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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 19, 2012, 12:53:25 PM »
$31k is just a marketing exercise to test pricing elasticity
I think it's probably a great bike, aside from the headers being destroyed in a parking lot tip over. According to their marketers, the engine is under-stressed by design meaning big improvements in HP/TQ are theoretically possible. If they survive for a couple years we ought to be able to find them closer to the $20k price range which would be reasonable for a good, unique all-rounder that doesn't make you want to vomit just looking at it, like a Busa or ZX14.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 19, 2012, 02:30:40 PM »
Quote from: Mookie on March 19, 2012, 12:53:25 PM
$31k is just a marketing exercise to test pricing elasticity
+1
Like I said in an earlier post - it is MUCH easier to lower the price on something than it is to raise it. Business 101. I'm gonna have to wait till that happens though to get mine
The looks are starting to grow on me, much like a guzzi with bigger jugs - and bigger is better right?
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 19, 2012, 03:44:09 PM »
What was the final weight? How does it compare to the 'ST.n Sport-Tourrer' we spec'd out?
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 19, 2012, 07:31:59 PM »
Quote from: Justin on March 19, 2012, 02:30:40 PM
The looks are starting to grow on me, much like a guzzi with bigger jugs - and bigger is better right?
Some people say "if it's more than a handful, it's too much." I think the Motus' jugs are about right tho.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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I want this one.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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Quote from: R Doug on March 19, 2012, 07:37:12 PM
I want this one.
+1. I've always had a thing for red heads.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 19, 2012, 08:43:07 PM »
Rouge on the end of jugs used to be fashionable. Though sometimes messy.
I'd love to own that MST-R in black, but if I were spending that much coin, I'd make them redo the hanger mounts so the straps didn't obscure the Akra logo...or go with smaller logos.
And I really wish those pipes were thicker diameter just for aesthetics.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 19, 2012, 11:19:16 PM »
Gotta +1 about the drop comment destroying those headers. I could definitely see that being a very, very expensive drop, and it happens. I've done it myself, and I've seen others drop bikes.
The engine config is interesting, but they really should protect those pipes more.
And there's too much tubage going on in the framework. I don't like spider-webs of frame tubage from a design standpoint. I'm sure it's lightweight and functional but ugly as sin. Hide that shit with some nice plastic panels.
Other than that and the price tag, I'ts quite lovely.
The red heads are killer though, that should be a design trademark that stays. Those red heads would go great with a white or grey bike too.
Whoever thought to make those valve covers fire engine red should be given a bonus. That's a nice touch.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 20, 2012, 12:12:31 AM »
It's like a half nekkid SuperNorge.
With four big jugs.
But $30K is too many monies.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 20, 2012, 12:15:50 AM »
31 k?
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 20, 2012, 08:59:51 AM »
After four pages to date, I believe we can summarize the following thus far:
1) We all agree the starting price is too rich for us.
2) The price may come down over time.
3) Some of us like the looks while others do not (I for one love the looks of it).
4) The bike doesn't seem like it will crash well.
Any other STN talking points on this bike?
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 20, 2012, 09:02:21 AM »
Quote from: coho on March 20, 2012, 12:12:31 AM
It's like a half nekkid SuperNorge.
With four big jugs.
Anyone else believe the Motus looks a little like the Duc ST3/4?
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 20, 2012, 11:47:49 AM »
Quote from: R Doug on March 20, 2012, 09:02:21 AM
Anyone else believe the Motus looks a little like the Duc ST3/4?
Nah, the bags on the, much much cheaper, Duc are unique to that bike and properly blended in. Not some GIVIS that are also used by the Suzuki Bandit...
If anything, the closest to the Motus lookwise is the Guzzi Norge, with similar cylinder shape. But that bike also has a problem of being much cheaper, comes with a single sided shaft drive, has luggage uniquely designed for the bike, has standard heated grips and e-shield, anti lock brakes...
Really I don't see anything unique that the Motus brings to the table. Want a V4? I seriously find the Honda VFR12 more attractive than this, I'm betting it has the same powah, you too can get GIVI bags for it, it has a shaft drive, ABS brakes and you can now get them for $10,000 new!!!
If you think you are getting performance with the Motus, the new 200 at the rear wheel ZX14 puts an end to that... Pretty sure you can get an Ohlins shock and GIVI bags for that too.
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Quote from: the frenchman on March 20, 2012, 11:48:48 AM
Some ducatis also use Givi OEM.
GIVI may make them, but in a shape unique for Ducati. That actually matches the styling of the bike.
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 20, 2012, 11:51:41 AM »
Motus = too pricey for the masses, too cheap to be exclusive
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March 20, 2012, 11:55:59 AM »
Quote from: Cablebandit on March 20, 2012, 11:51:41 AM
Motus = too pricey for the masses, too cheap to be exclusive
Solution = raise the price to make it exclusive, and change the name to Motussi to make it have more character
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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Quote from: Cablebandit on March 20, 2012, 11:51:41 AM
Motus = too pricey for the masses, too bland looking to be exclusive
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Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k
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March 20, 2012, 12:25:00 PM »
We wouldn't even be having this value discussion if it was made in Bologna instead of Birmingham, and the word Motus had a vowel on the end.
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March 20, 2012, 01:16:57 PM »
Spare parts? Need an oil fiter or ignition coil? OEM parts can be had at any GM dealer...or AutoZone for aftermarket. I know for sure those 2 items are GM parts. There may be more GM items in there.
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March 20, 2012, 02:27:09 PM »
Not many people consider spare parts as a purchasing decision for a BRAND NEW vehicle.
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