Can you reduce the weight of an FJR enough to make it a sport-tourer?

[county]

If you vote for option 2 or 3 please give details.

[SLK50]

Japanese wisdom says perfection is attained when nothing more can be removed.

The FJR is case in point.

[stevent]

No, the FJR is saddly a microcosim of American society as a whole, overweight, underpowered and quite frankly butt-ugly

Like the little fat kid in the bumble bee outfit on that one faggot Hippy video about no rain or some stupid bullshit, a sad display of hopes and dreams missplaced....

I weep for us all......  

[Cablebandit]

underpowered and quite frankly butt-ugly

From the guy riding a GS.

I laughed.  

[sprocket]

Can a wanna be "Sport Tour Rider" ever get past the freeway/slab, city street, parade riding debauchery that has him cast into a delusional sensation of being one of the big boys?

Only if he puts forth an effort to seek out that so-far elusive fantasy of being a true " Sport Tour Rider"

[county]

Can a wanna be "Sport Tour Rider" ever get past the freeway/slab, city street, parade riding debauchery that has him cast into a delusional sensation of being one of the big boys?

Only if he puts forth an effort to seek out that so-far elusive fantasy of being a true " Sport Tour Rider"

Damn dude, looks like you got your own poll...

[Yokel]

No, the FJR is saddly a microcosim of American society as a whole, overweight, underpowered and quite frankly butt-ugly

Like the little fat kid in the bumble bee outfit on that one faggot Hippy video about no rain or some stupid bullshit, a sad display of hopes and dreams missplaced....

I weep for us all......  

Couldn't resist as I like that bee outfit and strive one day to own one....  

[black hills]

it is what it is, and that is all it will ever be.......

[SummerLove]

Where there is a plasma torch there is a way.  

[A41Billy]

No, the FJR is saddly a microcosim of American society as a whole, overweight, underpowered and quite frankly butt-ugly

Like the little fat kid in the bumble bee outfit on that one faggot Hippy video about no rain or some stupid bullshit, a sad display of hopes and dreams missplaced....

I weep for us all......  

Had to reply here. First off, the FJR IS a Sport-Tourer. Secondly, underpowered it is not. 145HP w/ a top speed that will exceed 150MPH. Your little Beamer has 1200cc's and barely makes 100HP. 125MPH top speed. Get some knowledge before you spew nonsense.

Little fat kid? Maybe I should add another front fender to make it prettier?  

[Kneescrubber]

Had to reply here. First off, the FJR IS a Sport-Tourer. Secondly, underpowered it is not. 145HP w/ a top speed that will exceed 150MPH. Your little Beamer has 1200cc's and barely makes 100HP. 125MPH top speed. Get some knowledge before you spew nonsense.

Little fat kid? Maybe I should add another front fender to make it prettier?  

You're new here ain't ya.  

[Orson]

Serious questions require serious answers.

[Kneescrubber]

Serious questions require serious answers.

I don't think adding another fender will solve the weight problem.

[Sarchi]

[stevent]

I don't think adding another fender will solve the weight problem.

Maybe if he drilled some holes in it.

[Mac]

Subtract your weight from the total, then add a skinner rider.

[Dan K]

Maybe if he drilled some holes in it.

That;s what I was thinking.  Shervin...?

- Dan

[2RR2NV]

with great power comes great responsibility.


don't know at level a bike magically changes over to Sport, but i had no problem doing some canyon carving. it was plenty sporty for me at the time.

[A41Billy]

I don't think adding another fender will solve the weight problem.

No, but I am sure it would be less "butt ugly" with 2 front fenders, like the GS.

[A41Billy]

You're new here ain't ya.  

Yup, 2200 less posts than you!

[bungie4]

9750cu/ft of Helium ought to do it.

[bungie4]

Maybe if he drilled some holes in it.

Ya, speed holes.

[BigBird]

Gee, I think it may already be a little lighter than my Traxxionized GL1800 with wife and dog on board?  

I have found it able to hang with all the other sport tourers I've encourtered in the 175K it's been so far.

[birdrunner]

Yup, 2200 less posts than you!

Well,  then I'd say you have some reading to do,  till then,  don't feel bad, we all agree that the FJR is a fine sporty TOURING bike.  One day when I'm old  (but not old enough for a Yellow Gold Wing), I may get one ......   naaaaaa,   I'd rather have a Miata.    




