Your bikes are used up after 10K miles!

[sagerat]

"Honey, here's proof I need to buy a new bike."  

Never underestimate the amount of moronic "facts" that see the printed page or an internet website.  

[Kat-Rider]

I guess my local shop can see both sides of the story.  When I was trying to talk to them about new tires for the bike they said that 40k was just getting broke in good for my bike. When I talked to them about trading in my bike they called 40k very high mileage.

[Silverbird]

It really is incredible how long a high performance engine will last. I bet the internals of those         200,000 mile + bikes look just fine.  Justy goes to show it the other stuff that will wear out. All the crazy electronics on the new bikes concerns me. I don't see all that new wizardry holding up for that many miles and will the bike even be operational if the electronics on the bike have crapped the bed?  

[Kat-Rider]

I would bet a lot of it is also how you treat the bike.  10k of spirited riding and regular service vs 10k of burnouts and neglect.
I have seen some pretty poor looking bikes that are only a couple years old.

[black hills]

I guess my local shop can see both sides of the story.  When I was trying to talk to them about new tires for the bike they said that 40k was just getting broke in good for my bike. When I talked to them about trading in my bike they called 40k very high mileage.

I had the same issue when I traded the 954 in. the salesman said he knows it is just broken in, but buyers see 50k as very high mileage, specially ona sport bike. He gave me a decent trade and one of thier mechanics ended up with it.

[jfurf]

I just checked out Super Street Bike's website and found this:

It's an article where the mag's writers go into dealerships posing as new riders to see what the salespeople tell them.

http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/1204_sbkp_sportbike_dealership_dilemmas/index.html

Sean: On a Saturday afternoon, I approached a salesman in regards to purchasing my first bike. I made it clear that I had no riding experience but liked the way sportbikes looked. After discussing what felt the most comfortable he brought me out to a recently traded-in 2008 GSX-R750 that would be the “perfect bike for me.” It came equipped with a full Yoshimura exhaust, Power Commander and Pazzo levers (quickly toting the high price but hesitantly pronouncing the brand name). Repeatedly, he expressed the benefits of using, “what they call an A, B, C switch” for its ability to “clip the nuts off the bike,” until I was ready for full power. He gave me absolute reassurance that this was the bike to start on for the room it left its rider to grow. We then made our way back into the showroom where he pointed out R6s to GSX-R1000s as if fishing for where my eyes would light up brightest. That is when I asked about the brand new S1000RRs sitting on the wall. I saw a steaming pile of BS fall from his lips and transform into words at that moment: “An S1000 is actually better than a 600 for a beginner because all of the electronics. It will slowly feed in the power on lower modes and all the California Superbike School instructors teach their new riders on this bike—it’s just expensive.”

[wibornz]

Just broke 50,000 the last week.  Seams as the bike has been used up five times.  My goal is to hit 200,000 on it before I buy a new one.  

[jeepinbanditrider]

I just checked out Super Street Bike's website and found this:

It's an article where the mag's writers go into dealerships posing as new riders to see what the salespeople tell them.

http://www.superstreetbike.com/features/1204_sbkp_sportbike_dealership_dilemmas/index.html

Interesting article there for sure.  

[Rogue]

I would bet a lot of it is also how you treat the bike.  10k of spirited riding and regular service vs 10k of burnouts and neglect.
I have seen some pretty poor looking bikes that are only a couple years old.

I just rode with another rider with a 3-yr old bike and 13k miles and his bike looked beat up.  Sun, wind, and rain, plus zero TLC on the finish, and ham-fisted "customization" work along with haphazard choice of aftermarket components = beat up looking bike.

[cultureslayer]

I just rode with another rider with a 3-yr old bike and 13k miles and his bike looked beat up.  Sun, wind, and rain, plus zero TLC on the finish, and ham-fisted "customization" work along with haphazard choice of aftermarket components = beat up looking bike.

My bike looks like it's been dragged through the mountains and back, but mechanically it's in great shape.  I call it theft proofing, and don't care since I paid $500 for it and have put 16k on it.  Hit 30k yesterday.  

But if I'd bought the bike new and it looked like that in three years, I'd reconsider riding.

[Mortech]

DAMN, I knew it! , I really got bent over when I bought my Concours with 63K miles on it for a measly $1999 !
Note : I use car oil in it too , Castrol GTX full synthetic .

[wibornz]

DAMN, I knew it! , I really got bent over when I bought my Concours with 63K miles on it for a measly $1999 !
Note : I use car oil in it too , Castrol GTX full synthetic .

Your fucked.........O wait it's a Kawasaki.  You should be ok.

[jay547]

i just turned 30k this morning. bought it 1 1/2 years ago with 6k.

[Morgan Buchanan]

The reason 40k is "high mileage" when you're selling is because of the perception they shop will face when they are selling your old bike as a used bike... because of squidward idiot articles like the one referenced in this thread, the general public (read moronic sheep) BELIEVES that 40K is "ultra high mileage" on a motorcycle.

Perception is reality, and the reality is, it's harder to sell a used bike with 40K miles on it than the same used bike with 4K miles on it.

[expatbrit]

Almost 10K on the Duc. Damn; can't sell it, will have to keep it. What a shame!

I did get feedback from a local dealer that, somehow, 10K is the magic number. Any (used) bike with more than that they consider 'hard to sell', since buyers just do have the impression that it's high mileage.

[atadaskew]

I think the perception that anything above 10K is a hard sell in the US is because they are mainly used as toys here.  And because of that it is really easy to find low mileage bikes.
Given the choice, I'd buy a low mileage used bike over a higher mileage one, all else being equal.  And usually it is not.  Almost all the low mileage bikes I've seen have been in much better shape than the ridden long/hard/put away wet higher mileage bikes.

[Morgan Buchanan]

I think the perception that anything above 10K is a hard sell in the US is because they are mainly used as toys here.  And because of that it is really easy to find low mileage bikes.
Given the choice, I'd buy a low mileage used bike over a higher mileage one, all else being equal.  And usually it is not.  Almost all the low mileage bikes I've seen have been in much better shape than the ridden long/hard/put away wet higher mileage bikes.

That's true often, but there are "circumstances" you need to look at.  In 2009 I bought a 2001 ZX11 with 2500 miles on it.  NOTHING but the oil had EVER been changed.  Not the tires, not the radiator, not the battery, not the brake/clutch....

[morgeen]

Wow!!! That was awesome. I wish my bike could go though all that way.

[zer0netgain]

The latest issue of Super Street Bike (May, p.67) remarks that at 10K miles a streetbike's engine is done.  That it's the equivalent to 100K on a car.  It's past peak.  They say "avoid the 10K mark like the plague."    

If the owner(s) of a street bike ride like squids...that's probably sound advice.  By the time it reaches 10K the bike's probably been ruined and never maintained.