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« on: April 19, 2012, 03:23:20 PM »

I have a seller committed to buy my KLR650, so I'm in full swing to get something else.  My only real requirements are that it is powerful enough for my commute on the freeway, as well as comfortable enough at those speeds.  Ease of maintenance needs to be tagged onto those.  This last requirement is what made me consider Harley as a viable option.  What's not to love about an 883's great gas mileage, hydraulic lifters, belt drive and no plastic to take off?

I've been to the Harley showroom before and always thought the sportsters were uncomfortable so I went into this with the idea that the 883 would be down on power and not a fit for me ergonomically.  Demo's are free though.  What the heck.  I went online and requested to ride what I personally believe to be the best looking sportster in the line up, the Iron 883.  After a prompt email exchange and phone call, my demo was scheduled.  The Harley sales staff was great! (unlike the Suzuki dealership that has yet to call me back because I've requested a quote on a 2012 DL650)  The paperwork was painless and quick.  After a brief explanation of how the bike worked, I was off.

"This thing is a pig, but I like it," was my very first thought.

The bar on the Iron is not as wide as my KLR650 and Goldwing.  Also, the weight didn't necessarily feel down low like a bike with a boxer engine.  It just felt heavy and not as easy to maneuver.  I feel as if this is more a matter of me learning the bike because it is a departure from the kind of machine I've been riding the past 3 years.  The weight was an advantage in so far as I felt very planted in corners.

The stock rear view mirrors were useless.  Extensions would be needed.

The bike definitely let's you know it is on and running.  The Iron really begins to vibrate down low when revved out on the freeway.  At 70 mph, the pegs were shaking significantly.  I'm not sure if I'd be able to ride more than 20 minutes at speeds over 70 mph without my feet falling asleep.  Strangely enough, my hands felt fine.

The bike reaches 70 mph easily and I suspect it is capable of running at 75-80 mph all day.  However, I don't think I would be on the bike to enjoy it.  The wind blast above 65 mph is significant.  I'm used to riding through some crazy high winds, but nothing prepared me for feeling as if I was going to be blown right off the back of the Iron.  If I were to own this bike for commuting, I would have to get a wind screen.

Another thing that I'd have to get the hang of are the turn signals.  I kept accelerating slightly when reaching a thumb over for the right turn signal.

The bike seemed like to stop just fine for its weight.  However, I may be a poor judge.  My '81 Goldwing and '09 KLR both are not known for stellar brakes.

Surprisingly, the little seat and pegs (below 65 mph) were really comfortable for me.  I completely did not expect to be comfortable on the Iron at any speed.

I can see why people buy new suspension for the Iron (or Low).  The thing notified you of every nook, cranny and bump in the road.

The bottom line:
As a serious commuter for the distances and speeds that I need to go, the Iron doesn't make sense.  It would need way too much to work.  However, if I had money for a commuter and back road bomber/street cruiser, I'd snatch this thing.  It is a great looking bike and is fun to ride.  I'm really disappointed that I'm so damn practical.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 03:35:38 PM »

Thanks for the review. If I had the spare cash for a boulevard cruiser I'd grab one; I think they look cool as hell. But for all the things I ask of my bike, daily commuter, day tripper, and occasional long ride it wouldn't work. Still love the blacked out look though....
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 06:11:00 PM »

I must be on the wrong forum. I didn't realize this was the Sport Commuting website.





















I almost forgot. Where does the sport part come in on a Sportster?
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 06:15:54 PM »


I must be on the wrong forum. I didn't realize this was the sport-COMMUTING website.
Fixed it for you.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 06:34:21 PM »


Fixed it for you.


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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 07:16:50 PM »

Hmmm....I'll own that one.  I swear the label for this portion of the forum used to be General Discussion.

