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« on: August 16, 2012, 09:52:08 PM »

For years now, I've been using a set of Sony Bluetooth earbuds/phone remote when I ride. They've been OK for listening to my XM unit, or my phone, but, of course, far from perfect. The phone is pretty much unusable since all the other person can hear is the whoosh of wind, and me, faintly, screaming like a maniac.

So, after saving up for a few weeks, I plonked down $289 for a Scala Rider G9 Bluetooth unit from Cardo Systems.  For a price that steep, I thought, it better work great.

Happily, I can now report to you that it does.

The G9 is the latest and greatest from Cardo Systems, and they claim lots of great features for it.

Talk time: up to 13 hours, Standby time: 7 days, Charging time: 3 hours, Radio on time: 8-10 hours

Certified Waterproof and Dustproof

Intercom conferencing with up to 4 other scala rider users (up to 1.6 km in Full Duplex)

Mobile Phone Conference Mode (rider, passenger, outside caller)

Built-in FM radio with RDS, 6 station presets and smart auto scan

iPhone Compatible

Up to 1 mile / 1.6 km Bike-to-Bike intercom with flip-up antenna for extended range

Well, I can't speak to the 1 mile range on intercom, as I don't know anybody else with one, but I can verify that, as a phone/mp3/gps bluetooth system, it works, and works well.

First off, unlike some of the other bluetooth systems, the G9 is fully iPhone compatible, and transmits great stereo using iPhone proprietary (of course) bluetooth system. If it works with iPhone/iPod's maddening "We don't follow the standard everyone else in the industry does" arrogance, it'll work great with an Android phone, too.

The unit itself comes in two pieces. One piece is the mounting bracket, which contains both the boom microphone and ear speakers, and the other piece is the removable Bluetooth control unit. In addition to the boom microphone, the system comes with a wired microphone, which is useful for mounting on the chinbar of a full-face helmet. The boom mic works better with modular or other than full-face helmets.

You have two mounting options. There is a clamp mount which fits between the outer shell and padding of the helmet, but, if that's not a possibility, the unit also includes an external glue mount. But, a warning about the glue mount: it's permanent, and uses a bonding epoxy that, given 24 hours to cure, will be a permanent fixture on the helmet.

Once mounted, the speaker wires are run under the padding of the helmet to the ear cutouts in the padding. Since many helmets now come with speaker pouches built into the helmets, the speakers will fit quite nicely in there. The boom mike is mounted on a plastic coated metal gooseneck that's plenty long and flexible enough to reach your mouth.

My helmet is a Shark Evoline 2 modular, so there aren't speaker mounts, but I was able to pull out the cheek pads, and cut out the earhole padding, giving me the perfect spot to mount the speakers on the included Velcro pads that can be stuck to the helmet's inner shell. There's plenty of room with the padding removed so that the speakers don't uncomfortably press on my ears. The speakers themselves are fairly small and thin, with reasonably substantial wires connecting them to the mounting unit.

The Bluetooth control unit slides onto the mount, and is removable for recharging. The rubber-covered control buttons are large and chunky, which makes them easy to manipulate with gloved hands. each button has multiple functions, which depend on tapping or pressing and holding the button to activate different functions.

Connecting the Bluetooth control to a phone is fairly easy and painless, and it mates in seconds.

Once on the road, you can listen to the built-in FM radio, your iPod/iPhone music, skip tracks, change the volume, make a phone call, or listen to your GPS, either via the buttons on the Bluetooth control unit, or via voice command. For instance, saying "Radio On" activates the G9's built-in FM radio.

Which brings me to a drawback. If you start singing along to your iTunes, or start yelling at something infuriating you hear on talk radio, the G9 will shut everything down to listen to what you have to say, so it doesn't miss your voice command. So, you have to remain silent, and just scream in your mind, instead of using your outside voice.

The sound is surprisingly loud, so you don't have to turn the unit all the way up to listen to it. Just set it to a comfortable volume before you hit the road. As you go rise along, and the ambient noise changes, the G9 will raise and lower the volume appropriately, so you don't always have to fiddle with the volume buttons, and you can still hear clearly.

Music sounds good on the speakers, although, given their size, some might argue that they don't have quite enough bass response. That's inherent with any small speaker size, though. There's a reason your home stereo speakers have 12- or 15-inch woofers, after all. I would dismiss this quibble, as the wind noise inside even the best helmets are going to destroy any pretense of audiophile-level sound quality anyway. Personally, I think the sound quality is very good for such small speakers, and I don't find them tinny at all. Indeed, I had to turn them down on the highway, because they can get uncomfortably loud.

The really important thing I noticed is that, unlike noise-canceling earbuds, you aren't completely cut off from the outside world.  You have a better sense of situational awareness of the other sounds on the road.

