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« on: August 24, 2012, 03:08:36 PM »

Just a heads up for those who may be inclined to test their luck on the super slab in Georgia . in ADDITION to the local ticket, you will have to pay an extra $200 to the state if you are going 85 or over on ANY road or highway, or 75 on any 2 lane.
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 03:15:23 PM »

I thought 85 was the speed in Georgia.  Headscratch    I do 70 to 75 and I'm the slow one.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 03:53:17 PM »

Here in BC they have taken the approach of fining, impounding the vehicle, temporary suspecsion of your license and increased insurance premium. For driving in excess of 140 km/h you starv out with:

•seven days for a first offence plus towing and storage costs – at least $210
•30-days for a second offence within a two-year period plus towing and storage costs – approximately $700
•60 days for any subsequent offences within two years plus towing and storage costs – over $1200

Then you lose the vehicle for a minimum of 7 days, as well as suffer a temp driver suspension. Depending on previous ionfractions, you could also lose any safe driver discount you have, as well as see surcharges on the insurance.

Gets very spendy here.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 05:06:45 PM »

So what's the fine for 75 in a school zone? Lol
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 05:17:52 PM »


I thought 85 was the speed in Georgia.  Headscratch    I do 70 to 75 and I'm the slow one.


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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 10:09:35 PM »

Last time I went through Atlanta, I was doing 75-80 and got passed by a Atlanta moto cop doing at least 95, no light, sirens or anything. He got off at the next exit, MLK avenue, no doubt, responding to a horrific scene of carnage.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2012, 07:44:59 AM »


So what's the fine for 75 in a school zone? Lol


Oxblood got the facts a bit wrong, though the penalties are correct.

In British Columbia it's an impound offense to do 40 kph over the speed limit, period.  140 in a 100, 90 in a 50, etc.  That's only 25 MPH over.  And when you consider the urban speed limit is 50, highway speed limits are 80-110 and quite a few of the best twisty roads are 60kph (37 MPH!) you sort of get the idea how draconian the law is.

Also the same penalties for:

Front wheel off the ground
Rear wheel off the ground
Standing on the pegs

They even apply that impound and huge fine for blowing 0.05 BAC.  That really is a single drink for the average sized male.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2012, 07:56:39 AM »




Oxblood got the facts a bit wrong, though the penalties are correct.

In British Columbia it's an impound offense to do 40 kph over the speed limit, period.  140 in a 100, 90 in a 50, etc.  That's only 25 MPH over.  And when you consider the urban speed limit is 50, highway speed limits are 80-110 and quite a few of the best twisty roads are 60kph (37 MPH!) you sort of get the idea how draconian the law is.

Also the same penalties for:

Front wheel off the ground
Rear wheel off the ground
Standing on the pegs

They even apply that impound and huge fine for blowing 0.05 BAC.  That really is a single drink for the average sized male.


Standing on the pegs???  I do that once in a while to streach my legs - so thats illegal now? What a crock....
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2012, 10:06:32 AM »




Oxblood got the facts a bit wrong, though the penalties are correct.

In British Columbia it's an impound offense to do 40 kph over the speed limit, period.  140 in a 100, 90 in a 50, etc.  That's only 25 MPH over.  And when you consider the urban speed limit is 50, highway speed limits are 80-110 and quite a few of the best twisty roads are 60kph (37 MPH!) you sort of get the idea how draconian the law is.

Also the same penalties for:

Front wheel off the ground
Rear wheel off the ground
Standing on the pegs

They even apply that impound and huge fine for blowing 0.05 BAC.  That really is a single drink for the average sized male.


I stand corrected. For some reason 140 stuck in my head. It is 40 km/h over the posted limit. I forgot about the "stunting" portions as well.

Though, the 0.05 alcohol got tossed in court, if my memory serves me correctly. None the less, they are very happy to enforce these new rules to thre letter. If you are coming into BC from Alberta on the Trans Canada, slow down or you will be riding the Greyhound home.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2012, 10:07:45 AM »




Standing on the pegs???  I do that once in a while to streach my legs - so thats illegal now? What a crock....