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 03:11:02 AM »

How were the BREAKS?
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 03:32:05 AM »

Try the XR1200-you might find it fits the bill.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 04:26:17 AM »

I did some touring on a 883 Sportster back when I was a young buck.  That is truly a bare bones way to do things.  It takes tenacity.  I'd do it again, who says it has to make sense.  The naked bikes from England, Europe and Japan are much more refined and easy to ride, but also are not as raw as the Sportster.  The limited cornering clearance was my biggest gripe - it seemed to scrape everywhere.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 04:42:43 AM »


How were the BREAKS?
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I'm sure the BREAKS were nice and relaxing. The BRAKES on a Sportster though, are just adequate.  Wink

I used to own a Sportster and as-delivered, the only thing that was truely horrendous was the suspension, everything else was "adequate". If Harley would put even the tiniest bit of effort into the Sportster it could be an absolutely great bike. As it comes off the line though it needs about $1-2000 worth of upgrades to take care of some glaring faults.

To the OP: If you liked the Sportster you may want to try riding a 1200. The 883's have shorter gearing wich does make them spin pretty high at highway speeds. A 1200 may be less "vibe-y" on the road for you.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 04:45:22 AM »

The only real problem is it is an 883.  AKA girls bike.  In the HD world, you would get the same respect as a woman rider on the 883.  One of the guys that work for me bought a night train 883.  He was teasted so much for having a girls bike, he traded it in after three months and bought a crossbones.  

Admittedly, I am not an HD kinda guy, but his crossbones bike is cool.

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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 05:04:19 AM »


The only real problem is it is an 883.  AKA girls bike.  In the HD world, you would get the same respect as a woman rider on the 883.  One of the guys that work for me bought a night train 883.  He was teasted so much for having a girls bike, he traded it in after three months and bought a crossbones.  

Admittedly, I am not an HD kinda guy, but his crossbones bike is cool.




Me thinks you're a bit confused.
The Nightrain is a "big twin" model. The only bike offered in an 883 is the Sportster.

I always got a chuckle out of the “girls bike” comments. The Sportster is probably the “manliest” bike in Harley’s lineup; it’s rough, it’s crude and riding any kind of distance on it has about the same effect on your body as an all-day cage fight. Any powder-puff can ride a big cushy softail or Road King, it takes a man to endure a Sportster. Lol

Sounds like your employee has some self confidence issues.
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I'm sure the BREAKS were nice and relaxing. The BRAKES on a Sportster though, are just adequate.  Wink

I used to own a Sportster and as-delivered, the only thing that was truely horrendous was the suspension, everything else was "adequate". If Harley would put even the tiniest bit of effort into the Sportster it could be an absolutely great bike. As it comes off the line though it needs about $1-2000 worth of upgrades to take care of some glaring faults.

To the OP: If you liked the Sportster you may want to try riding a 1200. The 883's have shorter gearing wich does make them spin pretty high at highway speeds. A 1200 may be less "vibe-y" on the road for you.


I think every HD needs a couple grand in work right off the showroom floor. They sell you all the aftermarket Screaming Eagle crap to get it up to 60 hp.

I never understood the "girls bike" deal with the Sportie. A guy I work with had a 1200 and someone told him it was a girl's bike, so he went out and bought this pig of a Fat Boy that the 1200 could run circles around.
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I always got a chuckle out of the “girls bike” comments. The Sportster is probably the “manliest” bike in Harley’s lineup; it’s rough, it’s crude and riding any kind of distance on it has about the same effect on your body as an all-day cage fight. Any powder-puff can ride a big cushy softail or Road King, it takes a man to endure a Sportster. Lol


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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2012, 06:59:51 AM »


How were the BREAKS?
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I hope the BREAKS were as nice as the TEST ROAD you did.

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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2012, 08:44:29 AM »




Thank goodness for the open-minded folks among us.  Bigok


At your service, as always.  Bigsmile
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Ain't that the truth!  Lol  Withstupid


I really like the Roland Sands cafe conversion pieces for the Sporty.  http://www.rolandsands.com/topics/sportsters/




 Drool   What a great looking bike!

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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 09:41:25 AM »

With no front fender, those "frontal parts" are going to fill up pretty fast. Cool
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 11:46:20 AM »

I move fast so the point is now moot. I just put down a deposit on a 2012 Vstrom 650 Adventure onto to which I added heated grips, hand guards and an outlet. My OTD price will be less than a new Harley 1200 Sportster.
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2012, 12:16:43 PM »

Congrats on the new Wee. I really want to test-ride the re-design, as I see a smaller bike in my future.