BTW,  to save you all sorts of aggravation,  let's just cut you some slake.   FJR's are the current focus of good natured jokes on this forum.  Their owners seem to be able to handle it, so we'll continue until someone blows a gasket or something.   Prior to the fat overweight FJR's, VFR's were the target, as they are just too heavy, complicated, expensive and underpowered to be taken seriously.  We'd make fun of Guzzi riders, but they'd not notice as they're all comparing Cappuccino  recipes right now.  Basically any bike bigger than a CBR1100xx is a fat pig, anything smaller is underpowered and too tiny to take seriously,  if it's not blue, it's slow,  if it's red, you're an attention whore,  loud pipes=small penis,   ....   anything I miss???

[NoGear]

I didn't even vote because there wasn't an appropriate button.......


It already is a Sport Tourer so it doesn't require to be lightened to become on.

[A41Billy]

Well,  then I'd say you have some reading to do,  till then,  don't feel bad, we all agree that the FJR is a fine sporty TOURING bike.  One day when I'm old  (but not old enough for a Yellow Gold Wing), I may get one ......   naaaaaa,   I'd rather have a Miata.    




BTW,  to say you all sorts of aggravation,  let's just cut you some slake.   FJR's are the current focus of good natured jokes on this forum.  Their owners seem to be able to handle it, so we'll continue until someone blows a gasket or something.   Prior to the fat overweight FJR's, VFR's were the target, as they are just too heavy, complicated, expensive and underpowered to be taken seriously.  We'd make fun of Guzzi riders, but they'd not notice as they're all comparing Cappuccino  recipes right now.  Basically any bike bigger than a CBR1100xx is a fat pig, anything smaller is underpowered and too tiny to take seriously,  if it's not blue, it's slow,  if it's red, you're an attention whore,  loud pipes=small penis,   ....   anything I miss???

Well I appreciate you shining the light for me!   (replaced blown "head" gasket and re-torqued my pride!)

[Kneescrubber]

Well I appreciate you shining the light for me!   (replaced blown "head" gasket and re-torqued my pride!)

It's all good.   FWIW I have a red VFR with loud TBR exhaust.  

[lrr308]

If one accelerates quickly down a steep grade the perceived weight issue will be reduced for a limited time.




And there might be a Myth busters episode on the rumored progeny due to the crossbreeding of a GS and an FJR .  

Will it really result in a light blue Miata.. or are other colors possible?  

[bassjones]

Well,  then I'd say you have some reading to do,  till then,  don't feel bad, we all agree that the FJR is a fine sporty TOURING bike.  One day when I'm old  (but not old enough for a Yellow Gold Wing), I may get one ......   naaaaaa,   I'd rather have a Miata.    




BTW,  to say you all sorts of aggravation,  let's just cut you some slake.   FJR's are the current focus of good natured jokes on this forum.  Their owners seem to be able to handle it, so we'll continue until someone blows a gasket or something.   Prior to the fat overweight FJR's, VFR's were the target, as they are just too heavy, complicated, expensive and underpowered to be taken seriously.  We'd make fun of Guzzi riders, but they'd not notice as they're all comparing Cappuccino  recipes right now.  Basically any bike bigger than a CBR1100xx is a fat pig, anything smaller is underpowered and too tiny to take seriously,  if it's not blue, it's slow,  if it's red, you're an attention whore,  loud pipes=small penis,   ....   anything I miss???

Yes, you missed that the OP of this thread is the chief FJR troll here... Nary a thread can go more than 2 pages without County making some manner of derogatory comment about the big Yamaha.

[birdrunner]

Yes, you missed that the OP of this thread is the chief FJR troll here... Nary a thread can go more than 2 pages without County making some manner of derogatory comment about the big Yamaha.

Well someone's gotta do it.

I for one appreciate it as it takes the pressure off me with dealing with you children.

[Orson]

Unless the FJR forums can get a whole buncha people over here to vote,

I think the poll results speak for themselves  

[CanadianBird]

I have a red CBR1100XX with a loud Yoshi full system. And a small penis.

[greench440]

  I'd rather have a Miata.    

I didn't know you were gay.

[Mr.Black]

haters

[Billbo]

Buddy of mine just bought an FJR. An '06, I think. Dang thing doesn't have a clutch lever! Maybe to save some weight?

[Dave.TX]

Buddy of mine just bought an FJR. An '06, I think. Dang thing doesn't have a clutch lever! Maybe to save some weight?

Oh, now you're just making things up. Next you'll say it has an automatic transmission or some fantastical drivel.

[cougar8000]

between the pipe, new battery, levers I am planning to drop about 30 lbs from the pig. But first I need to get a good deal on one soon

[birdrunner]

I didn't know you were gay.

