New Sport Version of the Triumph Tiger 1050 for 2013

[dje31]

Any new rumors, speculation or scuttlebutt, now that it's 2013 and the Mayans were proven wrong?

Is this a new take on the Sprint RS?  Is it coming stateside?

[rdbandkab]

New info:

http://www.staffordshiretriumph.co.uk/archives/8302

[dje31]

Boosh!  Thanks for the info.

Not crazy about the color options---would prefer black, but the red will work---and might have preferred exhaust under the saddle---mostly for aesthetics, but partly for luggage space---but otherwise, thumbs up!

The big questions for me are: 1.) Is it coming to the States?  and 2.) Price (due in Feb.).

Doug

[Rincewind]

Just saw the info on Triumph's Facebook page, thanks for the better article, rdbandkab.  

The bike is listed on the Triumph UK page, but nothing on the US site yet that I've seen.

http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/range/adventure/tiger-1050/2013/25573

[Cablebandit]

...needs a beak.

[Yankee Dog]

I wonder if they have bumped the electrical output. That is the whole reason I dont own a T1050 right now.
 

[expatbrit]

Looks like they fixed a fair few of my niggles about the Tiger.

Better headlights, better panniers (maybe -- that high and large exhaust is still going to chew up the right hand side, and the locking mechanism on the Sprint's basically consumed 1/3rd of the bag), 'better' suspension. They even moved the dash controls to the handlebars. Nice!

[Croak]

Looks like they modified the Sprint GT/Trophy pannier base to fit on the new subframe.  Should be a nice improvement over the old Sprint/Tiger pannier system, even with the right side cut-out for the exhaust.  With the SSSA and new subframe it looks like they were able to tuck that exhaust in much closer to the centerline of the bike than the old Tiger 1050, meaning the exhaust cutout on the right pannier shouldn't be as extreme.

They're also getting their money's worth out of the old Sprint ST/Speed Triple SSSA tooling and/or inventory.  Parts Bin 101, and reminds me of the last years of the Sprint RS.  Even looks like they're using the 2008 Speed Triple wheels.

As for the increased power output, they simply uncorked it to what the Sprint/S3 had with the introduction of the 1050 motor in 2005.  They're still leaving ~10hp on the table, there is no reason other than market segmentation why the Tiger Sport can't have the same HP as the GT and S3 at no additional cost to Triumph, just like there was no valid engineering reason for the old Tiger 1050 to have a HP deficit compared to the Sprint when it was released in 2007.

Despite me sounding like I'm bagging on Triumph here, I think this could be a very nice solo low-frills sport-touring bike, and I expect it'll come in at a very competitive price-point, somewhere in the $12k before farkles.  Let's not forget that the the old 1050 didn't exactly suck out of the box, and this one seems to address most of the problems (lighting, suspension, wind) while improving on the aesthetics a bit with the new bodywork and SSSA.

It'll still have 200 mile tank range, looks like a fairly decent pannier capacity, optional heated grips and top box, easy to adjust and/or change handlebars, the seat appears well-made, and it'll likely have at least the same 450w power output the old Tiger and Sprint ST had, which is more than adequate for most people to run all their farkles and heated liner/gloves (if you want to get crazy with incandescent aux lights or 2-up heated gear, that's another story).  I'm guessing wet weight is about the same as before, just north of 500 pounds.

I think it's filling two slots in the Triumph product line, covering for both the discontinued Sprint ST and the old Tiger 1050, and while it won't be flying out of the dealerships, it'll be a steady seller.

[Hickey]

I want it. I hope it makes it stateside. I might well end up with one so long as it has ABS. Red please.

[scottdc]

I asked Triumph USA via Twitter about availability of the Sport and got the response "no current plans for sale in the U.S.". Bummer as I was about to call my dealer to see when they'd take deposits...

[redsled]

They're also getting their money's worth out of the old Sprint ST/Speed Triple SSSA tooling and/or inventory.  Parts Bin 101, and reminds me of the last years of the Sprint RS.  Even looks like they're using the 2008 Speed Triple wheels.

It's not the 08+ S3 wheels, maybe the new Daytonas perhaps?

