leos

[ninjaridaz]

If on a group ride, and johnny law decides to pull you over, does that mean everyone else has to follow suit and pull over too? I would not think so.

[sodapop6620]

I think that depends on the state.  If I was not the last one in the line I would continue on and make him pull me over.  They will make it known to you.



I have a question for Mr/Mrs. Leo: how many miles do you folks log in a year?

[Kneescrubber]

If on a group ride, and johnny law decides to pull up behind you, does that mean everyone else does too? I would not think so.

Your question/statement makes no sense.  

[Tango59]

It would probably be best for the rest of the group to ride ahead a bit farther and pull over to wait for the one that was stopped. I've had a similar incident happen with several people in cars and it made me more than jumpy.  County, you can comment now.

[OmegaSix]

I am an individual motor-vehicle operator under all circumstances.
If a LEO wants to pull me over he can come pull ME over.
He can pull his vehicle in IMMEDIATELY behind mine, activate his emergency lights and sound alerts - thereby signalling his desire that I pull over at the nearest safe location where he can make professional contact with me.
He can also - very stupidly - attempt to pull me over by standing in front of me, pointing at me and indicating that he would like me to pull over.   That's gonna be tough if I am following a vehicle two seconds in front of me, but if he wants to try it - more power to him.
Maybe I will, maybe I won't - my choice - whatever, I goddamned sure am never pulling over for a police officer flashing lights and sirens at a vehicle other than mine.
Period.

[sodapop6620]

He can also - very stupidly - attempt to pull me over by standing in front of me, pointing at me and indicating that he would like me to pull over.

Have you have been to Maryland?  That seems the way they do it there.

[Formerly Known as Bigfoot]

I am an individual motor-vehicle operator under all circumstances.
If a LEO wants to pull me over he can come pull ME over.
He can pull his vehicle in IMMEDIATELY behind mine, activate his emergency lights and sound alerts - thereby signalling his desire that I pull over at the nearest safe location where he can make professional contact with me.
He can also - very stupidly - attempt to pull me over by standing in front of me, pointing at me and indicating that he would like me to pull over.   That's gonna be tough if I am following a vehicle two seconds in front of me, but if he wants to try it - more power to him.
Maybe I will, maybe I won't - my choice - whatever, I goddamned sure am never pulling over for a police officer flashing lights and sirens at a vehicle other than mine.
Period.

You tell em hero.  

[county]

You tell em hero.  

I think the real hero's are those brave men and women who serve us all in the capacity of Law Enforcement Officers...

[ninjaridaz]

I think the real hero's are those brave men and women who serve us all in the capacity of Law Enforcement Officers...

Not all brave and certainly not all heroes.

[Bounce]

A couple of us were riding together.

LEO lit "me" up. I radioed the other guy and told him to keep going. I'd meet him at a gas station at the next town.

I ate the ticket.

I'd expect him to do the same the next time.  Friends don't make friends go down with the ship.

[Formerly Known as Bigfoot]

If on a group ride, and johnny law decides to pull up behind you, does that mean everyone else does too? I would not think so.

After reading some of this guys posts I believe Shah is back.

[Mr.Black]

I got this one,











Fuckin' cops.

[Rogue]

Years ago I was riding along with another rider (who was a bit aggressive on the throttle).  This rider had already gotten a ticket just hours before for speeding so nerves where jumpy.  I had verbally warned this rider to "take it easy" or I would split up and not continue riding.  I was leading on this particular section of the freeway, when we got lit up at 70 in a 65 by a CHP.  Seriously.  Since I was leading I wasn't sure whether to pull over or not so I slowed but continued on thinking the other rider would pull over behind me.  But the rider behind me would NOT pull over!  WTF!    

I remember thinking this over and over and wondering what to do.  I think we kept on going for a mile.  So I slowed down but this other rider just shadowed me, as if to say if I don't pull over neither would he and vice versa.  I thought that was pretty fucked up for a so called "friend" to do.  I finally pulled over for the sake of not having a whole rash of CHP's setting up a roadblock for us.  Both of us got the ticket.  Suffice it to say I never rode with that person ever again.