A Sportster note:  I had a Sportster Sport, the only Sporty that came with good, adjustable suspension. I did some hot-rodding of the engine, and it was a fun ride. Just always felt like it was beating itself to death at 75mph on long trips, which is why I finally sold it.
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2012, 12:23:24 PM »


How you're using moot is actually the secondary meaning. The primary mean is "open to discussion".

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So, let's discuss this Sportster thing...  Bigsmile Lol Lol Lol




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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2012, 01:18:06 PM »

On a Sporty how difficult is it to move the pegs where they belong? Everyone I see has birther pegs.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2012, 01:26:17 PM »


How you're using moot is actually the secondary meaning. The primary mean is "open to discussion".

moot
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So, let's discuss this Sportster thing...  Bigsmile Lol Lol Lol




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If something's a moot point, there's some disagreement about it: a debatable point. In the U.S., this expression usually means that there is no point in debating something, because it just doesn't matter. An example: If you are arguing over whether to go the beach or to the park, but you find out the car won't start and you can't go anywhere, then the destination is said to be a moot point.

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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2012, 02:20:21 PM »


On a Sporty how difficult is it to move the pegs where they belong? Everyone I see has birther pegs.


I'd say most Sportsters start off with mid controls. One of the most common first mods owners do though is "fix" them by putting on forwards. That means it should be pretty easy to pick up the mids off of Craigslist for a song since nobody seems to want them anyway.

If you're at all interested in a Sportster I might recommend looking for an "R" (Roadster) model of the 2004+ vintage. Rubber mount engines, dual disc front brakes, mid controls and a more sensible ride height makes them about the best "traditional" looking Sportster ever made. The Sportster "Sport" had better suspenders but the solid mount engines can be a bit much. Of course, Harley killed both of these models since no one will ever need more than 1.5" of travel anyway.  
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2012, 02:30:30 PM »

Add Sportster Sport (or other better) shocks and Vance&Hines 2-into1 exhaust and you're good to go.  Wink Fork brace helps as well.

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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 03:05:12 PM »

You guys can call me names but I really dig this.  Bigok

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You guys can call me names but I really dig this.  Bigok



That is a sweeet looking bike. Harley or not. Very nice.  Bigsmile
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I hope the BREAKS were as nice as the TEST ROAD you did.




My thoughts exactly when I saw the title.   Lol
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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2012, 06:42:28 PM »

Yeah...not my finest moment. Eh...
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Yeah...not my finest moment. Eh...


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I'm sure the BREAKS were nice and relaxing. The BRAKES on a Sportster though, are just adequate.  Wink



That was an attempt at some light hearted humor as the OP Test ROAD a Sporty. Sorry, back on topic.
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That was an attempt at some light hearted humor as the OP Test ROAD a Sporty. Sorry, back on topic.
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I for one, got it - seems it went over the heads of others.

That's why mine was a little less subtle.

Next.....
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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2012, 11:29:20 AM »




+1

Also, many dealers will give you mid controls free of charge as they just sit on the shelf after being taken off when "real bikers" want the forward controls added on.


The mid pegs on my Dyna were actually really uncomfortable because they are still not under you.
The problem was they put your knees up too high which puts a strain on your hips and locks them in position.
And there I was thinking that they were the way to go..
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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2012, 01:05:17 PM »


I move fast so the point is now moot. I just put down a deposit on a 2012 Vstrom 650 Adventure onto to which I added heated grips, hand guards and an outlet. My OTD price will be less than a new Harley 1200 Sportster.


Good choice!!  You will not be disappointed with a Wee.  
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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2012, 03:02:31 PM »


I move fast so the point is now moot. I just put down a deposit on a 2012 Vstrom 650 Adventure onto to which I added heated grips, hand guards and an outlet. My OTD price will be less than a new Harley 1200 Sportster.


Great decision Bigsmile
Now you have a real motorcycle.