Yeppers. The wise politicians and bureaucrats here consider it "stunting".
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2012, 10:19:13 PM »

PA has a similar "Exceeding Maximum Speed" law. 30+mph over any posted speed limit gets you automatic 5 points, $300+ fine, and 15 days suspension. Ask me how I know, and I'll tell you about my 1991 Taurus SHO+. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2012, 08:52:33 PM »

Soon you won't be able to take you feet off the pegs at all.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2012, 09:13:17 PM »

We have what we call "hoon" laws; 45 km'h over the posted limit and your licence is suspended and vehicle impounded, you get slapped with a massive fine and accrue demerit points.

Naturally, wheelies and stoppies are classified as hooning too.

It is illegal to take a foot off the pegs if you're moving. If you need to stretch, get off (according to the police). And you can't stand up.

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2012, 09:44:06 PM »


I thought 85 was the speed in Georgia.  Headscratch    I do 70 to 75 and I'm the slow one.

Nope.  On some stretches of I-75 through the city, the speed limit is a really annoying 55.  After conversing with some LEO's, however, I've found that the usual practice is to not stop anyone doing under 80.  Over 80, you're fair game.  
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 10:15:15 PM »




Oxblood got the facts a bit wrong, though the penalties are correct.

In British Columbia it's an impound offense to do 40 kph over the speed limit, period.  140 in a 100, 90 in a 50, etc.  That's only 25 MPH over.  And when you consider the urban speed limit is 50, highway speed limits are 80-110 and quite a few of the best twisty roads are 60kph (37 MPH!) you sort of get the idea how draconian the law is.

Also the same penalties for:

Front wheel off the ground
Rear wheel off the ground
Standing on the pegs

They even apply that impound and huge fine for blowing 0.05 BAC.  That really is a single drink for the average sized male.


The whole Province has become Draconian.    
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2012, 06:45:24 AM »

$200.00 seems cheap.  I don't think I've ever had a ticket that was under $450.00
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2012, 07:51:17 AM »


  I don't think I've ever had a ticket that was under $450.00



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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2012, 07:52:53 AM »

Just a simple fact.  Once you add up all the silly add-on's to the sometimes modest "fine" that's what the total comes to.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2012, 09:38:11 AM »


PA has a similar "Exceeding Maximum Speed" law. 30+mph over any posted speed limit gets you automatic 5 points, $300+ fine, and 15 days suspension. Ask me how I know, and I'll tell you about my 1991 Taurus SHO+. Wink


In DE, 20 mph over the limit will get you 5 points and a possible suspension. 25 mph over will buy you a mandatory one month suspension with an additional month for each 5 mph beyond that.

Fortunately, I've had a few tickets reduced to 19 over.
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2012, 10:20:56 AM »

Is this statewide or just in downtown Atlanta during rush hour?
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2012, 10:53:20 AM »




In DE, 20 mph over the limit will get you 5 points and a possible suspension. 25 mph over will buy you a mandatory one month suspension with an additional month for each 5 mph beyond that.

Fortunately, I've had a few tickets reduced to 19 over.

In Delaware if you get a ticket for excessive over the limit (20+) in another State that reciprocates, you'll be assigned the points and suspended!
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2012, 11:25:13 AM »

Wow, running is not just for fun anymore....
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2012, 02:40:58 PM »


Is this statewide or just in downtown Atlanta during rush hour?


The super speed law is state wide. The extra $200 goes to fund the GA trauma centers. The $200 is over and above what ever other fines you receive. The super speeder law was effective Jan 1, 2010. For the most part you can do 10 over with out issue (excluding school, construction & residential zones). City, County & Campus police cannot ticket you speeding if you are not going 10+ over the limit if they are using radar & laser. State Patrol can but generally leave you alone as the fines are minimal for speeding between 1 - 10 over.

What Wesley stated is correct, if the speed limit is 70 on the interstate, you can run 80 with out an issue. I don't know about running 80 in a 55, that is 25 over the limit, that might cause some interest in you.
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2012, 06:13:53 PM »

I got one of those tickets...on New Years Day. Hope the money went to good use at the trauma centers because it sure put a dent in my pocket. I was doing 85 in the 70 at 6am on a Holiday with zero other traffic on the road. Bummer.
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2012, 05:58:55 PM »


I got one of those tickets...on New Years Day. Hope the money went to good use at the trauma centers because it sure put a dent in my pocket. I was doing 85 in the 70 at 6am on a Holiday with zero other traffic on the road. Bummer.