Merely secure in my masculity.


I understand you need louder pipes.    

[county]

Yes, you missed that the OP of this thread is the chief FJR troll here... Nary a thread can go more than 2 pages without County making some manner of derogatory comment about the big Yamaha.

This is nothing but slander, a review of my comments shows they are 100% accurate.  It is not my responsibility to worry about how the hyper sensitive FJR riders perceive my presentation of facts...I may report your post.

[stevent]

This is nothing but slander, a review of my comments shows they are 100% accurate.  It is not my responsibility to worry about how the hyper sensitive FJR riders perceive my presentation of facts...I may report your post.

Let's not be hasty here, FJR riders like Harley Davidson riders show a considerable amount of loyalty to their mounts, often mistaking the excess weight and lack of power as somehow positive attributes. Much like the Buick Electra's they were patterned after they tout their girth as "road holding weight" and the mushy suspension as providing "cloud like comfort".... Can you really blame them for their naivete`? 

[bungie4]

Let's not be hasty here, FJR riders like Harley Davidson riders show a considerable amount of loyalty to their mounts, often mistaking the excess weight and lack of power as somehow positive attributes. Much like the Buick Electra's they were patterned after they tout their girth as "road holding weight" and the mushy suspension as providing "cloud like comfort".... Can you really blame them for their naivete`? 

Oh I get it, kinda like GS riders thinking their bikes are great off road right?

[Kneescrubber]

Let's face it guys. Moto Guzzi is the only safe bet.

[stevent]

Oh I get it, kinda like GS riders thinking their bikes are great off road right?

I don't recall Ewan and Charley riding FJR's around the world but I may be mistaken......

[Kneescrubber]

I don't recall Ewan and Charley and a support team of thousands riding FJR's around the world but I may be mistaken......

ftfy  

[Smoker]

BTW,  to save you all sorts of aggravation,  let's just cut you some slake.   FJR's are the current focus of good natured jokes on this forum.  Their owners seem to be able to handle it, so we'll continue until someone blows a gasket or something.   Prior to the fat overweight FJR's, VFR's were the target, as they are just too heavy, complicated, expensive and underpowered to be taken seriously.  We'd make fun of Guzzi riders, but they'd not notice as they're all comparing Cappuccino  recipes right now.  Basically any bike bigger than a CBR1100xx is a fat pig, anything smaller is underpowered and too tiny to take seriously,  if it's not blue, it's slow,  if it's red, you're an attention whore,  loud pipes=small penis,   ....   anything I miss???

Always VELCRO your STN stickers on your bike. Easy removal and re-application.

[NoGear]

Their owners seem to be able to handle it, so we'll continue until someone blows a gasket or something.

Some of you already have targeting packets completed on you....  when I get time I'll get around to the rest.....  I'll just put them in with the rest of the terrorist I'm tracking....   Oh, and don't bother trying to fly, you're already on the "No Fly" list......  

Whose FJR is fat and underpowered now biatches????    


 

[county]

  

Whose FJR is fat and underpowered now biatches????    


 

Nobody ever said the FJR was underpowered...

[Cablebandit]

So I guess you're updating the presidents personal kill list? Drone some more US citizens.  It's the new american way!

[Baz]

I don't recall Ewan and Charley riding FJR's around the world but I may be mistaken......

Of course they had loads of people following them in cars to assist with uprighting those heavy beasts every time the fell over.

[Cablebandit]

The FJR would be a lightweight compared to those overloaded GS's

[stevent]

Those two are Hollywood types, of course they needed a ton of crap and an entourage to do anything. Normal GS riders take only the standard BMW tool kit consisting of a cell phone and credit card plus a Leatherman tool on our globetrotting jaunts

 

[Mike-H]

I don't recall Ewan and Charley riding FJR's around the world but I may be mistaken......

Because KTM turned them down.....doubting their riding abilites which would make their product look bad.....(CB has yet to finish the Pair to dakar on a BMW)
.....they could've done both trips on Urals..... (Russian BMW's only faster )

[NoGear]

Nobody ever said the FJR was underpowered...

+1

[NoGear]

So I guess you're updating the presidents personal kill list? Drone some more US citizens.  It's the new american way!

Actually the Intelligence Oversight Law forbids me to target U.S. Citizens within the boundaries of the United States.   If it's part of a Federal investigation I can assist in the collection but can not keep files. The files belong to the FBI.  The rules are strictly followed by the military and most 3 letter agencies as far as I have seen.   But if you end up on the "No Fly" list even by accident then you're pretty much screwed.

