appears they finally put a functional chain guard on it as well!)
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 02:31:37 PM »

What also makes sense is using up all those old Sprint SSSAs now that it's been discontinued.  

Triumph has a rich history of making sure the parts bins are emptied out (ST/S3 SSSA on late production RS, 1050 cases on late production Tiger 955's, etc).

They could be using a modified Speed Triple SSSA, but I suspect the longer wheelbase Sprint unit works better for the Tiger's longer travel suspension.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2012, 10:21:43 AM »


What also makes sense is using up all those old Sprint SSSAs now that it's been discontinued.  




Well they can still use those SSSA's with the Sprint GT's, too.  




Makes sense.  But from what others have said, the 1050 is an old design and was on it's way out.


Probably speculation.  As is seen, the 1050 engine, though derived from the original triples, remains in the line-up 8-years after introduction.  
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2012, 02:10:35 PM »


Once again, Rincewind gets the scoop!  Thumbsup

Personally, the Tiger 1050 never did much for me. And I don't see why the 1215 engine can't be used or why it "revs slower," according to Triumph. It's got the same stroke as the 1050 and if they lightened pistons, con rods and crank by a couple ounces each, there's no reason why it couldn't rev faster or higher than the 1050.

Either that, or Triumph should work on making it more fuel efficient.
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2012, 02:39:02 PM »

I've only seen the spy pic.  Haven't see a single bit of reliable info, only reader's speculations.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2012, 02:55:45 PM »

And I don't see why the 1215 engine can't be used or why it "revs slower," according to Triumph. It's got the same stroke as the 1050 and if they lightened pistons, con rods and crank by a couple ounces each, there's no reason why it couldn't rev faster or higher than the 1050.

Even the high revving suspersports are peaking at around 4500 feet/minute piston speed when you could actually go as high as 7000 before catastrophic failure.  No reason the 1215 couldn't rev to 12000 reliably.  Pretty much every engine out there can rev much faster than what they are factory limited too.  It isn't the meachanical durability that's the issue.  The issue is more likely breathing at high rpms and the speed of flame propogation in larger bores.  But who cares in regards to an Sport Tourer?  High rpm peak power is overrated in real world riding.  Give me a strong and wide midrange torque curve any day.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2012, 04:30:04 PM »




Well they can still use those SSSA's with the Sprint GT's, too.  



Probably speculation.  As is seen, the 1050 engine, though derived from the original triples, remains in the line-up 8-years after introduction.  


Sprint GT is also on its last year, by all accounts.
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2012, 06:15:27 PM »

Explorer 1200, right out of BMW's book of GS's, Trophy 1200, spy shots, again BMW 1600 GT, and now this half hearted attempt at the mighty Multi 1200? Come on Triumph you can do better than that..
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 06:53:22 PM »


Explorer 1200, right out of BMW's book of GS's, Trophy 1200, spy shots, again BMW 1600 GT, and now this half hearted attempt at the mighty Multi 1200? Come on Triumph you can do better than that..


And they make a great bike for less than the cost of BMW with a triple instead of the boxer. What's not to like? I'm glad to have the variety and Triumph does quite well with them.

You'd prefer them to stick to building Bonnevilles?   Headscratch
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2012, 07:41:13 PM »


Explorer 1200, right out of BMW's book of GS's, Trophy 1200, spy shots, again BMW 1600 GT, and now this half hearted attempt at the mighty Multi 1200? Come on Triumph you can do better than that..


You're living up to the stereotype.  Just tell me you didn't type that post from a Starbucks, ok?
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2012, 04:04:01 AM »




You're living up to the stereotype.  Just tell me you didn't type that post from a Starbucks, ok?


Stereotype of what, a Canadian , it was just an observation, unravel your underwear people. The Speed Triple and Bonneville are unique to Triumph. I owned a Sprint ST and still own a Bonnie. I never said I did not like them, I just commented that I would have liked a bit more from them. And no I am not at Starbucks but I do stop there on occasion.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2012, 06:22:31 AM »


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You'd prefer them to stick to building Bonnevilles?   Headscratch


The Classic line could use a upgrade, maybe 904cc motor and better suspenion. Perhaps a new model, Thruxton R with USD forks/radial brakes, to competer with the new Norton.   Smile

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2012, 07:14:16 AM »




Stereotype of what, a Canadian , it was just an observation, unravel your underwear people. The Speed Triple and Bonneville are unique to Triumph. I owned a Sprint ST and still own a Bonnie. I never said I did not like them, I just commented that I would have liked a bit more from them. And no I am not at Starbucks but I do stop there on occasion.


If you were a stereotype of a Canadian, you would have been writing from Tim Horton's.   Lol
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2012, 12:29:47 PM »




If you were a stereotype of a Canadian, you would have been writing from Tim Horton's.   Lol


So right!
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2012, 01:10:41 PM »




If you were a stereotype of a Canadian, you would have been writing from Tim Horton's.   Lol




So right!

You bet.  Horton's advertises at the hockey games.  Starbucks is for metrosexual poofs who don't like sports at all.
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2012, 01:48:37 PM »




You bet.  Horton's advertises at the hockey games.  Starbucks is for metrosexual poofs who don't like sports at all.


Starbucks is for metrosexual poofs who don't like sports at all.
Typical Texan stereo typing everyone thru the web, proof that the brain is not wired to the hand  
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