So you were the "lone speeder" on the road.

WTF can't the local smokies give a break to a rider who threatens no one and is just enjoying a good ride on an empty road. GDIT aren't they human? give the man a break. He is on the road alone WTF

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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2012, 06:57:14 AM »




So you were the "lone speeder" on the road.

WTF can't the local smokies give a break to a rider who threatens no one and is just enjoying a good ride on an empty road. GDIT aren't they human? give the man a break. He is on the road alone WTF




Yeah, I think MOST LEO's here would have given me a 1 MPH break and saved me the $200. But this was an obvious rookie with a hard on for power...that, or he was pissed off that he had to work on New Years Day so early. Either way, somebody was gonna pay!
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2012, 07:16:25 AM »

So GA is like so many other states that have found that speeding can contribute to the coffers and implemented this thing?

Gotcha.
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2012, 07:56:59 AM »

I got pulled over for 87 in a 65.... The Trooper in Wisconsin let me go.  Note this is the only time I have ever been pulled over on a motorcycle and that in its self is amazing as I exceed the ton way.....way to often.
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2012, 08:01:26 AM »

Here is the problem I have with the Super Speeder Law.

•   The law says all fees collected under provisions of SuperSpeeder will be deposited in the state general fund with the intent to fund Georgia’s trauma care hospital system, where approximately sixty-percent of all trauma-care-patients are victims of car-crashes. The Office of Treasury and Fiscal Services is responsible for separately accounting for all of the funds received under the provisions of this new Code section. Now for the first time, SuperSpeeders will help pay for the hospital beds where crash-victims are being treated.

(Cut and pasted from Letter from the Governors office of Highway Safety found here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.safespeedsgeorgia.org%2Fdocs%2Fsuperspeederfaq.doc&ei=-Sw-UKzVJabp0gH4hYGwDQ&usg=AFQjCNF04Z460iftU9xiSU2nWRsys_UNag&sig2=49OdtBEIN9hGaJzQITWvkg

They are using the money in to make up for the States budget short falls.
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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2012, 08:47:08 AM »

Atlanta's problem is not the inability to go over 85. Atlanta's problem is that the HOV lane or left-most passing lanes are always full of rubes doing a steady 64 mph.  Twofinger

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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2012, 10:45:14 AM »


Atlanta's problem is not the inability to go over 85. Atlanta's problem is that the HOV lane or left-most passing lanes are always full of rubes doing a steady 64 mph.  Twofinger

I swear one of these days I'm going to shoot some Gopro video of my commute on the Downtown Connector at rush hour.  EEK!


I know, it is ridiculous. I ride I-20 Westbound home every night and make better time in the slow lane. Nobody here understands the whole slower traffic to the right thing. The HOV lanes are the worst though!
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2012, 05:32:36 PM »

If you think BC is tough try Ontario.  50km (about 30mph) over the limit gets you a minimum $2,000 fine (max is $10,000) + 7 day license suspension + 7 day vehicle seizure.

This also means your insurance company will likely cancel your policies for all your vehicles, not just your bike and force you to go to a high risk underwriter.  For the fine and higher insurance premiuns total cost over 5 years will somewhere between $15,000 and $25,000.
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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2012, 09:18:33 PM »


Soon you won't be able to take you feet off the pegs at all.


That has happened here already. The new regs state you cannot remove your feet from the pegs.
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The whole Province has become Draconian.    


That is an understatement.
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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2012, 09:25:36 PM »


I got one of those tickets...on New Years Day. Hope the money went to good use at the trauma centers because it sure put a dent in my pocket. I was doing 85 in the 70 at 6am on a Holiday with zero other traffic on the road. Bummer.


It probably paid for one bullet removal from a fine young man who was "turning his life around".
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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2012, 11:27:14 AM »

Meanwhile, in TX, they're moving the max speed limit to 85...
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« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2012, 10:23:24 AM »


Meanwhile, in TX, they're moving the max speed limit to 85...


Good deal, then it'll only take a day and a quarter to get through TX. Bigsmile
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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2012, 05:50:23 AM »


Meanwhile, in TX, they're moving the max speed limit to 85...


Interesting! Too bad they don't have Roads like Ark.!
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