[PatM]

Actually the Intelligence Oversight Law forbids me to target U.S. Citizens within the boundaries of the United States.   If it's part of a Federal investigation I can assist in the collection but can not keep files. The files belong to the FBI.  The rules are strictly followed by the military and most 3 letter agencies as far as I have seen.   But if you end up on the "No Fly" list even by accident then you're pretty much screwed.

Do all FJR bashers get on the No Fly list? Don't their wives, GF, tell them their flies are open?

[NoGear]

Do all FJR bashers get on the No Fly list? Don't their wives, GF, tell them their flies are open?

 

[PatM]

 

Attempting humour. Sometimes fail.  

[Kneescrubber]

Attempting humour. Sometimes fail.  

I got it. But then most don't get my brand of humor either.

 

[NoGear]

Attempting humour. Sometimes fail.  

I was scratching my head because I didn't think FJR Bashers had wives or girlfriends    

[mudpie]

...any bike bigger than a CBR1100xx is a fat pig, anything smaller is underpowered... if it's not blue, it's slow,  if it's red, you're an attention whore,  loud pipes=small penis

Being relatively new, it's nice to know the generally accepted rules of the group.  Reminds me of a list of personal ad definitions I saw once...

40-ish..............................49
Adventurous.....................Sleeps with everyone
Looking to settle down.......Slept with everyone, an now has an STD
Athletic............................sma ll breasts
Emotionally Secure............On medication
Outgoing..........................Loud and embarrassing
Etc.
Etc.

Like I said...good to know.  Can we assume if it's black, the owner is anti-social?

BTW, my bike has stock pipes....

FJR riders like Harley Davidson riders show a considerable amount of loyalty to their mounts

So lets see all those FJR tattoos.

And so as to not totally wander off topic, I voted.  Nice to have an option for 'maybe'.

[county]

Well, it has been several months and many votes (By motorcycle experts) and I am thus closing this poll as we have a definitive answer.

The overwhelming consensus of our motorcycle experts is that it is impossible to reduce the weight of the FJR to the point where one can sport tour on this fine touring machine.

I want to thank everyone for their help in answering this question.  A white paper will be published shortly.

[Smoker]

But I just took my highway pegs off!!

[Ack535]

County, why are you so full of hate? Don't be...

[stevent]

Wait !! I have a different bike now, can I change my vote?????      

[FJRider]

Well, it has been several months and many votes (By motorcycle experts) and I am thus closing this poll as we have a definitive answer.

The overwhelming consensus of our motorcycle experts is that it is impossible to reduce the weight of the FJR to the point where one can sport tour on this fine touring machine.

I want to thank everyone for their help in answering this question.  A white paper will be published shortly.

A BMW is a nice bike. The engine design is older than Harley's V-Twin. A real blast from the past.

I almost bought a BMW R1200RT. But the FJR has way more HP, has better reliability, has better build quality, has lower cost of ownership, is much faster, handles much better, has better brakes, better lighting, better instrument panel, and was more comfortable. Other than that I almost went with the Beemer.

[sprint_st]

Well, it has been several months and many votes (By motorcycle experts) and I am thus closing this poll as we have a definitive answer.

The overwhelming consensus of our motorcycle experts is that it is impossible to reduce the weight of the FJR to the point where one can sport tour on this fine touring machine.

I want to thank everyone for their help in answering this question.  A white paper will be published shortly.

Had an FJR, got a Tiger 1050 just to lose 150 or so pounds.  Fact is though, a well ridden FJR flat leave average rider "sport" bikes.  The FJR needs new forks and a real shock.  If you want a sport bike that you will go touring on that's one thing, but the FJR is, as has been said a great sport tourer.  A Gixxer with a shit load of crap strapped to it is a sport tourer too, just a crappy one.  The FJR was a helluva lot more work to push through twisties than the Tiger.  Then again I've seen sport bikes have problems chasing a fully loaded GS.  This was kindofa troll question wasn't it  

[Mike-H]

This is nothing but slander, a review of my comments shows they are 100% accurate.  It is not my responsibility to worry about how the hyper sensitive FJR riders perceive my presentation of facts...I may report your post.

Sez the guy riding a pretend sport bike & and even more pretend dirt bike

[GRN]

Can you reduce the weight of an FJR enough to make it a sport-tourer?

It depends on how you chose, or allow the marketing machine to chose for you how "sport-touring" is defined. I've had ST bikes that were heavier, and ST bikes that were lighter, the only thing the weight changed is how much pressure I put on the bars.