Despite me sounding like I'm bagging on Triumph here, I think this could be a very nice solo low-frills sport-touring bike, and I expect it'll come in at a very competitive price-point, somewhere in the $12k before farkles. 

I'm thinking more in the $13k range, seeing as how the Explorer is north of $15 and the Trophy is $19k    I thought I really wanted that Trophy until I saw the price.

The Tiger will probably be the one to draw me back to a bagger.  I love my Speed Triple, but miss my 07 Tiger I sold back in June.

[HipGnosis]

I want it. I hope it makes it stateside. I might well end up with one so long as it has ABS. Red please.

Definitely see wheel position sensor slots in the close up of the rear wheel.  

I asked Triumph USA via Twitter about availability of the Sport and got the response "no current plans for sale in the U.S.". Bummer as I was about to call my dealer to see when they'd take deposits...

They have to say that, until the 'official' release.

Triumph is making a 'standard' motorcycle, which is quaintly unique.
I'm definitely in the market this year, and this bike is checking a LOT of my want / need boxes (and I STILL miss the engine of my 955 RS)...

[redsled]

I'm definitely in the market this year, and this bike is checking a LOT of my want / need boxes (and I STILL miss the engine of my 955 RS)...

I see in your sig you have a K1200.  I'm actually thinking of an older K1200 (of some iteration) as well as the new Sport.  I've had three Triples (a 955 S3, Tiger 1050, and current S3) and am curious about the comparison to the K12 4 cylinder.  Can you enlighten me?

[expatbrit]

I want it. I hope it makes it stateside. I might well end up with one so long as it has ABS. Red please.

I'd be absolutely shocked if it didn't, at least as an option. Especially given the way things are going in Europe with mandatory ABS on bikes these days.

My Sprint had it as an option, I believe the Tiger's had it as an option previously. Can't see them deleting it.

[Silverbird]

All I have to say is F*** You Triumph.  I would have bought one of these if they'd announced it as they should have and not been so secretive about discontinuing the old one.  

Oh well, at least I won't have to worry about bolts randomly falling off my overpriced bike.

[HipGnosis]

I see in your sig you have a K1200.  I'm actually thinking of an older K1200 (of some iteration) as well as the new Sport.  I've had three Triples (a 955 S3, Tiger 1050, and current S3) and am curious about the comparison to the K12 4 cylinder.  Can you enlighten me?

I can't do a true direct comparisson because my K1200RS is definitely heavier than the 955RS (that I traded in on the K12).
The K is smoother, almost boringly smooth.  The 955 was too, but the K is smooth in a higher class.
I like the power band of the K.  I very seldom down shift.  But the 955 had the most useable power.  I virtually never downshifted because the power was right where I needed it.  I really enjoyed riding 955 out of town because when the speed limit went from 55 to 65 I would whack the throttle open (exactly as I passed the 65 mph sign), the bike would LUNG ahead and any traffic that was around me was now behind me.
The main reason I'm in the market is because I'm tiring of the maintenance costs on the '01 K12...
Every front brake hose had to be replaced; and because of the ABS, there are a lot of them and the dealer has to bleed them.
BMW nor the aftermarket sells a rear brake master cylinder rebuild kit.  I bought a used master cylinder.
When the bike was in the dealer shop for the front brakes, they found my final drive was wearing – they wanted to replace MANY parts including the whole rear case.  I had them replace the 2 main parts and I’ve been occasionally looking for a used final drive.

[redsled]

I asked Triumph USA via Twitter about availability of the Sport and got the response "no current plans for sale in the U.S.". Bummer as I was about to call my dealer to see when they'd take deposits...

Seems to be the case.  I spoke to my dealer yesterday who is close with to the US HQ here, and was told it's a Europe only model and that the 1050 is being dropped on this side of the pond.

Dammit.

[Silverbird]

Makes me feel better I guess

[Hickey]

Maybe it will be available as a 2014 model?

[SprintRSrider]

If I was a betting man, I'd be betting that this, 2013, will be the last year of the 1050 engine period.  It's "old", been around for eight years now, I'm sure the case molds are getting tired and they won't be replaced.  That's my 2 cents...