Never understand the Harley thing Headscratch. My buddies down the street ask me if I would like to go to Myrtle Beach Week last year... ask them what routes were you guys taking on the way down? they told me 95 & we are taking the bikes down on a trailer Headscratch They have these huge Harleys with cup holders radio, full fairings ETC.. Told them no. why spend your time on a bike in the heat with a huge crowd with no turns? I will say this Harleys do hold there value very well. I bought two Triumphs for the price of a used Sportster Speed Four for me and a Speedmaster for me & my wife love every mile Bigsmile
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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2012, 10:12:43 AM »




Great decision Bigsmile
Now you have a real motorcycle.



You mis-read.  He did NOT get the Harley.
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2012, 04:00:34 AM »




Great decision Bigsmile
Now you have a real motorcycle.

Never understand the Harley thing Headscratch. My buddies down the street ask me if I would like to go to Myrtle Beach Week last year... ask them what routes were you guys taking on the way down? they told me 95 & we are taking the bikes down on a trailer Headscratch They have these huge Harleys with cup holders radio, full fairings ETC.. Told them no. why spend your time on a bike in the heat with a huge crowd with no turns? I will say this Harleys do hold there value very well. I bought two Triumphs for the price of a used Sportster Speed Four for me and a Speedmaster for me & my wife love every mile Bigsmile


There is a spring pirate fest in OCMD this weekend. One of my friends is riding down Friday, a nice day ride that'll end up being 250 miles round trip. Head down, have some lunch, check out the sites, ride back. A friend of his says on facebook "I'll be heading down for the weekend, I'm trailering my bike down". The guy lives 2 hrs from OCMD!
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2012, 04:40:17 AM »




There is a spring pirate fest in OCMD this weekend. One of my friends is riding down Friday, a nice day ride that'll end up being 250 miles round trip. Head down, have some lunch, check out the sites, ride back. A friend of his says on facebook "I'll be heading down for the weekend, I'm trailering my bike down". The guy lives 2 hrs from OCMD!


The first and only time I've been to OC bike week I was completely shocked at how many trailers I saw with MD plates.  I mean come on! The state simply isn't THAT big?!?!?!

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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2012, 06:17:54 AM »

I thought all new Harleys came with a trailer.  Might as well use it if you have it.
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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2012, 08:40:40 AM »


I thought all new Harleys came with a trailer.  Might as well use it if you have it.


I think your confusing them with Kawasakis...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Desmolicious/concours.jpg
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« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2012, 05:20:34 PM »




I think your confusing them with Kawasakis...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Desmolicious/concours.jpg


I bet you a dollar he's not getting ready to head to bike week... that is clearly an "I broke down" trailer.  :pokestick:

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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2012, 09:44:15 AM »




I bet you a dollar he's not getting ready to head to bike week... that is clearly an "I broke down" trailer.  :pokestick:




Well, Kawis are less reliable than Harleys.
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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2012, 11:06:29 AM »




Judging from the experiences I've had owning both marques, I can whole-heartedly agree.

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1984 GPZ 500 - it fried its CDI twice.  Total mileage about 50K
1987 ZX10 - fried its alternator.  Total mileage about 30K
1991 ZX11 - no issues
KLR650 (2003?  I forget) failed fuel tank  and intermittent ignition issues. Total mileage about 6K

2009 Harley Dyna - no issues apart from a severe allergic reaction to a Subaru...
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« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2012, 01:49:13 PM »




 I rather hate the Harley-Guy lifestyle.  Rolleyes


Which is why I was selling mine..
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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2012, 05:12:43 PM »


I move fast so the point is now moot. I just put down a deposit on a 2012 Vstrom 650 Adventure onto to which I added heated grips, hand guards and an outlet. My OTD price will be less than a new Harley 1200 Sportster.

That should put you to sleep faster than a 55 gallon drum of Valium.  Wink
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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2012, 05:23:43 PM »



That should put you to sleep faster than a 55 gallon drum of Valium.  Wink


Ummm... Yeah since its a Vtwin it must be boring.
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