If you're Tail End Charlie and the LEO has you lit up, pull over.  If the LEO passes you and goes after the point man then you are good to go. If the LEO stops behind you then you will have to take the ticket.        

[Andrew]

OK Rogue, let me get this straight;
You were leading the ride
You set the pace over the speed limit
Your group got "lit up"
  And you don't think you deserved a ticket

Well lets follow that logic shall we

  If you want to speed and not get tickets, get a "friend" or fellow rider to follow you. After all if you get "lit up" the tail gunner gets the rap and you get away

So Rogue want to follow me on a ride, I'll be glad to wait up at the next town


In all honesty you got lit up in a 65 doing 70, seriously WTF is up with that  I've been doing 75 in a 65 and got a friendly wave by the CHP, you must have some over zealous chippies (Spell check wants to change that into hippies  )  down there

[2RR2NV]

don't really matter to me. the only time i was riding in a group (3), we all pulled over at the exit of the state park  cause they were, basically, waiting for us. and we were doing 45 in a 35 coming out of the corner after a hill. he had his lights on the moment we came around the corner. he got radioed from another Ranger inside the park (that we were coming) who didn't pull us over but had his lights on.  wondered if it was for us or to warn folks about crossing animals (saw a deer jump across the road right behind the tail rider). the gate ranger was pretty cool about it. didn't give us tickets, thank gosh. and warned us about future speedy travels thru "HIS" park.

I'm a nice guy so i will more than likely pull over with my riding buddies. riding with buds, you take a chance of getting pulled over with the rest.

[Kneescrubber]

This one is turning bad fast.  

[Southwade]

OK Rogue, let me get this straight;
You were leading the ride
You set the pace over the speed limit
Your group got "lit up"
  And you don't think you deserved a ticket

Well lets follow that logic shall we

  If you want to speed and not get tickets, get a "friend" or fellow rider to follow you. After all if you get "lit up" the tail gunner gets the rap and you get away

So Rogue want to follow me on a ride, I'll be glad to wait up at the next town


In all honesty you got lit up in a 65 doing 70, seriously WTF is up with that  I've been doing 75 in a 65 and got a friendly wave by the CHP, you must have some over zealous chippies (Spell check wants to change that into hippies  )  down there

If you speed and get caught you deserve a ticket. You're not under any obligation to keep up with the pack.

Ride your own ride, don't let someone else ride it for you.

[ksann]

OK Rogue, let me get this straight;
You were leading the ride
You set the pace over the speed limit
Your group got "lit up"
  And you don't think you deserved a ticket

Well lets follow that logic shall we

  If you want to speed and not get tickets, get a "friend" or fellow rider to follow you. After all if you get "lit up" the tail gunner gets the rap and you get away

So Rogue want to follow me on a ride, I'll be glad to wait up at the next town


In all honesty you got lit up in a 65 doing 70, seriously WTF is up with that  I've been doing 75 in a 65 and got a friendly wave by the CHP, you must have some over zealous chippies (Spell check wants to change that into hippies  )  down there

I was on that ride, and it was a lot more complex than he simplified it into.

I respect and think appropriate what Rogue did. And will happily ride with him again.



ken

[zer0netgain]

Hard and fast rule that I like to have known on group rides....don't like it, do your own thing....

We don't practice "group punishment."  The only thing worse than one guy getting a ticket on a ride is everyone getting a ticket on a ride.

If you get pulled over, everyone else will continue on and stop somewhere safe up the road and wait for you.  The cops can pull over who they want.  If they want the whole group, they will be set up for just that, but it isn't the norm in most places.

We have enough LEOs in our groups to know that the whole group pulling over will likely escalate things just on the basis that the one cop will be vastly outnumbered and he/she will presume the worst.

You don't rat out other people in the group ride...even if some of them were riding like ass hats and likely got the cop's attention.

[Bounce]

In all honesty you got lit up in a 65 doing 70, seriously WTF is up with that

+1 is speeding and discretionary to the LEO.  I've been pulled over for +3 with in-state tags. the myth of up to +8 being a pass is just that... a myth.