Re: Motus Pricing - starting at $31k

[R Doug]

Shil, I can see you on one.  

You are getting sleepy.  You ned this bike Shil, you need this bike.  

[shil]

It's got two too many cylinders,and they're lined up the wrong way.  

[Rattlehead]

Never underestimate the cost of developing something as complex as a motorcycle COMPLETELY from scratch. Frankly, I’m surprised they got the price in the 30’s.  


Personally, if money weren’t an issue, I’d buy this over ANY Ducati, BMW, Guzzi or whatever.
-I like the fact that it was designed, and built here in the States. There is a serious shortage of real motorcycle mfg’s here. (Harley doesn’t count in my book). And I’d love to be able to support someone who’s willing to build a useable motorcycle (not a fashion accessory) here in the good ol’ US of A.
-I applaud those who are willing to risk everything to chase a dream  
-Their idea of a perfect bike is VERY much inline with my own. I like the thought of a lightweight ST bike with a killer engine.   600+lb tanks don’t appeal to me no matter how comfortable or capable they may be.
-I LOVE the longitudinally mounted V4 and the noise it makes, best I can tell from the vids, is pure audible ecstasy.   Add in that it makes a butt-load of torque, WAY more than enough HP (especially the “R”) is virtually maintenance free (pushrods) and is unlike anything else out there and it’s just about perfect in my book.
-The look, to me, is just right, especially in black with those red valve covers.  

If I won the lotto tomorrow they would be a MST-R in my garage the next day. Unfortunately, I won’t pay $31g+ for a car (that I can use in the snow and take my family places in) much less a motorcycle that I can only use, by myself, for 7-8mo out of the year.  
I sincerely hope they take off and I wish them the very best of luck.
 

[R Doug]

I agree with you 100%.

My rants are mostly derived from the fact I am not able to convince myself to buy it.  I want it, yes.  But not for that price.  If I won the lotto and had more money than I needed, I'd catch a flight to my closest dealer and put money down on one sight unseen.  

(black with red valve covers, of course)  

But, since my decision is based on my current reality, I can't justify anything more than a Multi Touring S and that's still a stretch.  

[atadaskew]

I pretty much agree with everything you said, except... why doesn't Harley count as a "real American motorcycle manufacturer"...?  

I don't like [insert brand of motorcycle here] therefore they are not real motorcycles.

[Orson]

IMHO, a rational person isn't going to buy this bike by paying a premium for Motus' R&D.  Therefore, their only market at this point is the "more money than brains" client (not meaning to be blunt).  

Some potential buyers may see themselves as a sort of benevolent venture capitalists...albeit with no return for their dollar, other than the desire to see a nascent concern succeed  

[Rattlehead]

I pretty much agree with everything you said, except... why doesn't Harley count as a "real American motorcycle manufacturer"...?  

I don't like their bikes (for the most part), I don't agree with their buiness practices, I find their "American Legend" opinion of themselves to be insulting (do a quick search on the history of Harley, it's not as glamorous as they would have you believe) and I despise their "lifestyle" marketing with every fiber of my being. To sum it up, I have no respect for Harley as a manufacturer.  

You are free to hold whatever opinion of them you chose to and I will think none the less of you for it. My personal opinion though I have no reservations about expressing.

It was not my intent to turn this into a Harley bashing thread. It's hard to mention "American motorcycle mfg" though without them coming up as they are pretty much the only game in town (Victory is still too small to make in dent in the grand scheme of things).

My point was, I think Motus may have built a bike that really could be something special. A good long test ride could confirm or rebuke this.

[Orson]

Well, I see in the latest Motorcyclist magazine that the new upstart motorcycle company Metisse is marketing  a $27,000 bike that is a basic parallel twin, so I think that puts some perspective on the price of the Motus.

[atadaskew]

Well, I see in the latest Motorcyclist magazine that the new upstart motorcycle company Metisse is marketing  a $27,000 bike that is a basic parallel twin, so I think that puts some perspective on the price of the Motus.

Good grief that thing is ugly.

[Orson]

Good grief that thing is ugly.

Rickman brothers bashing reported to moderators.

 

 

supposed to be based on the old Rickman Metisse Triumph scramblers although I think they missed the mark.

Here's an original:

[Kraz]

"Missed the mark" might be a good thing - that's even uglier than the 27 g Metisse.  

Motus sounds like a steal next to that.

[Kyle401]

"Since announcing the anticipated arrival of Motus we have had a tremendous response from customers interested in being some of the first to own this new American Motorcycle.  All bike orders will be filled in the order they are received.  If you would like to be added to our list of Future Motus Owners contact us today!"

From the local dealer's Motus page.  Still waiting to see one in person.

[ConPilot1]

I agree with Rattleheads' sentiments on this page x1000.

And again, I'd LOVE to see this take off and become successful. Same here, I'd be on a plane with a certified check if I hit the lotto.

I think the bike is beautiful and it's great to see an American made motorcycle in a platform that moreso fits in with the desires of this crowd other than the typical big heavy chrome plated V-twin pig with some
stupid ass mucho-macho name related to trains, billiard tables, or tools.  

[Dan K]

Love everything about it but the price.  Too high.  Period. Market is limited to the money no object crowd, and that ain't me.

Isn't the issue that they claimed it would be affordable to get us all interested in it? I felt like the rug was pulled out from under me when they announced the price, justified or not.

- Dan

[HipGnosis]

Motus is beginning certification  and are aiming at delivering dealers their first MSTs this summer.
And.. they'll have  demo rides at Motus dealers and several other events!
Plus,  they've released the price of the 'crate' engine;  $10,220

http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=80c5f8f2088bf98bbbb1cd00b&id=a4ba604a2c&e=2546b78ba3

[Squareman357]

Motus is beginning certification  and are aiming at delivering dealers their first MSTs this summer.
And.. they'll have  demo rides at Motus dealers and several other events!
Plus,  they've released the price of the 'crate' engine;  $10,220

http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=80c5f8f2088bf98bbbb1cd00b&id=a4ba604a2c&e=2546b78ba3

Seriously??  $10K just for the MOTOR???   I wish them all the luck in the world, the US can certainly use more local brands, but damn if they shouldn't have gotten some larger pockets to back them and get that price down.  For just a hair more than the motor I can buy a sport-tourer fully loaded from any number of makes.  Sheesh.

[Kraz]

A couple of those could make for an awesome 3.3L V8.    Anyone got an old Miata layin' around?  

[Zixxerpilot]

Seriously??  $10K just for the MOTOR???    I wish them all the luck in the world, the US can certainly use more local brands, but damn if they shouldn't have gotten some larger pockets to back them and get that price down.  For just a hair more than the motor I can buy a sport-tourer fully loaded from any number of makes.  Sheesh.

Price an S&S crate engine once. That's cheap! And S&S isn't nearly as good.


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