To me, when you couple that with the usable volume and quality of the speaker sound, makes the Scala Rider G9 the best of both worlds.
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 03:40:03 AM »

Thank you for the review.  I myself ordered one on Wednesday.  I searched here & didn't find much information but your review is making me feel better about my purchase.  

I purchased mine for the same reason you did.  I'm tired of listening to ear buds & would like the ability to skip tracks, change the volumn or mute everything when I need to speak to someone at a red light.   Cool
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 06:50:13 AM »

BEWARE!  My G4 had a failure at 30 months making it unusable.  Cardo did nothing to help.  Thread in the "Gadgets" forum for your review.

Your $290 may not last as long as you would like (although I do hope the two of you have better luck than I did).

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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 10:04:48 AM »

Surprisingly mine arrived today.  I'm charging it now, will install it into my helmet this evening & will post up my thoughts sometime thus weekend
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 11:43:15 AM »

I am using a Q2 still and it has a function to shut off the voice activation. I would be surprised if the G9 did not have this as well.

I understand the volume is better than their past units. I wonder if it is good enough to dismiss the ead bud modification and just use earplugs. anyone have any insight on this?
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 02:51:16 AM »


I am using a Q2 still and it has a function to shut off the voice activation. I would be surprised if the G9 did not have this as well.

I understand the volume is better than their past units. I wonder if it is good enough to dismiss the ead bud modification and just use earplugs. anyone have any insight on this?


Well, without earplugs, it gets loud enough that it makes my ears all hurty at full volume.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2012, 09:39:40 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2012, 05:20:57 PM »

I gotta admit...I love my Scala rider.   Bigsmile

The volume is plenty loud enough.  I had it no where near the loudest setting.  The volume increasing with speed works great as well.  You can set it at a normal level while stopped.  When I used to listen to ear buds, I couldn't hear $&!+ sitting still b/c I had to overcome the wind noise at higher speeds.

I have an Arai RX-Q helmet.  I installed the speakers into an empty pocket in the cheek pads underneath the lining material.  I cannot even feel the speakers are there.  The front of my helmet is very close to my face & with the wired mic, I can feel the foam padding on the microphone against my lips but its not uncomfortable or annoying.  

I don't use expensive ear buds.  I usually buy $20 Sony or Skull Candy ear buds & they have better sound than the speakers on the G9.  The speakers seem "fine", they're not crappy by any means but not as good as ear buds.

Being able to skip to the next song, mute the music, have a FM radio, make/receive a phone call makes the unit well worth the price.  I can't wait until someone I know buys one so I can try the bike to bike communication.

The voice activation is nice to a point but in some features, I find it easier to just press the buttons.  One reason I bought the unit was so I could pause my music & talk at a light & you can't carry on a conversation with the voice activation turned on.

I also found the buttons easily to press while riding.  The way they're arranged & different size makes them easily to use.

Its not a complaint but it is inherent in the unit.  Where I had to locate mine is right beside the chin strap on the LH side of the helmet.  I use my chin strap to help open my cheek pads to put my helmet on.  With the G9 there, I can't pull on my chinstrap far enough as I use to when putting on my helmet.  Its not really a complaint but I am going to have to "relearn" how to put my helmet on.

I do think the G9 is well worth the price tag.  I'm looking fwd to continue using it.  I commute daily on my mc so I should get a lot of use out of it.  We'll see how it handles the rain, cold weather & heat.   Cool
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2012, 06:26:43 AM »


I gotta admit...I love my Scala rider.   Bigsmile


I also found the buttons easily to press while riding.  The way they're arranged & different size makes them easily to use.

I do think the G9 is well worth the price tag.  I'm looking fwd to continue using it.  


I loved mine until it failed.  Be careful how you push those buttons.  It may not seem worth the price if it breaks a few months after the warranty expires.

YMMV
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2012, 08:34:54 AM »




I loved mine until it failed.  Be careful how you push those buttons.  It may not seem worth the price if it breaks a few months after the warranty expires.

YMMV


I read your thread in the gadgets section.  It sux that yours failed but its worse that Scala had no response what so ever.   Sad

I will say though if mine will last 3 yrs through pretty much daily use, in the rain, wind, sun & general banging around of setting my helmet down, I will still think its worth the price.  That's $100 year for its use.  I go through 3-4 pairs of ear buds a year. For some stupid reason, the right ear bud will quit playing & its always the right one.  At $20-$25 a pair, I'm spending $60-$75 year just on cheap Wal-Mart ear buds.

We'll see...all you can do is give a product a try & roll the dice.  I know I've wasted my share of cash on MC products that I either regretted buying or ending up selling.  
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