Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k

[Playinthestreet]

The front end of that  bike makes a busa look good.

[Hardware]

They didn't even have Givi rebadge the hard cases.

The bike's uglier than a smacked pudding.

For 30K, the brunette better be included...

[PatM]

So what are the torque specs on their engines? If it's all about torque, why do they only list HP?

Ask and you shall get 
Minimum 161bhp @ 7800rpm; 165Nm (122lb-ft) @4500rpm; 8000rpm redline http://www.motusmotorcycles.com/kmv4.html

[PatM]

See, this is why I always say "First I look at the purse (or saddle bags)".  

Other than Leno and Cruise, I don't know anyone else who can help them grow their company...

Sargent seat - $400 for any bike
Givis - just like on a $11K Suzuki Bandit

Yeah, it just does not seem 'special'.  Sure it has supposedly a nice motor, but now that the new ZX14 makes 200 rwhp and a metric butt load of torque, what is special about this motor?  Apart from being extremely ugly.

Get the new Zx14.  Put on the exact freakin' same Givi bags that the Motus uses.  Put on a Sargent seat.  Send the forks out to Traxxion Dynamics.  I bet you've got a bike that would do everything but more that the Motus does for about $20,000 less.
I also think the ZX14 looks better.

Well, at least the Motus has a shaft drive.  Oh wait...

Get a C14 and you have the same power level, "factory" bags, shaft drive, and an electric windshield as a bonus for much, much less $$.
What you don't get is the exclusivity of ownership and the cute girl in the pic.  

[caddydaddy]

I'll keep my Sprint ST with "only" 130 HP, bags and all,  for a few more years!  

[McRider]

A lot of people pay that kind of money (or at least they used to) for a custom chopper, and at least this looks like a bike you could actually ride somewhere.  However, the kind of poeple who spend the money on custom choppers are probably not the kind of people who buy a bike to ride somewhere.  

[PatM]

A lot of people pay that kind of money (or at least they used to) for a custom chopper, and at least this looks like a bike you could actually ride somewhere.  However, the kind of poeple who spend the money on custom choppers are probably not the kind of people who buy a bike to ride somewhere.  

 

[Justin]

The front end of that  bike makes a busa look good.

Hey now!

Ask and you shall get  
Minimum 161bhp @ 7800rpm; 165Nm (122lb-ft) @4500rpm; 8000rpm redline http://www.motusmotorcycles.com/kmv4.html

OK, so it has 40 less HP and 10ish more Ft/lbs of torque at that crank stock than the Busa. The new zx-14 has like 60-70 more HP and more torque. I could go out and put Ohlins suspension and progressive shock etc on my current bike for a few grand, and the top of the line motus will still cost 3 times as much; for less performance.  Of course there is the lifetime rear sprocket to consider.

I'm sure they are going to sell these - just not to me. They are priced well out of my range. But there are many people out there that have the bucks, and will spend more for the novelty of it.

[Zixxerpilot]

My old GSXR 1100 was highly modded, and was putting out 120ft-lbs and 185hp atbth wheel. I can tell you, its nuts! As powerful as the Hayabusa is, it just felt sluggish in comparison.

That was on a 500lb SS bike, though.

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[atadaskew]

A lot of people pay that kind of money (or at least they used to) for a custom chopper

But the reason they did that was because the choppers stuck out and yelled 'hey look at me!'

The Motus has zero chance of doing that.  And people drop big coin for expensive bikes for the 'hey look at me!' factor.

Imagine if Ferrari made a sports car that looked like a Toyota Camry.  But charged Ferrari money for it.  Would it sell?  No.
But this is even more extreme because everyone has heard of Ferrari and still it would not sell if they did this.  Badge or not.
The Motus has zero brand recognition, and looks homely.  But is priced like it should look stunning.

This turkey is done.

[Orson]

This turkey is done.

Guzzi bashing by proxy reported to moderators.

[Kraz]

The Motus has zero brand recognition, and looks homely.  But is priced like it should look stunning.

This turkey is done.

Lotsa bikes out there with little to no brand recognition - to some, that's a good thing.  Guzzi is overpriced is you're only going off dyno numbers as well, and the look thing is subjective.

The way the bike looks with that motor sticking out like that is worth a lot in my book.

Saying you can pimp out a ZX14 with suspension and bags isn't much of an argument to me.  Most people who drop a lot of coin on a bike don't want to throw away a new set of mediocre shocks, go through the time and hassle of having it done, etc - they just want a bike with premium components to begin with.  One stop shopping is an easy sell (maybe not at this price); imagine how many touring bikes BMW would sell if they only showed a stipped down bike, but then tried to tell you that it's OK, b/c they can order you a bunch of farkles that the warranty won't cover.

It does seem a little stupid to me that heated grips are extra at that price point.


And I really like turkey too.

[Dewey]

inline four torque is served in delicate tea cups whereas V four torque is brandished in man-sized buckets.

That load of shit never gets old.  
Yeah, fours don't make any torque, you really gotta spin a Hayabuas or FJ1200 to get any power, they're soooo peaky.  (that was sarcasm btw)

[Kyle401]

Good to see that there's a dealer within 30 miles of me!  I might have to drop by to take a look.  If they'll give $15K on trade for my Uly, I might just buy one.  

I really hope that these guys make it.  It took a huge effort to get this far.

[Kraz]

No dealer on SoCal - or did I miss it?  Must be an emissions thing...

[ConPilot1]

I really hope that these guys make it.  It took a huge effort to get this far.

I hope so too. It'll be nice to see another American mfr. on the scene, and something different than the usual "American" howl amoungst the loyals, something more along the lines of a real bike.  

 However, the price point is definitely out of the question for this acehole. I could put three or four nice bikes on a floor for that entry ticket price.

It is a really nice looking package however.

[evilted]

Just noticed that European Motorsports/Riders' Hill in Dahlonega is one of Motus' eight US dealers.  They (and Aprilia and Moto Guzzi) have been pretty good about making demo bikes available -- I wonder/hope that will be the case with Motus as well?

And Dahlonega seems an unlikely location for Motus given the pricing, but I've heard that this dealership sells a great many bikes to buyers outside the US.  They claim to be the #2 and #3 US dealers for Moto Guzzi and Aprilia in 2011 respectively (I assume that's based on sales volume).

[Rincewind]

Pics from the Daytona press event for the expensive pony

@ https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.342222272480497.73763.135990566437003&type=1

[Roadscum]

Just noticed that European Motorsports/Riders' Hill in Dahlonega is one of Motus' eight US dealers.  They (and Aprilia and Moto Guzzi) have been pretty good about making demo bikes available -- I wonder/hope that will be the case with Motus as well?

And Dahlonega seems an unlikely location for Motus given the pricing, but I've heard that this dealership sells a great many bikes to buyers outside the US.  They claim to be the #2 and #3 US dealers for Moto Guzzi and Aprilia in 2011 respectively (I assume that's based on sales volume).

Dahlonega is a weekend retreat for the Atlanta folks, some with money, lot's of money! I'm sure Anthoney's got things under control at Ridershill, he's done a great job so far, the man's got great business skills.

Regards, Paul

[Dan K]

Those pictures only increase my frustration at the pricing.  Beautiful bike.  Too bad that the majority of those who desire one and who EXPECTED to be able to buy one (based on the so-called affordable price point Motus told us to expect) will not be able to.  Just from looking at it and checking out the stats, I want one.  Just too damn much cash for me.  Like someone said, I could buy 4-5 different bikes for the price of admission, let alone the R version.  Oh well.

- Dan